Given the astounding show of force put on by the Soviet Union's urban mechanized units in their rape and pillaging of Georgia, it is fair to say that the Soviet military is very nimble, although not quite as strong as they were at their peak in the late-70s/early-80s. The military implications of this do not boast well for the American forces in their current state. For years, we've had liberals in the legislative and executive actively undermining the strength of our military--Clinton's infamous downsizing is now proving to be a disaster, even though that traitor Bush somewhat reversed that trend. Needless to say, his deployment of U.S. forces and equipment in this insane Arabian Expedition have been equally harmful on our military capabilities. Our real enemy is the Soviet Union, as she is now poised to force her hegemony over vital allies, with the expectation that we are stretched too thin to deal with it.

For nearly two decades now, we have heard the Clintons, the Pelosis, and the Edwardians at the federal level advocating the following:

- Reduction in nuclear weapon stockpiles
- Reduction in active military divisions AND naval fleets
- Reduction in military R&D
- Reduction of military support forces to accommodate regular defense cuts (this is the worst of them all, imo)

Now it is becoming quickly apparent that we will need to confront the Soviet Union in some manner with force--this does not mean war, but at the very least, the threat of war should she not behave. In the middle of all this, we have also figured out that we do not have the manpower to field any type of viable army against them, despite our superior equipment. So that stated, we are now paying the price for this radical peacenik agenda pushed upon us during the euphoria of the alleged "collapse" of the USSR. Our military is about 1.5 million active personnel, with another 1.5 million in reserve. These are shameful numbers given our current geopolitical situation, not to mention evidence of a lack of troops to successfully defend the homeland.

We MUST start expanding the manpower of the U.S. military; it is far too small to serve its designed purpose. We should aim for at least 3 million active personnel by the end of 2012, if not sooner, with an additional 2 million in reserve. Our defense spending is embarrassingly low, considering our GDP--despite what the pacifists say. We spend 550 billion a year to maintain it--this should increase two fold to more adequately protect our shores and our allies from Soviet interference.

What the heck??? This is yet another President Bush mess

Just How the HELL can you point the fingers at Dems when Dubya has had the wheel for the last EIGHT YEARS ?????????????

I don't want to see that closet-socialist mentioned again in my thread, understood? Bush is a spineless leader who has demonstrated in this crisis he cares more about his love child Putin than he does about the security of our nation and the rest of the western world.

Your exactly right

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You should probably read my post.

George Bush Jr. has gotten us so involved in the war in Iraq that we weren't able to take care of Afghanistan.

If we hadn't gone to war with Iraq, we WOULD have the manpower to deal with conflicts in the rest of the world.

George Bush Jr. and his neocons had to have their war, and this has made us less safe and less able to help our allies in other parts of the world.

Wrong. Bush is just as guilty for going into Iraq as he is for going into that no-good slime bucket known as Afghanistan. We should have never gone there, let alone occupied that gutter. Operation Enduring Freedom was one of the worst foreign policy decisions ever made, next to Operation Iraqi Freedom and--we should have carpet bombed the nation into oblivion and left, not built schools and tried to win "hearts and minds." Had we done that, we would have been more adequately able to deal with this blood-thirsty Bear that is now coming out of hibernation. And even then, before he came into office, Clinton had essentially sold what good assets this military had to foreign interests during Operation Allied Force, which was the most criminal of them all.

we should have carpet bombed the nation into oblivion and left



That right there is the smartest thing I have heard anyone say yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My point is that we wouldn't have the manpower shortage
we do now if Bush and his necons hadn't committed so much of
our military forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now that is complete partisan BS. You are meaning to tell me you expect to confront the Soviet Union on multiple fronts and defend the homeland with 1.5 million men and women, accompanied by an underfunded, undersized Navy? Custer would be proud of you.

No, it's simple math.

Do the math.

You know how to count, don't you?

Yes, but apparently partisan hacks don't. The Soviets are on the verge of increasing the military spending within the next fiscal year if Putin gets his way (and he will), and this will include an expansion of personnel. If you think 1.5 million troops can be stationed on multiple fronts and successfully fend off Soviet troops/battle formation without mass casualties as a preventable result, then you are living in a different universe.

It would be the Cold War all over again.

Some might want this.

I don't.

To escalate something like the invasion of South Ossetia into a flashpoint that would lead to another Cold War would be the ultimate in folly.

But you can't criticize the Dems for eviscerating the military without also acknowledging the fact that we've committed too much of our forces in Iraq and Afghanistan on the Republican's watch.

I don't trust Putin any more than I trust Bush, but there are other ways of dealing with conflicts without declaring war.

Correction: invasion of Georgia.



Evidently, you didn't read my first post at all. Either that or you are purposely acting stupid. Here, from my original post, since you need to be spoonfed;





Ah yes, the infamous "carrots and sticks" routines. Too bad Soviets don't eat carrots.

If all you have to offer is insults, then all I have to say to you is:

Grow up.

I have better things to do than to argue with a child.

I'm sorry that it is difficult for you to comprehend the idea of someone condemning both Republicans and Democrats for the current state of affairs. That said, I think my frustration came out in the last post. Nothing annoys me more than people who don't read.

I suspect that what offends you most is people who do not agree with you.

Relax...read....research...pretend you have an open mind...take another breath...you might...learn something, even from people you do not agree with...*gasp*

For all of you who are comfy in your own expertise please remember...it's never to late to learn something new

I never knew that the lack of ability to ascertain crucial facts was actually tantamount to a difference of opinion. Yes, indeed, we do learn something new everyday.