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Topic: School Uniforms.............
star_tin_gover Joined Tue 04/29/08 Posts: 735	Thu 07/31/08 04:58 AM
The idea behind it is so that students look the same. It is indoctrination, not education. It teaches kids that to be different, to be unique, to be individual, is wrong and bad. SO I'm totally against school uniforms. I have to completely disagree with you there. Having gone to catholic Middle and High Schools where uniforms were nom de rigure, I have to say it doesn't stifle their individuality at all. In fact if anything, it only challenges them to be more creative in how they express themselves during school. Firstly: your clothes don't make you who you are, they are but one facet of personal expression, and kids that age have no friggin clue who they are yet. Point two: the uniforms are only needed during school and DO come off after school (like right after, I would change on the bus sometimes) and at school social functions like dances and such. Point three: Completely removes the oppressive "competition factor". Not all families have the disposable income for keeping their 13yold in the latest jeans from Abercrombie & Fitch. It just gives the unkind kids one more thing to make fun of other kids for. Point four: It makes it sooo much easier on the parents to not have to worry about said "competition factor" when shopping for school and getting the kids ready. Uniforms sure as hell didn't turn me into a robot Just my opinion. I concur!

Rapunzel Joined Tue 08/22/06 Posts: 16246	Thu 07/31/08 09:45 AM
The idea behind it is so that students look the same. It is indoctrination, not education. It teaches kids that to be different, to be unique, to be individual, is wrong and bad. SO I'm totally against school uniforms. I have to completely disagree with you there. Having gone to catholic Middle and High Schools where uniforms were nom de rigure, I have to say it doesn't stifle their individuality at all. In fact if anything, it only challenges them to be more creative in how they express themselves during school. Firstly: your clothes don't make you who you are, they are but one facet of personal expression, and kids that age have no friggin clue who they are yet. Point two: the uniforms are only needed during school and DO come off after school (like right after, I would change on the bus sometimes) and at school social functions like dances and such. Point three: Completely removes the oppressive "competition factor". Not all families have the disposable income for keeping their 13yold in the latest jeans from Abercrombie & Fitch. It just gives the unkind kids one more thing to make fun of other kids for. Point four: It makes it sooo much easier on the parents to not have to worry about said "competition factor" when shopping for school and getting the kids ready. Uniforms sure as hell didn't turn me into a robot Just my opinion. I concur! I agree completely too... Hi Steve... How are you, Big Boy I see you were " up and attum " so early, as usual.... Hope your day is going well... the temps are perfect here & the smoke has subsided

Rapunzel Joined Tue 08/22/06 Posts: 16246	Thu 07/31/08 09:52 AM
The whole idea of uniforms is good in theroy but not so good in proactice because status can be flaunted in so many other ways it really doesn't stop any competion. The clique's still develope weather it is noted by jewlery, hairstyles, expensive electronics, or who takes them to and from school. The disadvantage is that the kids who might need a wardroe to participate in extra ciricular activities probaly will have less as the are forced to pay for the uniforms. I also agree with this statement too... Hey there Pacific Star ... Long time no see!!!

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Thu 07/31/08 10:26 AM
I think uniforms are a good idea. With all the cuts in school programs, more and more costs are being passed on to the parents. I think it would be cost effective for parents. As far as the blingbling thats always going to be there even with uniforms. We need to try and bring back quality education for our children so they can thrive in this ever changing world...JMO

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Thu 07/31/08 11:29 AM
I had to wear uniforms my last 2 years of high school which was 01-02. I didn't see the point. There was still the poor-rich gap. You could buy your polos and shorts at walmart or the buckle. You could have $20 shoes or $120 shoes. Rich girls still had there jewelry etc. You just had a lot more people going to the office for not following state uniform policies. Then you had people like my friend who wore stupid stuff but that was allowed in the policy. (they allowed button downs and if you wanted a tie, so he wore his little cousins tie that was about 4 inches long)

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Thu 07/31/08 11:30 AM
Not to mention it doesn't save parents money. If the kids were anything like we were we changed right after school, so you had your "school clothes" and your "non school clothes". Thats now extra clothes you have to buy.

ReddBeans Joined Sat 10/27/07 Posts: 6930	Thu 07/31/08 12:45 PM
For me personally having to purchase school uniforms for my son ends up costing me more than if he could wear regular clothes. I don't know about many other single parents but I have learned to buy clothes on clearance for the following year. So now that he has to wear uniforms I still do that cause he has to have regular clothes for after school and such but now I also have to buy uniforms which rarely if ever are clearanced. I can understand the reasoning behind uniforms but from a financial standpoint I feel that it puts more burden on the single parent.

rainysky39 Joined Sun 01/20/08 Posts: 4071	Thu 07/31/08 01:01 PM
The idea behind it is so that students look the same. It is indoctrination, not education. It teaches kids that to be different, to be unique, to be individual, is wrong and bad. SO I'm totally against school uniforms. I have to completely disagree with you there. Having gone to catholic Middle and High Schools where uniforms were nom de rigure, I have to say it doesn't stifle their individuality at all. In fact if anything, it only challenges them to be more creative in how they express themselves during school. Firstly: your clothes don't make you who you are, they are but one facet of personal expression, and kids that age have no friggin clue who they are yet. Point two: the uniforms are only needed during school and DO come off after school (like right after, I would change on the bus sometimes) and at school social functions like dances and such. Point three: Completely removes the oppressive "competition factor". Not all families have the disposable income for keeping their 13yold in the latest jeans from Abercrombie & Fitch. It just gives the unkind kids one more thing to make fun of other kids for. Point four: It makes it sooo much easier on the parents to not have to worry about said "competition factor" when shopping for school and getting the kids ready. Uniforms sure as hell didn't turn me into a robot Just my opinion.

Rapunzel Joined Tue 08/22/06 Posts: 16246	Thu 07/31/08 01:24 PM
no uniforms no pants below there ass no shirts to there knees hats either forward or backward