WOW! It's been a real eye opener. I never realized how many people were circling the planet. The counter culturalists are having a field day with faith. It just goes to show what happens when credibility is given to non-sensical thinking.

No matter... like 911...times are coming on us when we will realize that in light of God's lordship over all creation the things that were thought of as important will be ever so moot. It won't matter who the prez is...who gets elected or what party you belong to. So many will realize how much of what we think & believe means nothing. Except God.

No matter how misguided...we are a good people, spoiled but we have love still left to give...eachother. We will again come together because we are, after all, Americans.

God bless~~~

That's right. And if the Republicans get in it'll be all "right."

It's beyond all that...really.

What does that mean? "WHen credibility is given to non-sensical thinking?"

Is that the kind of thinking that differs from yours?

Or does it mean something else?

Well for everything we do there's a result. I see counter culture as emnity with anything that is good & decent.

Our society was a better society that didn't need govt. intervention at every turn when people had self control. The counter culture demoralized our great society.

Our founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they knew Americans allowed this to happen.

Ok.... so do you mean in general, or with a religious base?

Are you suggesting if everyone had the SAME values, from a religious perspective, it would all be a better place with a better outcome?

Well I think at one time people definately had more substance & self control. It made for a much better society.

Are you saying that it doesn't matter if there is no religious basis, or 'faith' as you stated in your OP... but more about having a collective belief structure that works towards the greater good for all?

Am I on the right track, in where you were going with your OP?

I want to be sure, before I add to it personally... thankyou for your patience, and answering my questions..

As much as some people would like things to remain the same, the only constant is change.

I look at the good changes in society. More freedom, more tolerance, more communication through the Internet,

I don't know what you mean when you say "counter culturalist having a feild day with faith." That could mean anything really. It looks like some kind of insider double-speak that only people of your mind-set might understand. In otherwords... rhetoric.

Please explain what you mean with this statement and give an example so I can have a clue what you are talking about:

"It just goes to show what happens when credibility is given to non-sensical thinking."

Example please? I have no idea what you mean by non-sensical thinking.

Yes I do think you are "good people" no matter how misguided you might be.

JB

Well let's put it this way....

Absent God, we have a DE-moralized society. What's so great about that?