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Edited by
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http://www.sacred-destinations.com/italy/images/milan/last-supper/resized/last-supper-detail-john-wc-pd.jpg
There is that ambiguous character isolated in the "Last Supper" painting. If that isnt a woman, then it's definitely a pretty sexually ambiguous man. Im guessing Mary Magdelyn because it looks just like her from other paintings she is depicted in. |
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Edited by
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Exactly the same................you aren't going to change my mind. I know what unconditional love is.............and what it is not. What is the big deal here. All you have to do(to avoid hell) is tell God your sorry for your sins and ask for forgivness through is sons passion for US! and mean it and genuenly and freely choose to love him. WoW...is that to much to ask??? Which god, am I supposed to ask? Your god, his god? her god? Their god? Which god? 
The one true God. The one who wants the best for you and all of your brothers and sisters. The God of love and forgiveness. The God of righteous anger and vengeance. The God who set everything in motion and created every atom that exist. I AM THAT I AM. The awesome dude who gave us everything. Not the one that wants you to hate and divide and debase yourself and others. Not the one who loves greed and anger and theft and lies. God is a male figure …so I don’t want to hear any crap from the fema –nazi’s party here. Male figure: as in a Manly point of view of things. You are the one who is thinking in a primitive way. Yeah we all know about the 2000 year old singular male deity concept and how reliable that is.....its a story invented by men, primarily about men, in order to control men. Dont delude yourself. Masculine Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This 1. pertaining to or characteristic of a man or men: masculine attire. 2. having qualities traditionally ascribed to men, as strength and boldness. 3. Grammar. noting or pertaining to the gender of Latin, Greek, German, French, Spanish, Hebrew, etc., which has among its members most nouns referring to males, as well as other nouns, as Spanish dedo, “finger,” German Bleistift, “pencil.” 4. (of a woman) mannish. –noun Grammar. 5. the masculine gender. 6. a noun or other element in or marking that gender. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 1300–50; ME masculin < L masculīnus, equiv. to mascul(us) male (mās male + -culus -cule1) + -īnus -ine1] —Related forms mas·cu·line·ly, adverb mas·cu·lin·i·ty, mas·cu·line·ness, noun |
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I dont understand. Your rebuttal argument is the definition of masculine? Can you explain?
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"""""............having qualities traditionally ascribed to men, as strength and boldness. """"
Strength and boldness? Is that it? That's how one MUST define a MALE god? Holy crap!!! Roll over !!!! I have more strength in my big toe and boldness of heart, faith and character than a whole busload of gods.... Bugga and all this time I thought I was a woman. 
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wow this thread is still kickin lol
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So let me just get this straight. I have for the first time in my life been dubbed a "Feminatzi" simply because I do not adhere or follow the Christian faith and I studied cultural and physical anthropology in college? Im a man-hating.militant woman solely because I have done a little bit of research on the matter and have discovered for myself that Pagan religions pre-dated Christianity for several thousand years? As far back as the Neolithic? Okay.... You are CONFUSED and/or intently distorting and twisting my words. You must have a DNC play book at home. Haaaaaa haaaaaa. |
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and if you have ever read the bible before, you would know that God does in fact send you there. Duet 7:10 Absolutely. If an all-powerful God allows anyone to go to hell then he is sending them there. Period. Some people even say that God weeps when someone goes to hell. But that's absurd. Why would God be weeping? If the person deserves to go to hell there's nothing to weep about. If they don't deserve to go to hell then something's drastically wrong with the system. It's as simple as that. The idea that a God would allow any decent person to go to hell just because they didn't appease the arrogant Christians is the most asburd thing I can imagine. It's much more likely that the arrogant Christians would be the ones are their way to hell. Even Jesus said that there will be many who claim to know him but he will not acknowledge them. People think they can 'save' themselves just by claiming to be a born again Christian. But they don't have the power to do that. Who are they to tell Jesus who he will or will not 'save'? They are seriously kidding themselves when they start judging. In fact, Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others. So if Jesus tells the truth, then the Christians are in some deep sh't. If your child became a prostitute or a murderer or a child molester etc. You would despise their actions but would still love the child that you created. The loss of what might have been or became of your child if they had only made the right discussions would be the thing that would break your heart and make you weep. Not to mention God knows what awaits us in hell...we only have an idea. If my child became a prostitute I would see it as her choice. I would wonder if it were due to a lack of money and out of necessity. I would wonder if she simply looked at it as a job.........I would not judge her, nor would I not be in her life anymore because she chose such a thing. If one or both of my children became child molesters, I would want to find them help as I believe it to be a psychological disorder, not necessarily a simple matter of choosing evil over good, but something that is deep seated that causes them to get sexually excited at the thought of another child. I would not judge them, or hate them, of kick them out of my life..........I would be concerned for them and try to keep them away from children. IF they became murderers I would wonder why?? What happened that made them feel that killing another was their only way out of something. I would not judge them for it, and would be by their side until I no longer could be. People who make these kinds of choices do so for reasons far beyond a desire to sin. What is sin?? Who decides what sin is, and if God created everything, he created sin then, no?? If he created sin, then he is capable of being in the presence of sin. As a matter of fact, one who creates can not create something that they do not identify with. So then, if you follow that logic, GOD KNOWS AND HAS SIN! Sin/Evil is the opposite of God. The Ying and Yang if you will. The balance. I believe God has everything in balance. God is Balance and Balance is God. Just as God is Love. Evil is hate Love is God. Is God the balance or is he the good?? You can't both be the balance and the good. And you are wrong, the opposite of evil............is TRUTH! Actually - the "absence" of truth is evil. It is a matter of opposites - but quantity and quality. |
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wow this thread is still kickin lol Yeah but I am outta here... it's 8.20 am Sunday and I got better things to do than play with a bloke stuck in a reallly deeeeeeeeep hole.. 
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Here is what I have to say to that!
1. Of or relating to women or girls. See synonyms at female. 2. Characterized by or possessing qualities generally attributed to a woman. 3. Effeminate; womanish. 4. Grammar. Designating or belonging to the gender of words or grammatical forms that refer chiefly to females or to things classified as female. n. Grammar. 1. The feminine gender. 2. A word or form belonging to the feminine gender. I dont get it. Im sorry... 
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ok take care
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Edited by
Plainome
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Sat 09/13/08 03:26 PM
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Exactly the same................you aren't going to change my mind. I know what unconditional love is.............and what it is not. We have no clue what unconditional love is. Dont lie to yourself. Excuse me?!? You may not know or understand, but to claim that No one does, is to claim to know all..........and you don't. I have experienced it more times than I can count on one hand. It is probably the only truth in a world full of lies............. P.S. Everyone "lies" to themselves until they are capable of seeing the truth........but being aware of that fact is the first step.........maybe instead of judging whether I do, you should take a hard look at yourself. There are always conditions to love...their is no unconditional love here. No there isn't............or it isn't love. Anything that has conditions and is described as "love" is something else. The only true love that exists is a love that lets go and allows freedom. To love a stranger that you know nothing about........you must see them for what they truly are, I suppose if you consider that a "condition" but it is more of a mind condition than a condition on the other person. As I said, just because you have no idea as to what it is, doesn't mean it does not exist. AND I find it funny that one who claims to know Jesus, and the ONE TRUE GOD, doesn't know what true unconditional love is........but yet claims that is what his God offers to us.........Oh wait, I suppose it isn't unconditional, so then God is no different than humans.........so why can't we just be the gods?? Man does not know unconditional love...a warm and fuzzy for a stranger is not unconditional love. Yet you claim to know that God is love...........how do you know this? You are an expert on love now?? It isn't a warm and fuzzy feeling. Man is what gives definition to feelings........ How do you know this, under what authority?? Your own?? It is one thing to post your opinion, quite another to flat out call me a liar and tell me that my experiences are false..... The fact that you haven't experienced it tells me that you truly know nothing of "God" even the one you define, as being love and forgiveness. |
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So let me just get this straight. I have for the first time in my life been dubbed a "Feminatzi" simply because I do not adhere or follow the Christian faith and I studied cultural and physical anthropology in college? Im a man-hating.militant woman solely because I have done a little bit of research on the matter and have discovered for myself that Pagan religions pre-dated Christianity for several thousand years? As far back as the Neolithic? Okay.... You are CONFUSED and/or intently distorting and twisting my words. You must have a DNC play book at home. Haaaaaa haaaaaa. Well you called me a Feminatzi and that was my response. If that is too confusing for you, well then Im out of here. This thread is basically a lot of back and forth and no one is really listening. Im moving on. |
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Edited by
hinkypoepoe
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The one true God. The one who wants the best for you and all of your brothers and sisters. The God of love and forgiveness. The God of righteous anger and vengeance. The God who set everything in motion and created every atom that exist. I AM THAT I AM. The awesome dude who gave us everything. Not the one that wants you to hate and divide and debase yourself and others. Not the one who loves greed and anger and theft and lies. God is a male figure …so I don’t want to hear any crap from the fema –nazi’s party here. So your god, the one full of love peace and brown rice? The forgiving gentle god? So what happened to you? Your post is hilarious..the god of luuuuurve, then the hateful human male penism anti femi nazi hating agenda... Bring it on!!! I just so love hipocrisy. 1. I don’t hate anyone. 2. Feminism was created to help women with equal rights, pay etc. I totally agree with that. 3. Femanists have morphed in to a special man hater group over time. Anything male seems to be a target for them and even some Females such as Sarah Palin. It,like many other causes, has been hijacked by special militant interest groups that do HATE males.Especially white straight males.Everyone needs a fall guy I guess. 4. I already know how they operate and how some members are anti-god. I would rather not deal with them on this thread. That’s all. I know now I’m excluding people right…I’m so Bad. I’m going to spank myself now…not. Bah hahahahah!!!!! Having trouble getting a date? I wonder why............. Not all women are anti-male. As a matter of fact a lot of women have been speaking out against N.O.W. lately because they have not backed Sarah Palin. National organization of women - YOU MEAN THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR MILITANT LIBERAL LEZBEIAN WOMEN ...RIGHT HAAAA HAAAA HAAAA. |
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and if you have ever read the bible before, you would know that God does in fact send you there. Duet 7:10 Absolutely. If an all-powerful God allows anyone to go to hell then he is sending them there. Period. Some people even say that God weeps when someone goes to hell. But that's absurd. Why would God be weeping? If the person deserves to go to hell there's nothing to weep about. If they don't deserve to go to hell then something's drastically wrong with the system. It's as simple as that. The idea that a God would allow any decent person to go to hell just because they didn't appease the arrogant Christians is the most asburd thing I can imagine. It's much more likely that the arrogant Christians would be the ones are their way to hell. Even Jesus said that there will be many who claim to know him but he will not acknowledge them. People think they can 'save' themselves just by claiming to be a born again Christian. But they don't have the power to do that. Who are they to tell Jesus who he will or will not 'save'? They are seriously kidding themselves when they start judging. In fact, Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others. So if Jesus tells the truth, then the Christians are in some deep sh't. If your child became a prostitute or a murderer or a child molester etc. You would despise their actions but would still love the child that you created. The loss of what might have been or became of your child if they had only made the right discussions would be the thing that would break your heart and make you weep. Not to mention God knows what awaits us in hell...we only have an idea. If my child became a prostitute I would see it as her choice. I would wonder if it were due to a lack of money and out of necessity. I would wonder if she simply looked at it as a job.........I would not judge her, nor would I not be in her life anymore because she chose such a thing. If one or both of my children became child molesters, I would want to find them help as I believe it to be a psychological disorder, not necessarily a simple matter of choosing evil over good, but something that is deep seated that causes them to get sexually excited at the thought of another child. I would not judge them, or hate them, of kick them out of my life..........I would be concerned for them and try to keep them away from children. IF they became murderers I would wonder why?? What happened that made them feel that killing another was their only way out of something. I would not judge them for it, and would be by their side until I no longer could be. People who make these kinds of choices do so for reasons far beyond a desire to sin. What is sin?? Who decides what sin is, and if God created everything, he created sin then, no?? If he created sin, then he is capable of being in the presence of sin. As a matter of fact, one who creates can not create something that they do not identify with. So then, if you follow that logic, GOD KNOWS AND HAS SIN! Sin/Evil is the opposite of God. The Ying and Yang if you will. The balance. I believe God has everything in balance. God is Balance and Balance is God. Just as God is Love. Evil is hate Love is God. Is God the balance or is he the good?? You can't both be the balance and the good. And you are wrong, the opposite of evil............is TRUTH! Actually - the "absence" of truth is evil. It is a matter of opposites - but quantity and quality. ?? ur point was? |
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I'm out too.........later all.
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The one true God. The one who wants the best for you and all of your brothers and sisters. The God of love and forgiveness. The God of righteous anger and vengeance. The God who set everything in motion and created every atom that exist. I AM THAT I AM. The awesome dude who gave us everything. Not the one that wants you to hate and divide and debase yourself and others. Not the one who loves greed and anger and theft and lies. God is a male figure …so I don’t want to hear any crap from the fema –nazi’s party here. So your god, the one full of love peace and brown rice? The forgiving gentle god? So what happened to you? Your post is hilarious..the god of luuuuurve, then the hateful human male penism anti femi nazi hating agenda... Bring it on!!! I just so love hipocrisy. I second that..... I wonder if Jesus preached to those tax collectors and prostitutes he used to have dinner with........ He told them to repent. I dont think so. Its common knowledge that he and Mary Magdelyn were VERY close. Nudge nudge, wink wink. Not to mention that in that famous "Last Supper" painting its her arguably siting at the table. Look it up right now online if you dont believe me. Its like a soft, effeminate looking, red haired person at the table. If that is Mary at the table at the "Last Supper" than where is the Apostle John? Ummm... Yeah - slight problem with that theory. I'm surprised anyone even bothers to bring it up. Dan Brown's response to that question was and his claim in the DaVinci Code "Well - my book is just fiction". |
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I dont understand. Your rebuttal argument is the definition of masculine? Can you explain? God is Masculine. |
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The one true God. The one who wants the best for you and all of your brothers and sisters. The God of love and forgiveness. The God of righteous anger and vengeance. The God who set everything in motion and created every atom that exist. I AM THAT I AM. The awesome dude who gave us everything. Not the one that wants you to hate and divide and debase yourself and others. Not the one who loves greed and anger and theft and lies. God is a male figure …so I don’t want to hear any crap from the fema –nazi’s party here. So your god, the one full of love peace and brown rice? The forgiving gentle god? So what happened to you? Your post is hilarious..the god of luuuuurve, then the hateful human male penism anti femi nazi hating agenda... Bring it on!!! I just so love hipocrisy. 1. I don’t hate anyone. 2. Feminism was created to help women with equal rights, pay etc. I totally agree with that. 3. Femanists have morphed in to a special man hater group over time. Anything male seems to be a target for them and even some Females such as Sarah Palin. It,like many other causes, has been hijacked by special militant interest groups that do HATE males.Especially white straight males.Everyone needs a fall guy I guess. 4. I already know how they operate and how some members are anti-god. I would rather not deal with them on this thread. That’s all. I know now I’m excluding people right…I’m so Bad. I’m going to spank myself now…not. Bah hahahahah!!!!! Having trouble getting a date? I wonder why............. Not all women are anti-male. As a matter of fact a lot of women have been speaking out against N.O.W. lately because they have not backed Sarah Palin. National organization of women - YOU MEAN THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR MILITANT LIBERAL LEZBEIAN WOMEN ...RIGHT HAAAA HAAAA HAAAA. I am not "anti-male" Im not sure why you have reached that conclusion. Its certainly unwarranted. Do you mean because Im educated and I take care of myself and dont rely on a man? Because I might date two men at a time if I feel like it? Now Im a horrible, militant succubus? Please... |
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and if you have ever read the bible before, you would know that God does in fact send you there. Duet 7:10 Absolutely. If an all-powerful God allows anyone to go to hell then he is sending them there. Period. Some people even say that God weeps when someone goes to hell. But that's absurd. Why would God be weeping? If the person deserves to go to hell there's nothing to weep about. If they don't deserve to go to hell then something's drastically wrong with the system. It's as simple as that. The idea that a God would allow any decent person to go to hell just because they didn't appease the arrogant Christians is the most asburd thing I can imagine. It's much more likely that the arrogant Christians would be the ones are their way to hell. Even Jesus said that there will be many who claim to know him but he will not acknowledge them. People think they can 'save' themselves just by claiming to be a born again Christian. But they don't have the power to do that. Who are they to tell Jesus who he will or will not 'save'? They are seriously kidding themselves when they start judging. In fact, Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others. So if Jesus tells the truth, then the Christians are in some deep sh't. If your child became a prostitute or a murderer or a child molester etc. You would despise their actions but would still love the child that you created. The loss of what might have been or became of your child if they had only made the right discussions would be the thing that would break your heart and make you weep. Not to mention God knows what awaits us in hell...we only have an idea. If my child became a prostitute I would see it as her choice. I would wonder if it were due to a lack of money and out of necessity. I would wonder if she simply looked at it as a job.........I would not judge her, nor would I not be in her life anymore because she chose such a thing. If one or both of my children became child molesters, I would want to find them help as I believe it to be a psychological disorder, not necessarily a simple matter of choosing evil over good, but something that is deep seated that causes them to get sexually excited at the thought of another child. I would not judge them, or hate them, of kick them out of my life..........I would be concerned for them and try to keep them away from children. IF they became murderers I would wonder why?? What happened that made them feel that killing another was their only way out of something. I would not judge them for it, and would be by their side until I no longer could be. People who make these kinds of choices do so for reasons far beyond a desire to sin. What is sin?? Who decides what sin is, and if God created everything, he created sin then, no?? If he created sin, then he is capable of being in the presence of sin. As a matter of fact, one who creates can not create something that they do not identify with. So then, if you follow that logic, GOD KNOWS AND HAS SIN! Sin/Evil is the opposite of God. The Ying and Yang if you will. The balance. I believe God has everything in balance. God is Balance and Balance is God. Just as God is Love. Evil is hate Love is God. Is God the balance or is he the good?? You can't both be the balance and the good. And you are wrong, the opposite of evil............is TRUTH! Actually - the "absence" of truth is evil. It is a matter of opposites - but quantity and quality. ?? ur point was? That you are speaking in terms of quantity. That these concepts are opposites. A ci has opposites - heads and tails. Evil and Truth are not opposites. Black and white are not opposites. Hot and Cold - etc. One is defined as the lack of the other. |
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The one true God. The one who wants the best for you and all of your brothers and sisters. The God of love and forgiveness. The God of righteous anger and vengeance. The God who set everything in motion and created every atom that exist. I AM THAT I AM. The awesome dude who gave us everything. Not the one that wants you to hate and divide and debase yourself and others. Not the one who loves greed and anger and theft and lies. God is a male figure …so I don’t want to hear any crap from the fema –nazi’s party here. So your god, the one full of love peace and brown rice? The forgiving gentle god? So what happened to you? Your post is hilarious..the god of luuuuurve, then the hateful human male penism anti femi nazi hating agenda... Bring it on!!! I just so love hipocrisy. 1. I don’t hate anyone. 2. Feminism was created to help women with equal rights, pay etc. I totally agree with that. 3. Femanists have morphed in to a special man hater group over time. Anything male seems to be a target for them and even some Females such as Sarah Palin. It,like many other causes, has been hijacked by special militant interest groups that do HATE males.Especially white straight males.Everyone needs a fall guy I guess. 4. I already know how they operate and how some members are anti-god. I would rather not deal with them on this thread. That’s all. I know now I’m excluding people right…I’m so Bad. I’m going to spank myself now…not. Bah hahahahah!!!!! Having trouble getting a date? I wonder why............. Not all women are anti-male. As a matter of fact a lot of women have been speaking out against N.O.W. lately because they have not backed Sarah Palin. National organization of women - YOU MEAN THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR MILITANT LIBERAL LEZBEIAN WOMEN ...RIGHT HAAAA HAAAA HAAAA.  Sounds like you have a lot of anger issues against women Theres counseling for that
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