(This information is not for confirmed Christians.)

It is for anyone who is interested in further investigation or study of books by Abelard Reuchlin concerning the creation of Christianity and the authorship of the New Testament.

He decodes the Bible via numbers to identify authors. (A mathmatician might understand the codes better than I do.)

"The True Authorship of the New Testament by Abelard Reuchlin, 1979. The first book in history to reveal the great secret origin of Christianity, namely that the Calpurnious Piso's of Rome wrote the entire New Testament and other church writings. Definitely a landmark work."

These books can be ordered from this web site.

http://www.vectorpub.com/religion.html

You can also download this book for free, but probably not the other ones on this site.

JB

Eljay,

I don't know what manuscripts you are referring to, so you will have to be very specific. Then, if I run across an "explanation" for them, I will be sure an let you know.

Right now, I am simply doing research and posting interesting tid bits.

As far as "proof" is concerned, you can change that to "evidence" or simply "information" if it makes you feel better.

(Feralcatlady always calls her stuff "proof" and you don't ever call her on that.) I wonder why.

Anyway, I have always said that "proof" is a matter of belief, either in the evidence or the source.

The obviousness of it being plagiarized is obvious to not just me. Some to the stuff was taken from the old testament according to these sources, but for me, the similarity to the myth of Mithra is very suspect. There are also many similarities of other pagan myths of savior gods. That to me anyway is the obvious part.

I'm still looking into it and finding it very interesting. Especially the idea that Flavius Josephus was not who you think he was.

In this day and age, identity theft is a problem but it is not as easy as it would have been back in those days. They did not have cameras so people did not even know what other people looked like. It would be very simple to impersonate anyone or re-invent yourself or be several people.

JB

The true authorship of the New Testament (the book) has the numerical code (which I have not studied) that "proves" (according to the author) who wrote what.

IV. THE NUMERICAL CODE SYSTEMS--PUTTING TWO & TWO TOGETHER & GETTING 22/


Piso wished to insure that no other writers nor family could ever lay claim to the authorship of his and his family’s great work. So he inserted various systems of code into his NT writings, and similarly into his public writings under his Josephus name, and also into the Apochrypha, each to express his and his family’s true identity. It was like copyrighting his work.

Centuries before, the Greek philosopher Pythagoras had eveloped the method of expressing ideas through the numerical equivalents of a word’s letters. Piso took and refined this Pythagorean "mathematics" and by it utilized Greek numerical code, basically three systems.

You can download this book and look at these code systems here if interested.

http://www.vectorpub.com/TrueAuthorship.PDF

(The True Authorship of the New Testament... page 2 exerp)
First published in America in 1979

St. Paul

The Sun god composite, symbolically known as Jesus, was transformed into a supernatural Son of God by the man we call St Paul, whose original name in the stories was Saul of Tarsus.

Officially, St Paul was born to Judean parents and, like them, became a Roman citizen, despite being a Pharisee and a strict adherent to the Hebrew religion.

Who else was supposed to be a Judean who became a Roman? Josephus, the pseudonym for Piso, who wrote the Gospels!

St Paul, it is said, encouraged the persecution of the early Christians, but had a conversion on the road to Damascus when Jesus miraculously ‘appeared’ to him and asked: “Why do you persecute me?” However, Paul had three versions of his story.

In one he heard the voice of Jesus speak to him (Acts 9:7). In another he saw a great light, but without the voice (Acts 22:9). And in the third, he has Jesus giving him instructions about his future mission (Acts 26:13).

Paul was the creation of Pliny the Younger (military name, Maximus) and Justus Piso. They introduced into Paul’s story many of their friends and associates, and characters from the family’s history. For instance, the man called ‘Ananias’ in Acts who cures Paul of blindness was inspired by Annaeus Seneca who died with father Piso at the hands of Nero.

And in Romans, you find the phrase: “Greet Herodion my kinsman”, a code for the Piso family’s connection with Herod the Great.

Paul did not spread the Jesus message to Cyprus, Crete, Macedonia, Asia, Greece and Rome. Pliny and the Pisos did.

Between 100 and 105 Justus, his father, and Pliny, together with their family, friends and slaves, went to Asia Minor (now Turkey), the Greek cities and Alexandria, among many other places, to ‘encourage’ the poor and the slaves into joining their new faith.

very funny and amusing.
accepting such theory is the same as to say that all reality is just a projection of light within some sort of hollographic matrix.
how could the romans have invented something which they fought so intensely for so many centuries.
come on now!!!
just one question: what are the qualifications of the person who wrote all this?

Its funny how you will immediately question the author of this book, who questions the author of the New Testament, and yet you accept the New Testament without ever having questioned who the author might be or what their qualifications are or were.

JB

further how can the romans could have invented the N.T. when the first Gospel (St. Mark) was written in aramaic. A language which the romans did not speak.
Professor Bauer only valid assertion is that most of christian custom have a lot of similarities with roman and greek culture.
duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's quite obvious since the jews rejected Jesus Christ and the Apostles what was the obvious reaction of the Apostles. Well, reach the pagans.
Romans and greeks. Ergo, they needed to adapt the teachings and practices to culture where they were preaching in order to reach the population.
That is what the Church has been doing for 2000 years. Evolving and adapting according to the socio-cultural characteristics of the intended audiences.
It would be very stupid to think that the Church will have the same practices in USA than in South America. Or with philipinnes and native american christians.
The Church have to utilize the richness of the place and culture where it is.
That is what happened at the beginning, and that is what is happening nowadays.
Professor Bauer theories are just that, theories. If there is any factual basis to support his conjectures, please provide them.

TLW

2000 years of solidity are more than enough qualifications for me. The secularization of the 19th century and on is what have brought all these puerile ideas.

flavius josephus didn't even speak, read, or write aramaic.
gosh, the further I research the more ridicule this theory becomes.

I would appreciate it if you would name any sources you are using for your information.

Flavius Josephus was only a pen name for ARIUS CALPURNIUS PISO according to the book mentioned. If you find any other information about Calpurnius Piso, let me know, I would appreciate it.

This is what my source says about the first gospel of St. Mark:

"About the year, 60 A.D., Lucius Calpurnius Piso composed Ur Marcus, the first version of the Gospel of Mark, which no longer exists. He was encouraged by his friend Seneca and assisted by his wife’s kinsman, young Persius the poet."

(Ref: Seneca Ad Lucilium Epistulae Morales, Vol. I, Epistle
XLVI, pp 299-300)


It does not say that the first Gospel of Mark was written in Aramaic. Where is your source for that information? Perhaps the young Persuis Poet knew that language if that is the case.




I will when or if I get more into Professor Bauer. Right now I am looking at something else.

While the first statement above was the beginning of the opening post, I have not looked into the work of Bruno Bauer.

According to the book "The true Authorship of the New Testament" by Abelard Reuchlin, "Flavius Josephus was the pen name for Calpurnius Piso.


JB

might want to check thie out G,


reluctant-messenger.com/essene/gospel_intro.htm


have fun -

I don't buy it at all.

Even if it is the original "gospel" it was still a plagiarized forgery, probably written by Lucius Calpurnius Piso so it is a moot point anyway IMO.

What irks me is how anything written on an old scroll is somehow worshiped as "gospel. What a crock.

The immortal words of "IT IS WRITTEN...." are meaningless in this day and age, but back then, if someone took the time to write it, people just assumed it must be true.

What complete idiots, our ancestors were.

Hell, forget the ancestors, their are still complete idiots existing today.

Question everything.

JB

well 'll see you your idiot and raise you 2 astral trips and a naga and call - whatcha got??

I've got a royal flush of bald face lies.

i just uploaded the html version of the first book topics ill get back with you in a couple days as to what i think -

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well goddess, i have read the first stories you led me to and i must admit there is some pretty interesting things written there, causes on to ponder huh?

I also checked the names mentioned on both wikipedia and encyclopedia B. seems that L.C. piso died in 65 which fits the time line for mark [a short book] to have been penned and written. he also seems to have had the eloquence of word and speech to have done so also - as to the Aramaic text of the N.T.

I can find nothing on his ability of the Aramaic language so further study is needed there. But i won't discount as of yet - there are many possibilities such as having someone else pen it into the Aramaic language after he penned it originally.

all in all it looks like it could be a smoking gun, time and further investigation should reveal that.

it seems their confident enough to offer a reward to anyone who can disprove it - hmmm? And seem more than willing to debate/discuss there beliefs on this matter - which i always see as a good thing. Very interesting to say the least.

keep me posted if you run into anything else on this of important note. I will do the same -