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Being a successful (manager) president is about leadership. Like him or not, Ronald Reagan is considered a great president by many because he inspired people (Reagan Revolution) to overachieve. JFK did the same in his short tenure, an example being his inspirational speech to land a man on the moon in a decade. FDR led a nation out of a depression and through a World War. These presidents cannot write or pass legislation; they can only provide the leadership to rally the people and influence it. To me, Barack Obama is a once in a generation inspirational leader, while John McCain is not. So, we should vote someone into office because they give us that "warm and fuzzy" feeling? He only gives me the "governments emptying my pockets" feeling Chaz, this administration is recklessly spending on a war without income (taxes) to pay for it. Is that responsible? Your pockets may be fuller now, but your children and grandchildren will pay for our irresponsibility. We've got to balance our budget AND pay down the near $10T debt. That is going to be incredibly difficult and will take inspired leadership. And increasing taxes to pay for socialized health care isn't gonna solve that problem. Having less social programs while keeping taxes the same would. I believe healthcare should be a right, not a privilege of only those who can afford it. The current system ends up costing billions more than it should because some can only access Emergency Rooms (very costly) for basic medical needs when less costly preventive measures could have avoided it. Also, the insurance industry is making billions in profits and as such are incented to deny treatment in many cases. Not to say nat'l healthcare can be everything to everyone. There are limits such as in the Nataline Sarkisyan case. That poor woman was doomed and there wasn't much sense spending more to "possibly" keep her alive for 6 more months. The Healthcare issue will be brutal and heart wrenching, but it has to be addressed. We can't afford the status quo. |
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Being a successful (manager) president is about leadership. Like him or not, Ronald Reagan is considered a great president by many because he inspired people (Reagan Revolution) to overachieve. JFK did the same in his short tenure, an example being his inspirational speech to land a man on the moon in a decade. FDR led a nation out of a depression and through a World War. These presidents cannot write or pass legislation; they can only provide the leadership to rally the people and influence it. To me, Barack Obama is a once in a generation inspirational leader, while John McCain is not. So, we should vote someone into office because they give us that "warm and fuzzy" feeling? He only gives me the "governments emptying my pockets" feeling Chaz, this administration is recklessly spending on a war without income (taxes) to pay for it. Is that responsible? Your pockets may be fuller now, but your children and grandchildren will pay for our irresponsibility. We've got to balance our budget AND pay down the near $10T debt. That is going to be incredibly difficult and will take inspired leadership. So now Obama's proposed income tax = inspired leadership? No, I'd call that courage. Do you make over $250K? Then don't worry about it. |
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So, what's the consensus? Obama or Palin?
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McCain was clearly PANDERING to get women's votes. Why can't everyone see that? Of course he is, it's his job! He met Sarah Palin one time. And then he makes his decision. Is that the way he will make all his decisions? McCain needs to spend time on JSH. Everybody here knows, you can't just look at the pictures. You have to read the profile! Just saying, a polititians job is to get elected & then he starts working on getting reelected. That's why nothing changes. That's why we need CHANGE. John McCain is more of the SAME. |
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McCain was clearly PANDERING to get women's votes. Why can't everyone see that? Of course he is, it's his job! He met Sarah Palin one time. And then he makes his decision. Is that the way he will make all his decisions? McCain needs to spend time on JSH. Everybody here knows, you can't just look at the pictures. You have to read the profile! Just saying, a polititians job is to get elected & then he starts working on getting reelected. That's why nothing changes. That's why we need CHANGE. John McCain is more of the SAME. You seem to be asumming I am for McCain! LOL |
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So, what's the consensus? Obama or Palin? If we want real change, NEITHER! |
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This country can't seem to unite around a 3rd party candidate or independant, everyone wants change but they keep voting for the same!
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So, what's the consensus? Obama or Palin? If we want real change, NEITHER! ok. i'll buy that. but between the two of them... the question still stands. 
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Sarah Palin = Pro Life
John McCain = Barely Clinging on to Life Good Match! |
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I think Obamba is the lesser of the 2 evils. Biden is the best of the 4 candidates, it should be Biden/Obamba. I'd rather see anyone who is not a democrat or republican though.
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Who is more qualified to be president? Obama is older but has no executive management experience. He was one of 59 IL state senators and US senator since 2005. Palin is younger but has served 2 years as the chief executive of Alaska as governor. Alaska is our largest state with a 2005 gross state product was $39.9 billion. Its per-capita GSP for 2006 was $43,748, 5th in the nation. Is the argument that Palin is in a better position than Obama to be president a valid one? Did something change? Is Palin now running for president? |
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Edited by
littleredhen
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Sat 08/30/08 11:38 AM
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I know one of them will win. I think there is a strong possabilty that the VP will be succeeding this time. McCain is old & not healty. Obama is an obvious target. I think the VP choices are very important this time.
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This country can't seem to unite around a 3rd party candidate or independant, everyone wants change but they keep voting for the same! The country can unite around a third party candidate, however, the Republicrat, one party system won't allow it. The Republicrat party fights third party candidates when they try to get onto the ballots. The corporate money machines that support the Republicrats is not available to non-corporate candidates, so Independents don't have a chance from the get go. As Will Rodgers said; "We've got the best government money can buy." |
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This country can't seem to unite around a 3rd party candidate or independant, everyone wants change but they keep voting for the same! The country can unite around a third party candidate, however, the Republicrat, one party system won't allow it. The Republicrat party fights third party candidates when they try to get onto the ballots. The corporate money machines that support the Republicrats is not available to non-corporate candidates, so Independents don't have a chance from the get go. As Will Rodgers said; "We've got the best government money can buy." That's why I voted for Ross Perot. |
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 Often I think I am a special agent of Billy Graham.
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Did something change? Is Palin now running for president? No, but there is a decent argument that she is as qualified or even more qualified than Obama to seek the office. That is what makes the question interesting. 
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Being a successful (manager) president is about leadership. Like him or not, Ronald Reagan is considered a great president by many because he inspired people (Reagan Revolution) to overachieve. JFK did the same in his short tenure, an example being his inspirational speech to land a man on the moon in a decade. FDR led a nation out of a depression and through a World War. These presidents cannot write or pass legislation; they can only provide the leadership to rally the people and influence it. To me, Barack Obama is a once in a generation inspirational leader, while John McCain is not. So, we should vote someone into office because they give us that "warm and fuzzy" feeling? He only gives me the "governments emptying my pockets" feeling Chaz, this administration is recklessly spending on a war without income (taxes) to pay for it. Is that responsible? Your pockets may be fuller now, but your children and grandchildren will pay for our irresponsibility. We've got to balance our budget AND pay down the near $10T debt. That is going to be incredibly difficult and will take inspired leadership. And increasing taxes to pay for socialized health care isn't gonna solve that problem. Having less social programs while keeping taxes the same would. I believe healthcare should be a right, not a privilege of only those who can afford it. The current system ends up costing billions more than it should because some can only access Emergency Rooms (very costly) for basic medical needs when less costly preventive measures could have avoided it. Also, the insurance industry is making billions in profits and as such are incented to deny treatment in many cases. Not to say nat'l healthcare can be everything to everyone. There are limits such as in the Nataline Sarkisyan case. That poor woman was doomed and there wasn't much sense spending more to "possibly" keep her alive for 6 more months. The Healthcare issue will be brutal and heart wrenching, but it has to be addressed. We can't afford the status quo. Have you looked at Socialized Healthcare closely? Healthcare is important, but it's not a right. This country needs to stop being the place that people come for handouts. There are rewards for good, honest hard work. |
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Did something change? Is Palin now running for president? No, but there is a decent argument that she is as qualified or even more qualified than Obama to seek the office. That is what makes the question interesting.
If you're going by her executive position, wouldn't that make her more qualified than McCain? |
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This country can't seem to unite around a 3rd party candidate or independant, everyone wants change but they keep voting for the same! The country can unite around a third party candidate, however, the Republicrat, one party system won't allow it. The Republicrat party fights third party candidates when they try to get onto the ballots. The corporate money machines that support the Republicrats is not available to non-corporate candidates, so Independents don't have a chance from the get go. As Will Rodgers said; "We've got the best government money can buy." Most people will only vote for the 2 major parties, they think they are "wasting " thier vote otherwise. I guess I can see what they mean, but I am willing to "waste" my vote a few times to help break up the corruption of the current system. I am hoping to give an independant momentum. Thier are some morons where I work that actually think they only have 2 choices & they are all rebuplican leaning. One of them asked me yesterday what Labor Day was for!  She had assumes it was something milatary.
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 The world is gonna end in 2012 anyways
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