Topic: Georgia 'under attack' as Russian tanks roll in
Zapchaser's photo
Sat 08/09/08 06:33 PM




I can find you a million or two stories just like this and I'll bet you every one of the journalist are still alive.


See how you are confused:

http://www.rsf.org/special_iraq_en.php3

"217 journalists and media assistants killed since the start of fighting in Iraq in March 2003"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
A total of 47 journalists have been killed in Russia since 1992

I have found it with few pressing on keyboard in Google. Why did not you do it?

This is the difference between Russians and you - we do not believe anything, we always check everything.

There are those here that will search until they find whatever it is that supports their cause and will ignore whatever they find that doesn't. Truth and facts are irrelevant to them. Their anger clouds their vision to such an extreme that truth and facts will be modified to fit their need to fuel their anger, much in the same way that pathological liars will strive to convince themselves as well as others. slaphead


You are funny Steve!

I thought you were one with their eyes open, but it appears maybe I was mistaken.
Good luck with that clouded perception ayedrinker drinker

Not at all Glenn, my eyes aren't clouded with rage and hatred. Common sense rules the day, not anger. While a radical stance might make one feel like they are trying to show the world that they have found the answer and we all should follow their example, it in fact shows people that that person is close to being unhinged if not already flapping in the breeze and on a dating site that isn't the billboard one wants to be erecting for all prospective dates to view. It would be akin to fishing for walleye in the toilet. rofl

Zapchaser's photo
Sat 08/09/08 06:38 PM



Meanwhile investigation showed what Politkovskay was killed by her "freinds" from Chechnya. But _none_ of "free" media announced this. Why?

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
Tell us again sergy,
Why did Russia invade Afghanistan, and what part of that reason did the US have?


Hm. Don't try to jump to other theme.
Questions are:

1.
1.1. Serbians bombing separatist are war crime and Americans bombing Serbians are peacekeepers
but
1.2. Georgians bombing separatist are peacekeepers and Russians bombing Gerbians are agressors

Why there is such difference?

2.
2.1. You see what there were more than five times journalist killed in Iraq than in Chechnya.
2.2. You blamed Putin, KGB and whatsoever they killed Politkovskay without _any_ evidence. But killers were found and the reason is the money she had got from chechnya criminals and was not able to return.

Why you discovers only half of truth? What for? Do you think you will make America stronger in this way?

I'm noticing you are trying to avoid answers. It is typical Jewish behavior. You can count me as anti-semitic, but if i'll notice once again you carry on to not answering any question and playing a role of all-knowing-all-the-truth-all-the-world i'll stop arguing with you. It is useless.


That is how it is done. If you are losing the argument, and trust me for some it is the argument they live for and it has to do with teaching and not learning, you simply switch to another topic. It beats learning, eh? whoa

SergeyDolin's photo
Sat 08/09/08 06:55 PM
Edited by SergeyDolin on Sat 08/09/08 07:03 PM

1)- If it's a question you use one of these (?)


I did.


It's not the same as the journalist killed for disagreeing with or writing something that exposes a truth


Why do you claim somebody is killed because of "saying truth" without having any evidences? Why are you hiding what most of them were killed by thier "friends" - homosexual partners, Chechens or simple criminals? Note: there are two question marks.


Serbia was committing genocide.


Why? Serbian did not do anything else what Georgians makes with Ossetians. Why there's a difference? And do you know what late exhumation in Serebrintsa proved what there was no civilians in the mass grave? Your "free" media did not show it to you? What's a pity. That miserable Russians have more information than proud Americans limited to see three (or four?) news channels ruled by Jewish.

You still did not answer why the very same situation leads to very opposite reaction?


The intervention into that conflict was a NATO intervention authorized by the UN.


Don't lie. That bombing was not approved by UN. Russia and China put veto on it.


It was not a US intervention.


Sure! And F-111 which was shot down by Serbians was not American. And hundreds of civilians were killed by bombs of aliens from Mars. And thousands of Serbian killed by Kosovars it is not a genocide. It was a "fight for independence". Do you think people other the world are so stupid to believe this fair-tales?


4.)- Anti-semantic feelings are never OK. Some Americans do possess them , but they aren't cool, and are usually considered a type of racism in this country.


I know it. Before Jewish start to ruin another country they disable to blame themselves. It is a wise policy.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 08/09/08 07:18 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 08/09/08 07:22 PM





I can find you a million or two stories just like this and I'll bet you every one of the journalist are still alive.


See how you are confused:

http://www.rsf.org/special_iraq_en.php3

"217 journalists and media assistants killed since the start of fighting in Iraq in March 2003"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
A total of 47 journalists have been killed in Russia since 1992

I have found it with few pressing on keyboard in Google. Why did not you do it?

This is the difference between Russians and you - we do not believe anything, we always check everything.

There are those here that will search until they find whatever it is that supports their cause and will ignore whatever they find that doesn't. Truth and facts are irrelevant to them. Their anger clouds their vision to such an extreme that truth and facts will be modified to fit their need to fuel their anger, much in the same way that pathological liars will strive to convince themselves as well as others. slaphead


You are funny Steve!

I thought you were one with their eyes open, but it appears maybe I was mistaken.
Good luck with that clouded perception ayedrinker drinker

Not at all Glenn, my eyes aren't clouded with rage and hatred. Common sense rules the day, not anger. While a radical stance might make one feel like they are trying to show the world that they have found the answer and we all should follow their example, it in fact shows people that that person is close to being unhinged if not already flapping in the breeze and on a dating site that isn't the billboard one wants to be erecting for all prospective dates to view. It would be akin to fishing for walleye in the toilet. rofl


Resorting to riddles, although that may give you the appearance of the town jester, does not make you appear intelligent, logical, or all seeing. Quit trying to use inaccurate generalizations about others happiness or some other nonsensical argument!
Try logic and fact, that's what I use and it works quite well.

You could even say it keeps me healthy, wise, and happy!!!

See me smile----------> bigsmile

Seriously try a different approach. If you need links to facts, I'll be glad to help you come up to date on the subject at hand!.
They'll sure be more accurate than those taken from a Russian web-site!!!:wink:

I meant to laugh here, laugh laugh laugh noway



SergeyDolin's photo
Sat 08/09/08 07:28 PM

Try logic and fact, that's what I use and it works quite well.


But fact is America is getting more and more troubles. Be leaded by layers. And you repeat all of their nonsense.

Because you did not see how your country is ruined you can't estimate the danger. You are looking like a teenager. Sorry.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 08/09/08 07:59 PM
Sergy,

Sure! And F-111 which was shot down by Serbians was not American. And hundreds of civilians were killed by bombs of aliens from Mars. And thousands of Serbian killed by Kosovars it is not a genocide. It was a "fight for independence". Do you think people other the world are so stupid to believe this fair-tales?

===============================================================

No, It was an F-16. If I remember right.
It was American, you are correct about that!
Alien?
Really, I didnt know there were aliens in Serbia....
Damn, I guess it was a good thing we went in there. We being NATO plus additional countries, 32 in all, some ex USSR countries!

Fanta46's photo
Sat 08/09/08 08:04 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 08/09/08 08:06 PM
I better not!!laugh laugh laugh

Zapchaser's photo
Sat 08/09/08 08:45 PM

I better not!!laugh laugh laugh

Better not? Why? It was surely common sense and level headed thinking you were going to share with us right? Certainly not angry divisive diatribe. BTW, it was an analogy, not a riddle in my last post. I think if we were to put it to a vote here you would be shocked. You know me and I know you. Whaddya say?flowerforyou Try not to appear to be an angry malcontent so often Glenn. You might even end up getting lucky. Woo hoo! :banana: Not with me of course. That would be just wrong. Catch that Bears game? laugh flowerforyou

SergeyDolin's photo
Sat 08/09/08 08:47 PM

No, It was an F-16. If I remember right.


We both are wrong. Stealth is F-117 http://windowsxp-privacy.net/?id=198760097


Damn, I guess it was a good thing we went in there. We being NATO plus additional countries, 32 in all, some ex USSR countries!


Sure. USA had to gather all of dumps and garbage of the world to pretend to be "one among others". But once again: do not count people are fools.

Now you can see what all that "allies" worth. A lot of American taxpayers money were spent to buy their "solidarity" and now they are running away like rats from a sinking ship.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 08/10/08 10:33 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 08/10/08 10:34 AM
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Spain
Slovakia
Slovenia
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States
Luxembourg
Australia
Albania
Austria
Argentina
Finland
Ireland
Malaysia
Morocco
New Zealand
Russia
Sweden

You call these countries a gathering of garbage???

Even your precious Russia??

WarElephant's photo
Sun 08/10/08 10:37 AM
The expansion of NATO is what caused this conflict. If we truly had an element of goodwill in our foreign policy, we should have disbanded NATO after 1991 and never started building that missile shield over Poland.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 08/10/08 10:41 AM

The expansion of NATO is what caused this conflict. If we truly had an element of goodwill in our foreign policy, we should have disbanded NATO after 1991 and never started building that missile shield over Poland.


Hey,
Looky there we agree!!drinker

WarElephant's photo
Sun 08/10/08 10:48 AM


The expansion of NATO is what caused this conflict. If we truly had an element of goodwill in our foreign policy, we should have disbanded NATO after 1991 and never started building that missile shield over Poland.


Hey,
Looky there we agree!!drinker


No, we don't. You have excused Russia's response as rational, while I have fairly dismissed it as genocide.

Zapchaser's photo
Sun 08/10/08 10:50 AM


The expansion of NATO is what caused this conflict. If we truly had an element of goodwill in our foreign policy, we should have disbanded NATO after 1991 and never started building that missile shield over Poland.


Hey,
Looky there we agree!!drinker

Me too. drinker

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 08/10/08 12:02 PM
:smile: Did you know that Georgia is a U.S. ally, supporting the U.S. in Iraq? :smile: They were there for us but are we there for them?:smile:

SergeyDolin's photo
Sun 08/10/08 12:02 PM

You call these countries a gathering of garbage???


"Now sir, of young Fortinbras, of unimproved mettle hot and full, hath in the skirts of Norway, here and there, sharked up a list of lawless resolutes"


Even your precious Russia??


Russia in 1999? It was a miserable province of Israil.

America is my precious. And this is the reason why i don't want Americans be confused once again. MAD in Iraq is quite enough.

SergeyDolin's photo
Sun 08/10/08 12:19 PM

The expansion of NATO is what caused this conflict.


Is not truth at all. USA was the only country who had this idea.

The reason of conflict is what Saakashvili needed "small victory" to prove his dictate in Georgia.


If we truly had an element of goodwill in our foreign policy, we should have disbanded NATO after 1991


No. Soviet Union/Russia was not last threat to the world (real or imaginary - i do not care at the moment). Islamics, drug-dillers others criminals got a huge power in 90ts.

The first mistake was what NATO have not been having any clear aim for a long time. The second - the war against Serbia: indeed it was the war against of Europe, but for Albanian drug-dealers. The third was joining that small useless counties. NATO turned up to another political block.


and never started building that missile shield over Poland.


Oh. Really. It looks like a suicide.

SergeyDolin's photo
Sun 08/10/08 12:27 PM

:smile: Did you know that Georgia is a U.S. ally, supporting the U.S. in Iraq?


You forgot to mention: for expense of USA. Georgia is not an ally it is a parasite. The country of lazy and unfaithful people which used to live with robbery.

:smile: They were there for us but are we there for them?:smile:


If you want to help them just give up with Saakashvili. That paranoiac killed 2000 Ossetians in a few hours in last night. What do you want to get from him? Another "Our son of *****?" Did you forget how USA supported Pol Pot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot) who killed about million?

madisonman's photo
Sun 08/10/08 12:46 PM


:smile: Did you know that Georgia is a U.S. ally, supporting the U.S. in Iraq?


You forgot to mention: for expense of USA. Georgia is not an ally it is a parasite. The country of lazy and unfaithful people which used to live with robbery.

:smile: They were there for us but are we there for them?:smile:


If you want to help them just give up with Saakashvili. That paranoiac killed 2000 Ossetians in a few hours in last night. What do you want to get from him? Another "Our son of *****?" Did you forget how USA supported Pol Pot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot) who killed about million?
You bring up allot of good points Sergey we could also talk about the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in Iraq

s1owhand's photo
Sun 08/10/08 01:12 PM
insightful article comparing the initial
responses of Obama and McCain to the crisis...

‘Invasion of Georgia’ a ‘3 a.m. moment’
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080809/pl_politico/12409_1