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Topic: Bills therom
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Sun 03/18/07 04:41 PM
I believe communism didnt die, it moved here. any thoughts?

Monier's photo
Sun 03/18/07 04:47 PM
Well communism looks great........on paper.

In real life it kind of sucks.


If we we're all bees instead of people, we'd love it.


BigGlenn's photo
Sun 03/18/07 05:43 PM
Socialism is alive and well Bill.

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Sun 03/18/07 06:18 PM
The cost to hire the proletariat approaches the lowest cost of providing
his basic subsistence. Yep that sounds like here. Don't we have two
people working to support one family now?

gardenforge's photo
Sun 03/18/07 07:12 PM
From each according to their means and to each according to their needs.
That sounds like out tax and welfare systems to me.

gary86's photo
Sun 03/18/07 08:57 PM
sounds like if we have bush much longer he will take all of our rights.
but i can say before long it will be agaist the law to say bush you
suck.

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Mon 03/19/07 10:37 AM
funny i was thinking the same thing about comerade Clinton.

verbatimeb's photo
Mon 03/19/07 11:15 AM
Communism has been alive and well in many, many countries for as long as
it has been around. France is loaded with communist party players and
so on and so on.

I do not believe the United States is loaded with communists but I would
guess you could not swing a dead cat at any party in Hollywood without
hitting a few...

.02

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Mon 03/19/07 04:25 PM
Ok so well communism and socialism are close and related when you look
at the basic premise of each. Socialism is easier to tolerate because
the word communism also implies a godless society where everyone gets
equal shares of the total available wealth or poverty as it may be.
Socialism though suggests some sort of benevolent sharing of goods to
keep impoverished groups and individuals from starving and needlessly
suffering.
Democrats and Republicans alike have some features of socialism in
their agenda, and they include them in their talking points. Nobody has
the bravery to promote communism though. On a historical note, you can
look back to the time of the Roman Empire and see that even so far back
there was a basic understanding that you had to be sure there was enough
food for the people and that the people were able to get the food they
needed. If this was not insured people revolted. They have done it all
through history and a wise government takes steps to be sure there is
enough to go around. Consider the French revolution as an example. The
starving people through out both the government with their nobles and
the church.

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Mon 03/19/07 04:26 PM
Sorry spelling

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Mon 03/19/07 04:28 PM
yes... if it was up to GB and his buddies they would have us under lock
and key!!.... hes a piece of work!!!!

gardenforge's photo
Mon 03/19/07 07:09 PM
no sense trying logic when paranoia prevails

gary86's photo
Tue 03/20/07 01:00 AM
no one makes less since then anyone voting for a republican. they are
for the rich.not one of them every no what it means to work.they started
illegal war bested on lies. they will do anything not to tell the county
the truth.how many of there sons are over in iraq i no not one.

rsaylors's photo
Tue 03/20/07 01:46 AM
The poor fight our wars because, in a pay-incentive army, only the
impoverished and few well-indoctrinated-patriots will put their lives on
the line to accomplish the goals of the nation.

You can be poor and still be for the rich. Our history of puritanism
associates wealth with morality. You and i know this isn't true, as per
the teachings of Christ, but it's a cultural tradition that makes sense
to me.

I'm against killing people, I take a balance of how many dead on one
hand and how many dead on the other and vote for the fewest dead people.

gary86's photo
Tue 03/20/07 01:50 AM
well when i tell you i think it that way everywhere. we say rich men
start wars poor men die

rsaylors's photo
Tue 03/20/07 01:54 AM
did you know that you could buy your way out of the draft during the
civil war? I'm glad we've advanced past the idea of simply letting rich
people buy their way out of their patriotic duty.

Maybe 2 years of mandatory service, to the government, say from the ages
of 19 to 21, would give us all a little better perspective on what and
how we use our resources in government.

gary86's photo
Tue 03/20/07 01:58 AM
yes while hear i have red up on all your history. but i live hear now. i
have most rights you have i even can vote. if you dont vote dont
complain right.

rsaylors's photo
Tue 03/20/07 02:02 AM
^Very true^

You're probably much more well versed on our history than most people
are. Most people ask "what's the most important thing to me, who's going
to make sure that's taken care of", no thought to the wider-applications
or complications caused by that.

gary86's photo
Tue 03/20/07 02:05 AM
yes i would not try to talk if i did not no a little about government.

BigGlenn's photo
Tue 03/20/07 02:24 AM
Hey Gary,
I can always rely on you to look at the sunny side of life.

Jeesh

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