Topic: NOAH'S ARK - WTF??
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Tue 08/26/08 04:05 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 08/26/08 04:07 PM

laugh global/regional/a little bit/ a lot

can't remember why it is supposed to matter nowslaphead





It matters because you came online and attempted to assert that the flood was perhaps incorrectly stated in the bible and had actually only occurred in a localized region of the planet. Now that to me sounds very possible, however, then you have the implication that god is erroneous and not really a stickler for the details. Or perhaps the human men that wrote this particular work felt that this flood WAS in fact covering the entire face of the world as they understood it to be.

I think that's where it became a noteworthy issue anyway. You also commented to the effect that the accomplishments of the ancient Egyptians were really no big deal....

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Tue 08/26/08 04:23 PM
Edited by SharpShooter10 on Tue 08/26/08 04:25 PM


laugh global/regional/a little bit/ a lot

can't remember why it is supposed to matter nowslaphead





It matters because you came online and attempted to assert that the flood was perhaps incorrectly stated in the bible and had actually only occurred in a localized region of the planet. Now that to me sounds very possible, however, then you have the implication that god is erroneous and not really a stickler for the details. Or perhaps the human men that wrote this particular work felt that this flood WAS in fact covering the entire face of the world as they understood it to be.

I think that's where it became a noteworthy issue anyway. You also commented to the effect that the accomplishments of the ancient Egyptians were really no big deal....

see, quote me half right then put a little twist on it

I said I believe it was regional not that the bible is wrong but not specific on that to me

didn't say anything like God was erroneous, that is your take i guess on what I said

Egypt once was a great nation, I stated that it is now a base nation, not a great nation now, and me (me) believes that it never will be again, not just Egypt (thats just the one we were talking about)then Jim Belushi or someone got upset cause I think he may be from there now or something at which point our (he and I) conversation went south

I stated my opinions and beliefs as have others. I dont believe in shoving religion, down someones throat, If you got a question or I see a topic that interest me I will state what I think, but have never said, you gotta believe me or else

there, think thats it for now, were you 'asserting your thoughts and beliefs on folks? or merely sharing your thoughts and beliefs

really not in the mood for all the bickering, pot shots and stuff today, I was yesterday, maybe again next week or so, maybe after a break and a breather who knows

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Tue 08/26/08 04:26 PM
I thought we were gonna play nice for a spellflowerforyou

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Tue 08/26/08 04:38 PM
"Don' care about the Egyptians tho, they are an old culture that has been and will remain around while always being just a base nation, never amounting to any real power or greatness"

Just thought I would give you a little refresher on what your actual quote was.

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Tue 08/26/08 04:43 PM

"Don' care about the Egyptians tho, they are an old culture that has been and will remain around while always being just a base nation, never amounting to any real power or greatness"

Just thought I would give you a little refresher on what your actual quote was.

thought that was what I just said that I did say, or are we playing word games

footsies maybeflowerforyou

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Tue 08/26/08 04:44 PM
Edited by SharpShooter10 on Tue 08/26/08 04:45 PM

"Don' care about the Egyptians tho, they are an old culture that has been and will remain around while always being just a base nation, never amounting to any real power or greatness"

Just thought I would give you a little refresher on what your actual quote was.

even read it again, thats what I just said that I said and tried to clarify more regarding the Egypt thing

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Tue 08/26/08 04:46 PM
see how we misconstrue what each other says at times, no wonder Theology gets so controversial

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Tue 08/26/08 04:50 PM

"Don' care about the Egyptians tho, they are an old culture that has been and will remain around while always being just a base nation, never amounting to any real power or greatness"

Just thought I would give you a little refresher on what your actual quote was.

maybe it was the "always" word

They did use to Be a great Nation, just not so much now, nor again in my opinion, little different wording but the same thing

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Tue 08/26/08 04:56 PM
Edited by SharpShooter10 on Tue 08/26/08 05:00 PM


"Don' care about the Egyptians tho, they are an old culture that has been and will remain around while always being just a base nation, never amounting to any real power or greatness"

Just thought I would give you a little refresher on what your actual quote was.

maybe it was the "always" word

They did use to Be a great Nation, just not so much now, nor again in my opinion, little different wording but the same thing
and it's not just Egypt, that's just the one we happened to be using, there are many nations now I call base nations that while once great, no longer are. This one is a great but young nation and I believe if God gets removed from the equation it could end up in the same boat. Your God or mine, they are all at least for good, right, morals and such as opposed to mean, bad, just nasty etc

just my opinion I dont claim to know about all religions

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Tue 08/26/08 04:57 PM
laugh your just tryin to bunch my boxers aren't youlaugh

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Tue 08/26/08 05:05 PM


"Don' care about the Egyptians tho, they are an old culture that has been and will remain around while always being just a base nation, never amounting to any real power or greatness"

Just thought I would give you a little refresher on what your actual quote was.

thought that was what I just said that I did say, or are we playing word games

footsies maybeflowerforyou


I used the ancient Egyptians as a historic reference point because they experienced neither visible break up nor disruption of their culture and continued on their assent immediately following the flood. So I’m not sure what you mean by "base nation" exactly? Are you attempting to insult or discredit modern day Egypt in some respect? Cairo, also referred to as the Triumphant City, is one of the world's largest urban areas as well as being the administrative capital of Egypt. Relatively close to this metropolis lie the great pyramids of Giza. You are familiar with these are you not? One of the 7 wonders of the world and so forth? In technology, medicine and mathematics, ancient Egypt achieved a high standard of productivity and sophistication. Since you seem to feel that they never “really amounted to any power or greatness” I thought I better cover the bases here with both ancient and current day. Ancient Egyptian physicians were renowned in the Near East for their healing skills. There was a high degree of specialization among Egyptian physicians, with some treating only the head or the stomach, while others were eye-doctors and dentists. Medical papyri show empirical knowledge of anatomy, injuries, and practical treatments. Wounds were treated by bandaging with raw meat, white linen, sutures, nets, pads and swabs soaked with honey to prevent infection, while opium was used to relieve pain. Garlic and onions were used regularly to promote good health and were thought to relieve asthma symptoms. Ancient Egyptian surgeons stitched wounds, set broken bones, and amputated diseased limbs, but they recognized that some injuries were so serious that they could only make the patient comfortable until he died. So I’m afraid I just don’t agree with your assertion that ancient Egypt was merely a fly speck on the radar….

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Tue 08/26/08 05:09 PM
gotta go folks, it's been as always, Interesting and even funny/sad at times

a friend just came to visitdrinker

and got me off this dad blame computer


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Tue 08/26/08 05:10 PM
Right, well I will wait for your rebuttal with baited breath my friend. Pop another cool one for Krim...happy

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Tue 08/26/08 05:19 PM

gotta go folks, it's been as always, Interesting and even funny/sad at times

a friend just came to visitdrinker

and got me off this dad blame computer


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drinker bigsmile drinker

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Tue 08/26/08 05:20 PM
eljay - stop playing with your stage sets and answer - \/
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Mt arrarat, where the ark was to have rested is aprrox 30,000 ft high

30,000 div. by - 40 days = 750 ft of water upon the >>entire<< earths surface per day!!

750 ft div. by - 24 hrs = 31.25 ft an hour upon the "entire surface of the planet!

now someone tell me logically where all this water went to in 150 days after it stopped raining?

the seas were already full before the flood right?

so it couldn't just "run" off!

are you saying that it just all evaporated?

and just how many trillions of gallons would that be?

it would have created clouds so dense that it would have no choice but to just re-release the water into rain again correct? hmmm??

any answers eljay, deb, god?
Edited by tribo on Tue 08/26/08 03:50 PM

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Tue 08/26/08 05:21 PM



"Don' care about the Egyptians tho, they are an old culture that has been and will remain around while always being just a base nation, never amounting to any real power or greatness"

Just thought I would give you a little refresher on what your actual quote was.

thought that was what I just said that I did say, or are we playing word games

footsies maybeflowerforyou


I used the ancient Egyptians as a historic reference point because they experienced neither visible break up nor disruption of their culture and continued on their assent immediately following the flood. So I’m not sure what you mean by "base nation" exactly? Are you attempting to insult or discredit modern day Egypt in some respect? Cairo, also referred to as the Triumphant City, is one of the world's largest urban areas as well as being the administrative capital of Egypt. Relatively close to this metropolis lie the great pyramids of Giza. You are familiar with these are you not? One of the 7 wonders of the world and so forth? In technology, medicine and mathematics, ancient Egypt achieved a high standard of productivity and sophistication. Since you seem to feel that they never “really amounted to any power or greatness” I thought I better cover the bases here with both ancient and current day. Ancient Egyptian physicians were renowned in the Near East for their healing skills. There was a high degree of specialization among Egyptian physicians, with some treating only the head or the stomach, while others were eye-doctors and dentists. Medical papyri show empirical knowledge of anatomy, injuries, and practical treatments. Wounds were treated by bandaging with raw meat, white linen, sutures, nets, pads and swabs soaked with honey to prevent infection, while opium was used to relieve pain. Garlic and onions were used regularly to promote good health and were thought to relieve asthma symptoms. Ancient Egyptian surgeons stitched wounds, set broken bones, and amputated diseased limbs, but they recognized that some injuries were so serious that they could only make the patient comfortable until he died. So I’m afraid I just don’t agree with your assertion that ancient Egypt was merely a fly speck on the radar….
what you just wrote so well is true except the fly speck on radar analogy ( which made me :smile: ) although thats not what I said exactly. I dont dispute that Egypt was a great nation, superpower, at one time.

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Tue 08/26/08 05:23 PM



"Don' care about the Egyptians tho, they are an old culture that has been and will remain around while always being just a base nation, never amounting to any real power or greatness"

Just thought I would give you a little refresher on what your actual quote was.

maybe it was the "always" word

They did use to Be a great Nation, just not so much now, nor again in my opinion, little different wording but the same thing
and it's not just Egypt, that's just the one we happened to be using, there are many nations now I call base nations that while once great, no longer are. This one is a great but young nation and I believe if God gets removed from the equation it could end up in the same boat. Your God or mine, they are all at least for good, right, morals and such as opposed to mean, bad, just nasty etc

just my opinion I dont claim to know about all religions
flowerforyou Its primarily because the land in a lot of those regions are no longer fertile and most of the natural resources have been depleted by millenia of human occupation.flowerforyou

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Tue 08/26/08 05:28 PM

eljay - stop playing with your stage sets and answer - \/
00
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U

Mt arrarat, where the ark was to have rested is aprrox 30,000 ft high

30,000 div. by - 40 days = 750 ft of water upon the >>entire<< earths surface per day!!

750 ft div. by - 24 hrs = 31.25 ft an hour upon the "entire surface of the planet!

now someone tell me logically where all this water went to in 150 days after it stopped raining?

the seas were already full before the flood right?

so it couldn't just "run" off!

are you saying that it just all evaporated?

and just how many trillions of gallons would that be?

it would have created clouds so dense that it would have no choice but to just re-release the water into rain again correct? hmmm??

any answers eljay, deb, god?
Edited by tribo on Tue 08/26/08 03:50 PM
drinker man that math just gave me a headache, I really wish I could answer it, but I don't know

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Tue 08/26/08 05:30 PM
Fine. I guess your comment "might" have been misinterpreted. I don’t think it was so all that I ask is that you rethink some of those assumptions and conclusions you have come to. Besides that’s not even the point. If there had been a flood that covered the Earth, it would have affected them in some respect and in a very noticeable way. Something that global in its range would have left physical trace evidence of a lost people or a disrupted culture. The Egyptians would be but one civilization.

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Tue 08/26/08 05:31 PM
Edited by wouldee on Tue 08/26/08 05:32 PM
my my mirror mirror.:wink: laugh


It evolved into a big beach and is waiting on it's partner, the polar melt, to make a new vacation destination with hotels and gambling and sin and debauchery and......

well, OK, that's a stretch, but it is in transition and the evidence of it's persent state is only intermediary to the next step of our ever evolving landscape.

The moon is a romantic night light, so maybbe the earth is evolving into an evening night light for lovers on some other globular hurl.

Or.....new species are mingling their seed in the shifting sands and waiting for the day when they are ready to sprout and show man what wondrous feats nature can produce.


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl