Community > General Religion Chat

Topic: The true authorship of the New Testament
Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 08/21/08 09:44 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 08/21/08 09:55 PM
Tribo wrote: Well so far JB, my investigation into this has led me to believe that as far as the research I've done so far that the Kabbalah "numerology" aspect of this book are not in line. Though the Kabbalah mysticism predates anything of the books origin in time, the Numerology seems not to have been introduced until many centuries later - but I'll keep on investigating till i have enough to say for sure one way or the other..... my mission is to see when and where in Jewish history the Kabbalahist started using the type of numerology that is mentioned by the author of your book, once that is found, then i can proceed from there with a further investigation of later numerology of the K's to see if the early numerology mathches the later centuries numerlogy or if there is some type of mixture going on between the 2 - that should give ground's one way or the other as to the factualness of what the author states. i wont have answers im sure til next week at the earliest. - if you in the meantime want to look further into the numerology aspect being presented in the book that would be god also as to comparing notes. i really think that it all hangs or falls on what the numerology's used are and when they came into being as to first things first. From what I am reading, Piso developed his own numbering systems from Pythagoras's method which was developed centuries before: You have to realize that the Piso's hated the Jews and persecuted and slaughtered may of them. His numbering system, if he developed it from the Pythagoras system may have been in effect before any Jewish system of Kabbalah mysticism. I don't really know about that. This also could be a clue of why the Pythagoras system was destroyed or hidden. ..to keep the secrets. ***** From the book: "Centuries before, the Greek philosopher Pythagoras had developed the method of expressing ideas through the numerical equivalents of a word’s letters. Piso took and refined this Pythagorean "mathematics" and by it utilized Greek numerical code,basically three systems: 1. SMALL NUMBERING. (When the same system was used by the Jews in Hebrew, they called it Mispar Koran .) Each letter in Greek had a numerical equivalent. But in small numbering, the zeros were deleted. Thus, in Greek his family name was spelled Kalpournios Piso and had the following numerical equivalents:.....(the rest in the book) (I could not print the Greek letters that were in the book in this post.) 2. INITIAL SYSTEM. This involved using only the initial letters of the names but with full numerical (not small numbering) values... (in the book) 3. SEQUENCE SYSTEM. This was used with, and as an extension of, systems 1 or 2. Each Greek letter also had its assigned sequence in the order of the letters in the Alphabet. (In the book) So although I don't understand the confusing system he is claiming the Piso's used, I am absorbing it little by little. JB

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Thu 08/21/08 09:46 PM
Well we have to say religious texts of any kind have an agenda or something to push so they should be the least reliable for factual accounts that is for sure. To find unbiased accounts one must read both sides of any story or all sides if more than two. Then piece it together with the information that is coinciding of the two accounts. Then do some investigating on ones own of the "holes" in both sides to fill in the blanks and then one may have the closest to unbiased that will ever be known. We know for a fact that whoever is in power at the time the history is written will write it to fit them, we have seen it here in our history books used to teach our children.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Thu 08/21/08 09:51 PM
Tribo wrote: Well so far JB, my investigation into this has led me to believe that as far as the research I've done so far that the Kabbalah "numerology" aspect of this book are not in line. Though the Kabbalah mysticism predates anything of the books origin in time, the Numerology seems not to have been introduced until many centuries later - but I'll keep on investigating till i have enough to say for sure one way or the other..... my mission is to see when and where in Jewish history the Kabbalahist started using the type of numerology that is mentioned by the author of your book, once that is found, then i can proceed from there with a further investigation of later numerology of the K's to see if the early numerology mathches the later centuries numerlogy or if there is some type of mixture going on between the 2 - that should give ground's one way or the other as to the factualness of what the author states. i wont have answers im sure til next week at the earliest. - if you in the meantime want to look further into the numerology aspect being presented in the book that would be god also as to comparing notes. i really think that it all hangs or falls on what the numerology's used are and when they came into being as to first things first. From what I am reading, Piso developed his own numbering systems from Pythagoras's method which was developed centuries before: You have to realize that the Piso's hated the Jews and persecuted and slaughtered may of them. His numbering system, if he developed it from the Pythagoras system was in effect before any Jewish system of Kabbalah mysticism. This also could be a clue of why the Pythagoras system was destroyed or hidden. ..to keep the secrets. ***** From the book: "Centuries before, the Greek philosopher Pythagoras I had developed the method of expressing ideas through the numerical equivalents of a word’s letters. Piso took and refined this Pythagorean "mathematics" and by it utilized Greek numerical code,basically three systems: 1. SMALL NUMBERING. (When the same system was used by the Jews in Hebrew, they called it Mispar Koran .) Each letter in Greek had a numerical equivalent. But in small numbering, the zeros were deleted. Thus, in Greek his family name was spelled Kalpournios Piso and had the following numerical equivalents:.....(the rest in the book) (I could not print the Greek letters that were in the book in this post.) 2. INITIAL SYSTEM. This involved using only the initial letters of the names but with full numerical (not small numbering) values... (in the book) 3. SEQUENCE SYSTEM. This was used with, and as an extension of, systems 1 or 2. Each Greek letter also had its assigned sequence in the order of the letters in the Alphabet. (In the book) So although I don't understand the confusing system he is claiming the Piso's used, I am absorbing it little by little. JB reality.sys corrupted. universe halted. reboot (y/n)?

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Thu 08/21/08 10:25 PM
Tribo wrote: Well so far JB, my investigation into this has led me to believe that as far as the research I've done so far that the Kabbalah "numerology" aspect of this book are not in line. Though the Kabbalah mysticism predates anything of the books origin in time, the Numerology seems not to have been introduced until many centuries later - but I'll keep on investigating till i have enough to say for sure one way or the other..... my mission is to see when and where in Jewish history the Kabbalahist started using the type of numerology that is mentioned by the author of your book, once that is found, then i can proceed from there with a further investigation of later numerology of the K's to see if the early numerology mathches the later centuries numerlogy or if there is some type of mixture going on between the 2 - that should give ground's one way or the other as to the factualness of what the author states. i wont have answers im sure til next week at the earliest. - if you in the meantime want to look further into the numerology aspect being presented in the book that would be god also as to comparing notes. i really think that it all hangs or falls on what the numerology's used are and when they came into being as to first things first. From what I am reading, Piso developed his own numbering systems from Pythagoras's method which was developed centuries before: You have to realize that the Piso's hated the Jews and persecuted and slaughtered may of them. His numbering system, if he developed it from the Pythagoras system was in effect before any Jewish system of Kabbalah mysticism. This also could be a clue of why the Pythagoras system was destroyed or hidden. ..to keep the secrets. ***** From the book: "Centuries before, the Greek philosopher Pythagoras I had developed the method of expressing ideas through the numerical equivalents of a word’s letters. Piso took and refined this Pythagorean "mathematics" and by it utilized Greek numerical code,basically three systems: 1. SMALL NUMBERING. (When the same system was used by the Jews in Hebrew, they called it Mispar Koran .) Each letter in Greek had a numerical equivalent. But in small numbering, the zeros were deleted. Thus, in Greek his family name was spelled Kalpournios Piso and had the following numerical equivalents:.....(the rest in the book) (I could not print the Greek letters that were in the book in this post.) 2. INITIAL SYSTEM. This involved using only the initial letters of the names but with full numerical (not small numbering) values... (in the book) 3. SEQUENCE SYSTEM. This was used with, and as an extension of, systems 1 or 2. Each Greek letter also had its assigned sequence in the order of the letters in the Alphabet. (In the book) So although I don't understand the confusing system he is claiming the Piso's used, I am absorbing it little by little. JB reality.sys corrupted. universe halted. reboot (y/n)? re-install universe CD tools/maintenence - right click un-halt, reboot in safe mode, follow dos commands.

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Thu 08/21/08 10:27 PM
Tribo wrote: Well so far JB, my investigation into this has led me to believe that as far as the research I've done so far that the Kabbalah "numerology" aspect of this book are not in line. Though the Kabbalah mysticism predates anything of the books origin in time, the Numerology seems not to have been introduced until many centuries later - but I'll keep on investigating till i have enough to say for sure one way or the other..... my mission is to see when and where in Jewish history the Kabbalahist started using the type of numerology that is mentioned by the author of your book, once that is found, then i can proceed from there with a further investigation of later numerology of the K's to see if the early numerology mathches the later centuries numerlogy or if there is some type of mixture going on between the 2 - that should give ground's one way or the other as to the factualness of what the author states. i wont have answers im sure til next week at the earliest. - if you in the meantime want to look further into the numerology aspect being presented in the book that would be god also as to comparing notes. i really think that it all hangs or falls on what the numerology's used are and when they came into being as to first things first. HMMM? if there using >0< [zero] in mathematics there seems to be a problem zero did not exist then. From what I am reading, Piso developed his own numbering systems from Pythagoras's method which was developed centuries before: You have to realize that the Piso's hated the Jews and persecuted and slaughtered may of them. His numbering system, if he developed it from the Pythagoras system may have been in effect before any Jewish system of Kabbalah mysticism. I don't really know about that. This also could be a clue of why the Pythagoras system was destroyed or hidden. ..to keep the secrets. ***** From the book: "Centuries before, the Greek philosopher Pythagoras had developed the method of expressing ideas through the numerical equivalents of a word’s letters. Piso took and refined this Pythagorean "mathematics" and by it utilized Greek numerical code,basically three systems: 1. SMALL NUMBERING. (When the same system was used by the Jews in Hebrew, they called it Mispar Koran .) Each letter in Greek had a numerical equivalent. But in small numbering, the zeros were deleted. Thus, in Greek his family name was spelled Kalpournios Piso and had the following numerical equivalents:.....(the rest in the book) (I could not print the Greek letters that were in the book in this post.) 2. INITIAL SYSTEM. This involved using only the initial letters of the names but with full numerical (not small numbering) values... (in the book) 3. SEQUENCE SYSTEM. This was used with, and as an extension of, systems 1 or 2. Each Greek letter also had its assigned sequence in the order of the letters in the Alphabet. (In the book) So although I don't understand the confusing system he is claiming the Piso's used, I am absorbing it little by little. JB

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 08/21/08 11:10 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 08/21/08 11:16 PM
HMMM? if there using >0< [zero] in mathematics there seems to be a problem zero did not exist then. Zero did not exist when? (If the first Joseph in Egypt in the Jewish Bible was sold for 20 pieces of silver and Jesus was sold for 30 peices of silver, how can you say that there were no zero's existing then?) Piso refined this Pythagorean "mathematics" and by it utilized Greek numerical code, basically three systems: 1. SMALL NUMBERING. (When the same system was used by the Jews in Hebrew, they called it Mispar Koran .) Each letter in Greek had a numerical equivalent. But in small numbering, the zeros were deleted. (Is deleting the zeros a Pythagorean method?) JB

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Fri 08/22/08 07:51 AM
HMMM? if there using >0< [zero] in mathematics there seems to be a problem zero did not exist then. Zero did not exist when? (If the first Joseph in Egypt in the Jewish Bible was sold for 20 pieces of silver and Jesus was sold for 30 peices of silver, how can you say that there were no zero's existing then?) Piso refined this Pythagorean "mathematics" and by it utilized Greek numerical code, basically three systems: 1. SMALL NUMBERING. (When the same system was used by the Jews in Hebrew, they called it Mispar Koran .) Each letter in Greek had a numerical equivalent. As to Pythagorus, as far as i know he was a 5th or 6th century mathematician?? how could a 1st century writer have used his theories? But in small numbering, the zeros were deleted. (Is deleting the zeros a Pythagorean method?) JB

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Fri 08/22/08 08:03 AM Edited by tribo on Fri 08/22/08 08:51 AM
HMMM? if there using >0< [zero] in mathematics there seems to be a problem zero did not exist then. Zero did not exist when? (If the first Joseph in Egypt in the Jewish Bible was sold for 20 pieces of silver and Jesus was sold for 30 peices of silver, how can you say that there were no zero's existing then?) Piso refined this Pythagorean "mathematics" and by it utilized Greek numerical code, basically three systems: 1. SMALL NUMBERING. (When the same system was used by the Jews in Hebrew, they called it Mispar Koran .) Each letter in Greek had a numerical equivalent. But in small numbering, the zeros were deleted. (Is deleting the zeros a Pythagorean method?) JB Sorry JB, i did not mean to inply that the concept of Nothing or nil was not known- only that the number or simbol of zero was not used until the 4th century AD, invented supposedly by a hindu named Aryabhatta in india a mathematician. the greeks as far as i know like the hindus left a space after a number to indicate nil, nothing, as to romans [first century AD] you know they used numerals only - X was 1>0<, XX was 20 and so on. I'm not a math man either G, so abra or someone else would be a better bet on pythagorean math - i do know that he was 5th/6th century BC, and that his theroms were not like what is sayed to be in what i've read - but i can't say for sure.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Fri 08/22/08 08:09 AM
Lions: 5, Christians: 0.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 08/22/08 09:24 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 08/22/08 09:29 AM
As to Pythagorus, as far as i know he was a 5th or 6th century mathematician?? how could a 1st century writer have used his theories? Perhaps the numberless system existed before Pythagoras put his own system out there. I was unaware of when Pythagoras actually lived, but this mathematical system may have been around long before him. Perhaps he just discovered it and brought forth his own version. Abra would probably know about this stuff more than me. Where is he? Where is our expert mathmatician? If there is a numbering system that exists without zeros, it probably comes from the advanced society (aliens) who were behind the upgrading and teaching of humans towards civilization. If there is a mathematical system that is correct and ours is wrong, then it has existed for a long time and probably used by another advanced civilization. I wonder if anything existed before Roman Numerals. JB

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Fri 08/22/08 09:39 AM
As to Pythagorus, as far as i know he was a 5th or 6th century mathematician?? how could a 1st century writer have used his theories? Perhaps the numberless system existed before Pythagoras put his own system out there. I was unaware of when Pythagoras actually lived, but this mathematical system may have been around long before him. Perhaps he just discovered it and brought forth his own version. Abra would probably know about this stuff more than me. Where is he? Where is our expert mathmatician? If there is a numbering system that exists without zeros, it probably comes from the advanced society (aliens) who were behind the upgrading and teaching of humans towards civilization. If there is a mathematical system that is correct and ours is wrong, then it has existed for a long time and probably used by another advanced civilization. I wonder if anything existed before Roman Numerals. JB sorry JB, he was 6th cent. BC they could have been used but his theroms are not such as show by pisos book - you'll probalny have to write something about christian religion to get abra to answer here - Maybe that the sybol zero is proof of jesus.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Fri 08/22/08 10:19 AM
And so it begins that some things last forever...

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 08/22/08 10:43 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 08/22/08 10:46 AM
Pythagoras the Samian, or simply Ὁ Πυθαγόρας; born between 580 and 572 BC, died between 500 and 490 BC Note: This is of course history according to who ever wrote it.... timeline_banner.gif Main Events in Biblical History HISTORICAL TIME CHART (Biblical and Historical) Note: Biblical dating follows that of several scholars in my Bibliography, esp. Whitcomb and Boyer. Some dates are uncertain. There is also some overlap, especially in the case of the judges and the kings. B.C. 2090 Abraham called by God 2067 Isaac born 2007 Jacob born 1992 Abraham dies 1944 Isaac dies 1877 Jacob arrives in Egypt 1860 Jacob dies in Egypt 1806 Joseph dies in Egypt 1730 Hyksos invasion of Egypt; Hebrews bondage begins. 1728 Hammurabi of Sumer born 1570 Hyksos expelled from Egypt; Amose I founds 18th dynasty 1548 Amenhotep I becomes pharaoh of Egypt 1548 Hebrew midwives ordered to destroy all Hebrew male children 1528 Thutmose I becomes pharaoh; 1528 All newborn Hebrew males are to be cast into the Nile 1525 Moses born 1510 Thutmose II becomes pharaoh 1504 Hatshepsut becomes pharaoh 1487 Moses flees Egypt 1483 Thutmose III becomes pharaoh 1483 The great oppression of the Hebrews begins 1450 Amenhotep II becomes pharaoh 1447 The Exodus begins 1446 The Tabernacle constructed 1423 Thutmose IV becomes pharaoh 1410 Amenhotep III becomes pharaoh 1407 Moses dies; Joshua conquers Canaan 1400 Conquest of Canaan completed 1377 Akhnaton becomes pharaoh; inaugurates monotheistic reforms 1375 Othniel becomes judge 1319 Ehud becomes judge 1318 Rameses I founds the 19th dynasty in Egypt 1240 Deborah and Barak judge Israel 1194 Gideon becomes judge 1167 Eli born 1155 Abimelech usurps power in Israel 1152 Tola becomes judge 1131 Jair becomes judge 1109 Eli becomes priest 1105 Samuel born 1089 Jephthah becomes judge 1083 Ibzan becomes judge 1071 Elon becomes judge; Samson becomes judge 1069 Samuel begins to minister 1066 Abdon becomes judge 1043 Saul becomes king 1011 Saul and Jonathan slain; David becomes king of Judah 1004 David becomes king over all Israel 971 Solomon ascends the throne 966 Solomon begins to build the Temple in Jerusalem 945 Sheshhonk ( Shishak) becomes pharaoh of Egypt 931 Rehoboam becomes king of Israel and Judah 931 Jeroboam rebels; sets Up a rival kingdom in the north 913 Abijam becomes king of Judah 911 Asa becomes king of Judah 910 Nadab becomes king of Israel 909 Bausha becomes king of Israel 890 Benhadad becomes king of Syria 886 Elah becomes king of Israel; Zimri becomes king of Israel 885 Tibni becomes king of Israel 883 Ashurbanipal II becomes king of Assyria 880 Omri becomes king of Israel 874 Ahab becomes king of Israel 873 Jehoshaphat becomes king of Judah 859 Shalmaneser III becomes king of Assyria 858 Elijah begins to prophesy 853 Ahaziah becomes king of Israel ; 853 Jehoram becomes king of Judah 852 Joram becomes king of Israel 852 Elisha begins to prophesy 841 Jehu becomes king of Israel 841 Ahaziah becomes king of Judah 841 Athaliah seizes the throne of Judah 841 Hazael becomes king of Syria 835 Joash becomes king of Judah 830 Joel prophecies 814 Jehoahaz becomes king of Israel 801 Benhadad II becomes king of Syria 798 Jehoash becomes king of Israel 796 Amaziah becomes king of Judah 790 Uzziah becomes co-regent of Judah 783 Shalmaneser IV becomes king of Assyria 783 Jonah begins his ministry 782 Jeroboam II becomes king of Israel 776 Olympic games begin in Greece 767 Uzziah becomes full king of Judah 764 Amos begins to prophesy 755 Hosea begins to prophesy 753 Rome founded; Zechariah becomes king of Israel 752 Shallum becomes king of Israel 752 Menahem becomes king of Israel 745 Tiglath-pileser III becomes king of Assyria 742 Pekahiah becomes king of Israel 740 Pekah becomes king of Israel 739 Uzziah dies; Isaiah begins to prophesy 739 Jotham becomes king of Judah 736 Micah begins to prophesy 735 Ahaz becomes king of Judah 732 Hoshea becomes king of Israel 727 Shalmaneser IV becomes king of Assyria 722 Sargon II becomes king of Assyria Samaria falls; 722 The ten tribes of Israel go into captivity 715 Hezekiah becomes king of Judah 705 Sennacherib becomes king of Assyria 701 Judah invaded by the Assyrians 686 Manasseh becomes king of Judah 681 Esarhaddon becomes king of Assyria 669 Ashurbanipal becomes king of Assyria 660 Zoroaster born 648 Nahum predicts the fall of Nineveh 642 Amon becomes king of Judah 640 Josiah becomes king of Judah 634 Zephaniah begins to prophesy 627 Jeremiah begins to prophesy 626 Nabopolasser becomes king of Babylon 622 Revival in Judah 619 Habakkuk begins to prophesy 612 Nineveh falls 609 Neco II becomes pharaoh of Egypt 609 Jehoahaz becomes king of Judah 609 Jehoiakim becomes king of Judah 605 Nebuchadnezzar becomes king of Babylon 605 The Babylonians invade Judah Daniel begins to prophesy 597 Jehoachin becomes king of Judah 597 Zedekiah becomes king of Judah 593 Ezekiel begins to prophesy 586 The Babylonians destroy Jerusalem and the Temple 586 The Jews deported to Babylon 586 Gedaliah becomes governor of Jerusalem 586 The rabbis preempt the priests as the holders of divine truth 572 Pythagoras {Added by me) 563 Buddhism founded by Siddhartha 553 Belshazzar becomes regent in Babylon 550 Cyrus becomes king of Persia 550 The temple of Artemis erected at Ephesus 550 Confucius begins to teach 539 Babylon falls to the Medes and Persians 539 Darius the Mede rules in Babylon 538 Zerubbabel and Joshua lead a small party back to Palestine 536 The Temple started in Jerusalem 530 Cambyses becomes king of Persia 521 Smerdis becomes king of Persia 521 Darius I Hystapses becomes king of Persia 520 Zechariah begins to prophesy 520 Haggai begins to prophesy 520 Construction of the Jerusalem Temple resumed 516 The Temple completed 509 The Roman Republic founded 486 Xerxes becomes king of Persia 484 Herodotus the historian born 480 The Greeks defeat Xerxes at Salamis 479 The Greeks defeat Xerxes at Thermopalye 478 Esther becomes queen of Persia 478 Esther saves the Jews of the empire from extermination 473 The Feast of Purim started 469 Socrates born 464 Artaxerxes Longimanus becomes king of Persia 458 Ezra takes a small contingent of Jews back to Palestine 447 The building of the Parthenon commenced 445 Nehemiah takes a small contingent of Jews back to Palestine 443 Nehemiah and Ezra read the Scriptures to the Jews 443 The beginnings of the Midrash; the Sopherim (Scribes) flourish 436 Malachi begins to prophesy 423 Darius II becomes king of Persia 404 Artaxerxes II becomes king of Persia 400 The Midrash begins to develop 399 Socrates condemned to death 359 Artaxerxes III becomes king of Persia 359 Philip becomes king of Macedonia 342 Epicurius teaches his philosophy 336 Darius III Codomannus becomes king of Persia 336 Alexander the Great becomes king of Greece 335 Aristotle teaches at Athens 333 The Battle of Issus fought; Alexander defeats the Persians 333 Alexander takes Egypt 332 Alexander destroys Tyre 331 Alexander seizes Babylon 330 Darius III of Persia slain 329 Alexander marries Roxana in a symbolic gesture of uniting East and West 327 Alexander invades India 323 Alexander claims to be the son of Zeus 323 Alexander dies 323 Alexander's empire divided between his four chief generals 323 Ptolemy I Soter takes Egypt 320 Ptolemy I seizes Palestine 311 Seleucus I Nicator takes Babylon 300 Rome becomes a major world power in the western Mediterranean 300 Seleucus I adds Syria to his realm 285 Ptolemy II Philadelphius becomes king of Egypt 285 Between 285 and 130 the Septuagint translated 280 Antiochus I Soter becomes king of Syria 276 The first Syro-Egyptian war begins 275 Ptolemy of Egypt invades Syria 274 Hinduism codified in India 264 Rome's first Punic war against Carthage begins 261 Antiochus II Theos (the God) becomes king of Syria 260 The second Syro-Egyptian war begins 252 Antiochus II marries Bernice, daughter of Ptolemy II 250 The Parthian kingdom founded 246 Seleucus II Callinicus becomes king of Syria 246 Ptolemy III Euergetes becomes king of Egypt 246 The third Syro-Egyptian war begins 245 Ptolemy invades Syria 240 Seleucus invades Egypt 223 Antiochus III (the Great) becomes king of Syria 221 Ptolemy IV Philopater becomes king of Egypt 221 The fourth Syro-Egyptian war begins 219 Antiochus the Great invades Egypt 218 Rome's second Punic war against Carthage begins 217 Hannibal invades Italy Ptolemy IV invades Syria; Battle of Raphia 215 Rome's first Macedonian war begins 206 Rome drives Carthage out of Spain 203 Ptolemy V ( Epiphanes ) becomes king of Egypt 201 The fifth Syro-Egyptian war begins Carthage surrenders to Rome 200 Rome's second Macedonian war begins 200 The Mishna begins to appear among the Jews 193 Ptolemy V marries Cleopatra, daughter of Antiochus III 190 Antiochus III defeated by Romans at Magnesia 187 Seleucus IV Philopator becomes king of Syria 181 Ptolemy VI Philomater becomes king of Egypt 175 Antiochus IV Epiphanes becomes king of Syria 171 Ptolemy VII becomes co-regent of Egypt with Ptolemy VI 171 Rome's third Macedonian war begins 171 Mithridates I begins the conquest of Babylonia and Media, 171 He adds those countries to Elam, Persia, and Bactra to form the Parthian Empire 169 Antiochus Epiphanes captures Jerusalem 168 The Romans interfere in Antiochus's war with Egypt and prevent his capturing Alexandria 168 Antiochus pollutes the Temple in Jerusalem and suspends the sacrifices of the Jews 166 Matthias leads the Jews in revolt against Antiochus Epiphanes 165 The Jerusalem Temple repaired and cleansed 164 Antiochus Epiphanes dies 154 The Jews in Egypt build a temple at Leontopolis 149 Rome's third Punic war against Carthage begins Rome's fourth Macedonian war begins 146 The Romans destroy Carthage 135 John Hyrcanus becomes high priest in Jerusalem 133 Rome begins to expand her empire eastward 130 The Pharisees begin to emerge as a sect 124 Mithridates II (the Great) conquers Scythia, adds it to the Parthian Empire, 124 Mithridates II makes a treaty with Rome 120 Hyrcanus repudiates the Pharisees and declares himself a Sadducee 106 Cicero born 88 Rome's first Mithridatic war begins 83 Rome's second Mithridatic war begins 74 Rome's third Mithridatic war begins 64 Pompey captures Jerusalem; 64 Pompey leaves the Maccabean high priest Hyrcanus in power 64 Pompey puts Antipater as civil adviser 60 The first Triumvirate at Rome (Caesar, Crassus, and Pompey ) 59 Julius Caesar becomes proconsul; Pompey marries Julia, daughter of Caesar 58 Caesar conquers Gaul 54 Caesar invades Britain 49 Caesar crosses the Rubicon 48 Pompey slain in Egypt 48 Caesar makes Cleopatra queen of Egypt 44 Caesar becomes dictator of Rome for life 44 Caesar assassinated (Ides of March) 43 The second Triumvirate at Rome (Anthony, Lepidus, and Octavian ) 40 Herod appointed king 37 Herod captures Jerusalem 31 Battle of Actium, Anthony slain, 31 Octavian becomes master of Rome, the final triumph of Empire 30 Egypt becomes a Roman province 30 Shammai fourished 30 Hillel flourished 30 Philo of Alexandria fourished 21 Octavian assumed the title of Augustus 20 Herod begins to rebuild the Jerusalem Temple 4 Herod dies 4 THE BIRTH OF JESUS A.D. 14 Augustus dies 14 Tiberius becomes Roman emperor 26 Jesus begins to teach; He characterizes rabbinic teaching (the Mishna) as "vain tradition' 30 Jesus crucified and raised from the dead 30 Full Pentecost; the Christian church is born 37 Caligula becomes Roman emperor 40 Gentiles are added to the church with the conversion of Cornelius 41 Claudius becomes Roman emperor 42 Antioch becomes the new center of church activity 43 Theudas claims to be Messiah and is executed 54 Nero becomes Roman emperor 59 The apostle Paul is imprisoned at Caesarea 60 Paul appears before Agrippa 61 Paul a prisoner at Rome 66 The Jews of Judea revolt against Rome 68 Paul martyred at Rome 69 Jerusalem beseiged by the Romans 69 Jochanan ben Zakkai seeks an audience with Vespasian 69 Vespasian becomes Roman emperor 70 Jerusalem falls; the Temple burned; the Jews deported 73 The last stand of the Jewish rebels at Masada 79 Titus becomes Roman emperor 81 Domitian becomes Roman emperor 96 Nerva becomes Roman emperor 98 Trajan becomes Roman emperor 113 Rome goes to war with Parthia 116 A further Jewish revolt against Rome is suppressed with great severity 117 Hadrian becomes Roman emperor 132 Bar Kochba claims to be Messiah and leads a revolt against Rome 132 Judea depopulated and the Jews denationalized by the Romans 138 Antoninus Pius becomes Roman emperor 150 Tertullian born The History of Rome - Part One 743 - 136 B.C. © 1999-2002 Bible History Online (http://www.bible-history.com)

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Fri 08/22/08 11:42 AM
HMMM?? - when did Cains nephew "Candy" live???

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Fri 08/22/08 11:48 AM
Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.