Why Would “Terrorists” Want To Decapitate Anti-US Leadership In Pakistan?

Hotel bombing doesn’t make sense unless “Al-Qaeda” is working to advance Neo-Con political agenda

Paul Joseph Watson

Monday, September 22, 2008

Why would “Al-Qaeda,” a group that is supposedly the prime target of the U.S. initiated war on terror, commit a terrorist attack against a country that has recently changed its government and all but renounced its role as a U.S. ally in the war on terror?

The mass media has already blamed the Marriott Hotel bombing, which killed at least 53 people, on “Al-Qaeda,” a routine reflex action despite the lack of any real investigation and no claim of responsibility.

On Saturday morning, Newly elected Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari told his parliament, “We will not tolerate the violation of our sovereignty and territorial integrity by any power in the name of combating terrorism.”

Hours later and hey presto! “Al-Qaeda” provides the perfect pretext for the U.S. to violate Pakistan’s territorial integrity in the name of….you guessed it….combating terrorism!

More telling than that - had the leadership of Pakistan not cancelled their plans to dine at the Marriott Hotel at the last minute, the entire command structure of the whole country would have been decapitated.

“Pakistan’s top leaders were to dine at the Marriott hotel that was devastated by a truck bombing over the weekend, but changed the venue at the last minute, a senior government official said Monday,” reports the Associated Press today.

“Perhaps the terrorists knew that the Marriott was the venue of the dinner for all the leadership where the president, prime minister, speaker and all entire leadership would be present,” Interior Ministry chief Rehman Malik told reporters. “At the eleventh hour, the president and prime minister decided that the venue would be the prime minister’s house. It saved the entire leadership.”

Indeed, it seemed the “terrorists” did know that their prime objective was to completely wipe out the most influential players in a government that has seemingly vowed to break away from the years of Pervez Musharraf-mandated lapdog subservience to U.S. imperial whims.

Pakistani troops fire on intruding U.S. helicopters

Reuters
Monday, Sept 22, 2008

Pakistani troops fired on two U.S. helicopters that intruded into Pakistani territory on Sunday night, forcing them to turn back to Afghanistan, a senior Pakistani security official said on Monday.

The helicopters violated the border in the area of Lowara Mandi, 80 km west of Miranshah, the main town in the North Waziristan tribal region, at around 9:00 p.m. on Sunday, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.

There was no official confirmation.

“We don’t have any information on border violation by the American helicopters,” Major Murad Khan, a military spokesman, said.

Relations between the two allies became frayed earlier this month after U.S. commandos raided a border village in South Waziristan and killed 20 people, including women and children, on September 3. Pakistanis were outraged by the incursion and the six-month-old civilian government issued a diplomatic protest.

It was the first overt incursion by U.S. ground troops into Pakistani territory, though the U.S. military has conducted numerous missile strikes against al Qaeda and Taliban targets in Pakistan’s tribal lands.

Pakistani troops fired on two U.S. helicopters that crossed the border at the same village, Angor Adda, a week ago, again forcing them to turn back, according to residents and security officers, though both Pakistani and U.S. officials issued denials.

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari is due to meet President George W. Bush on Tuesday in the United States.

Answer --- Because we have been very, very successful (More sucessful than has been admitted) in closing off Al Qaeda's stratigic and tactical options.

They desperatly need a new base from which to operate that will give them a 'cushion' between US forces and their leadership. Destablizing the Pakistani government would have given them that cushion. This is IMO actually the second attempt by Al Qaeda to destablize Pakistan's government.

Why does this help them, Pakistan wasn't going after Al CIAda. Pakistan has been far more concerned with our in and out invasion of their soveriegn territory.

This doesn't help Al CIAda at all IMO, it helps the American empire to justify more invasion.

The Questionable Timing of the Pakistan Blast

Monday, Sept 22, 2008

(I wonder how long it takes to build a truck bomb.)

Let me see if I got this straight now.

Over the past 7 years we have dumped billions and billions of dollars into Pakistan to help with the Global War on Terror™. Yet, we know that former President Musharraf spent much of that money beefing up his military presence on the border of India, while another large part of that money, just went missing. Some of that money was traced to election fraud attempts. All of this, and the accepted wisdom is that the Taliban and bin Laden, are in Pakistan (of course I think he is dead, but that is beside the point).

When Musharraf lost the election, he shut down the democracy in Pakistan and arrested judges and opposition party leaders. Eventually, Pakistan shamed us by actually impeaching their president for corruption, while ours gets off Scott-Free thanks to Nancy Pelosi and a complicit congress.

Along comes a new President, President Asif Zardari, one that isn’t in the pocket of BushCo and low and behold, we start ramping up the rhetoric about needing to attack inside Pakistan “when ever we feel like it“.

They even get the leading “progressive” man-god, Obama, to spin the same bullsh!t story.

Now, after several weeks of international bad press because of drone planes being piloted by 19 year olds with joy-sticks in California, blowing up families in Pakistan willy-nilly, after all that, the “terrorists” in Pakistan decide to blow up a second rate hotel there, killing civilians, and making them the bad guys once again? How’s that for the worst timing ever, huh? Well, the worst timing for them and the best possible timing for those troubled U.S. Military PR guys and all the politicians who had been saying just a month ago we need to step up military action in Pakistan.

Let’s face it, the Global War on Terror™ is the biggest thing since sliced bread for making serious cash, removing those troubling restrictions, and undermining the constitution at every turn.

This morning the spin is that the “terrorist” organizations did this too send a message that they want the government of Pakistan to quit cooperating with the U.S.War on Terror™. Nevermind that just a few days ago, President Zardari came out saying that Pakistan’s sovereignty was more important than America’s War on Terror™.

That’s right. Just one week ago, Pakistan was threatening to pull out of Bush’s War on Terror and today they have more reason than ever to stay put.

I wonder how long it takes to build a truck bomb.

The end result of this attack is to give the U.S. Army and the American politicians all the reason in the world that they would need to continue attacking Pakistan’s population, and taking the international pressure off the Americans to stop bombing their country.

This is what we are supposed to believe?

We are supposed to believe that these “terrorists”, when they finally have the sympathy of the world and the eyes of the world are watching Pakistan’s plight very closely, not to mention the fact that Pakistan’s president just announced his intentions to pull out of the Global War on Terror™, they all of a sudden decide to blow up a hotel, for no apparent reason, giving Pakistan every reason to remain an alley in the war? Are you kidding?

If you aren’t familiar with the CIA’s history of false-flag operations in the rest of the world, now might be a good time to Google it.

This has the markings of that type of operation written all over it.

You have a newly elected regime that isn’t as inclined to hand over control of their country to the U.S. when all of a sudden, out of now-where, the “leftist” terrorist start bombing the people of the country in order to create chaos and fear in the population. This is either blamed on the President or the regime that U.S. companies don’t like, or they start to foster the idea that the new anti-American leadership can’t provide the protection the people need. And thus, the CIA’s actions change the course of that country by covert, terrorist means.

It’s on record; it’s been done many times by the CIA. Not just in the Middle East, but also, Central America, South American, Italy, Cuba, and many others.

So, the recent attack in Pakistan takes place just in time to salvage BushCo’s all important Global War on Terror™. I mean, how do you think it would look if the U.S.’s main ally were to just pack up and take off? Some terrorist cell leader somewhere is getting called on the carpet for this one. Or, maybe not. You decide.

They need a new base. We have limited them. (you know the 800 lb gorrilla with a bad tooth).

and I have a deep disrespect with anyone that continually hints at bs with inserted US abrevations attached to this vile organization. I know better. I was a Peacetime soldier (you might know what that means). I saw things that lead up to all this. I know better.

So, in your experience, Bin Laden wasn't/isn't a CIA asset and we didn't intensely fund his organization when it was called the Afghan rebels in their fight against the Soviets?

It's a demonstratebly provable fact that several of the 9/11 hijackers had U.S. intelligence credentials and the FBI was told to back off from investigating them.


I'm going to have to disagree with you, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's Al CIAda.

Unless it can be proven that everything I've learned over who knows how long is absolutely false, then I'm going to have to stick with the position that our Government has a hand in alot of this.

Can you tell me that the CIA doesn't have a history of doing things like this?

We funded them at that time.

So what, they were fighting our enemy at that time.

Many things change.

This is a different time.

The one thing that is a constant in world affairs is change.

one can be flexible or one can be eliminated.

The competition is fierce.

There is no evidence that we ever stopped.

It seems like coincidence after coincidence, where NeoCon programs come into threat and TA DA, terrorist event in the target area.

I don't believe in coincidence, especially knowing that our nation has a deep history with false flag events and other atrocities.

I was right in a different post...

I do know you. I shall not again post on this subject...

thank you sir for your discourse.

Well that certainly is your choice to make, but it doesn't do anything, but make me think that there in fact isn't anything out there but proof that we are running the Mujahadeen and other noted terror groups, that we are using the Al Qaeda monster to push NeoCon globalist agendas.


I appreciate what you did have to say, wish you could have proven me wrong, sure would have made me feel better about our nation, as far as having criminal elements running this country is concerned.

More and more I find myself in agreement with Warmachine.

The question you have to ask yourself is:

Is that a good thing or a HOLY CRAP kind of thing?

those dead fundamentalist islamacists and their mothers would disagree with you about their fervor in dying for the CIA and American interests, here and abroad.

Are they daft??????

misguided and emotionally disrtraught, yes?

but in love with AMerica First? not on their lives.


pun intended.

What kind of moron do you have to be to strap a bomb on yourself and detonate it in the first place. Puh-leeze.

Between brainwashing and greed, it wouldn't be that hard to do, nevermind the fact that groups like that are always compartmentalized, not unlike any other military style group.

You're only going to be told what you need to know to get your part of the job done.

that is not what Jesus meant when he said, "let the dead bury the dead, follow me."

your implications are why the conservative Christians find no voice at all on the left side of the aisle and have a small voice on the right side of the aisle at best.

Bush usurps cover for his darkness claiming status among us, but he hasn't sold all he had to follow Jesus in his heart, has he?

No wonder christians get blamed for the ills of the world.

CONVERT OR DIE is the mantra.


nope.

islamists don't serve that principle with the same understanding.

They have adopted it, though, and will fight to the death to achieve "convert or die" for their own brand of persuasion.


admit it.

the toys in the attic are all broken, but we sentimentally hang on to them.

The toys are of no use, but recycling them is out of the question.


It's all bullsh!t parading around as KOOL AID.

It's funny cuz it's true! LOL!

I would hate to be responsible for inadvertantly misleading someone, which is why I always push folks to not take my word for it, go do your own research.

But hey, if I can't get anyone to present proof that I'm wrong, what does that leave for me to do?

My implications has nothing to do with the problems of the Christian right, who neglects to remember Papal Rome in their push to make everyone live by their unique set of morals, values and rules.

The Christian right has no one to blame but themselves.
My implications are built upon the facts that this government builds up these kinds of people, tyrants, terrorists and dictators, then expects the American soldier to dive in head first when those propped up bad guys don't tow the line, but it's even worse to me, to see that it's extremely possible that these bad guys we're supposed to be protecting the world from might just be taking orders from someone in Washington.

Bush and now McCain told the religious right everything they've ever wanted to hear and unlike most free thinkers, they've followed their Judas Goats into the ballot box and right to the slaughter house.

I agree, the toys in the attic are broken, but those who apply themselves to the false left/right are too damn busy pointing fingers at each other, to notice that it's those that they support that have broken the toys... or in our case, sticking us with the broken toys while they've ran off with the Toy R Us gift cards.

I was not going to reply to this any further but I do need to dispell something.

There have been an increasing number of terrorists attacks in recent days aimed at Pakistani citizens. These attacks have occured all over Pakistan in an apparent attempt to scare the Pakistani people into backing completely away from any cooperation with the US.

For some reason the US news has not reported this information. (Perhaps because Obama is not any way as strong as McCain on internationl issues and it would send his poll numbers down).
The recent bombing at the Marriot was reported by the World News Machine only because it was to large to keep off the air.

Those of you that subscribe to paranoid delusions of grand schemes have the right to voice your opinions of course. (Some of the red in our flage is my contribution to that right.)

My tactical assesment of that situation is right on the money (given what limited information I do have).

Further Al-Queada or the Taliban (which ever one it was) is shooting their own cause by doing this.

The Pakistani people are much more like us than you know (unless you know one personally) They do not fear such things. We did not react to 9/11 with fear as was the intention of the terrorists. Rather we reacted with an overwhelming anger and resolve (at least for a little while we were one nation). That will be the Pakistani reaction. Once they have removed the terrorists they will go right back (as we have) to argueing one with the other.