I found some information for you about the unemployment rate.

According to the census of July 2008 there are 203,987,724 between the ages of 15-64. The unemployment rate as of July '08 is 4.6% which equals out to 9,383,435.304. So yeah, there are that many, if not more, unemployed people in the U.S. today.


Here is the site that I got my info from if you'd like to look at it further.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/us.html

There has been over 400,000 jobs lost in America since New Years!

Its all in your mind!

That boy will never read or acknowledge facts carmen.
He will, as Ive proven before, post half truths though.
Omitting what doesnt suit his NeoCon objectives!

He'll even swear he's a Democrat when caught!

You mean I did all that math for nothing?

Actually, I was quite shocked at the numbers myself. I've seen the 4.6 percent and when you first think about it, it doesn't seem that high. But doing the actual math really made it stand out more for me. I really didn't think it was this bad!

This according to OpenSecrets.org

Obama has raised $287,397,945 (round to $287 million)
Clinton raised $229,422,030 (round to $229 million)
Mccain has raised $119,594,596 (round to $120 million)
Mitt Romney raised $107,065,257 (round to $107 million)

Just those 4 alone raised $743,000,000

Okay, you are going to tell me that only the 'well off' have paid all of that?

Now, to go with a Daily Kos article for Obama:

"According to Time, Obama raised over $100 Million last year from about 470,000 unique donors. According to this blog Obama has an average donation size of about $250. If we do the math, it comes out to $117.5 million, so I suspect the actual average donation was smaller: something like $215 per donor." - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/14/193945/594/628/457024

Average size of donation was around $250. So, it was not the very well off paying the highest donation possible. And, if there were many spending $2300 for primary and $2300 for general campaign it would make them a unique donar. There are 470,000 of them last year and likely many hundred thousands more at this time of individual unique donars.

To pull down $4,600 to a $250 average you have to know that there were huge numbers of donations from people donating numbers less than $250. This proves that the average citizen is donating OR it means the 'well off' are donating incredibly cheaply.

Are you talking about me ??

Pretty much!

Noooooo!!!

Good because I saw you using my quote and I was like I can't vote for Fanta for president anymore.

PS Carmen from Labor department 5.5% unemployment=8.5 million unemployed with 4.4 miilion actually looking for jobs. So I guess Obama is going to create people too.

Average Joe - mortgage payment, car payment and children and many Average Joe's have child support payments.

How many average Joe's do you know that gave to a campaign?
I don't know any.

I'm confused about your statement "Obama is going to create people too." What do you mean by that? And just because 4.4 million people are lookingfor a job, doesn't mean they havea job meaning, they are still unemployed!

McDonalds is not psychological!!

Those are reallll jobs!

I know a few. So, your argument to what I just posted essentially is, that the "well off" people are doing so bad in this economy that yes, some are giving the high limit of $4600, but most "well off" people are now only giving a few dollars, most of them doing so under $250.

I would just love to see Bill Gates writing a check to Obama's campaign for $250 and saying essentially the economy sucks and that is all he can afford.

"Sixty percent of the Obama campaign's funds come from people who have given at least $1000" - http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-070725obama,1,2036333.story

Anyone real good with math here? Round up the 470,000 unique donors, as that number is from last year, to 500,000. Then, knowing that 60 percent have donated "at least" $1000, what does the other percentile of donations have to be to bring down the average donation to $250?

Essentially:

500,000 donors
60 percent donated $1000 plus
Average donation is $250

What percent is needed to be below $1000 for the average to be $250?

Or, is their too little info known? Use the $287,000,000 million dollars he raised number if you have to.

Statistics are very misleading.

The unemployment statistics the government publishes does NOT include all of the people who have dropped off the unemployment roles or have just given up.

If you counted those people, I'm sure the unemployment rate in this country would be MUCH higher.

Okay, I will make it much easier. Should have done so for myself as well...lol.

"Ninety percent of his donors give $100 or less, and 41 percent have given $25 or less, according to the Obama campaign. Overall, he has raised 45 percent of his money in small contributions. Hillary Rodham Clinton's figure is 30 percent, Republican John McCain's is 23 percent." - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10223.html

And, here is the slamdunk, much better than the Tenet slamdunk:

"Among small donors, students have given $303,000 to him, compared with less than $100,000 to Clinton and less than $20,000 to McCain." - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10223.html

College STUDENTS giving $303,000 to Obama?

Do you really think McCain who swore off lobbyist and who claims the high ground of conducting a "respectful" campaign would actually make Gramm his Sec of Treasury?
ALL I know for sure is that lobbyist are not working for nothing and they're not working in our interest. How many Federal lobbyist does McCain have working in his campaign. Isn't it like 59?

"Gramm who called Americans "a Nation of Whiners") was a lobbyist for a foreign bank during the same time he served as an advisor to John McCain. He also had a hand in the mortgage meltdown, and crafted McCain's response to the mortgage crisis: screwing borrowers to save lenders."

Yep, it was the well to do who paid into all of those campaigns cause I know I had to put my campaign donation into the gas tank..lol

Don't know where you got your figures of donations but they are erroneous. Some corporations donate tens of thousands of dollars to the campaigns. Charities donate large amounts to the candidate of their liking. Groups and organizations collect and donate large sums to the campaigns. So you are way off here.

Also include those who are not eligible for unemployment from the beginning are never counted either. Some jobs do not offer unemployment so those do not get counted.