Topic: Let's get controversial lol
Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:49 PM







Scinn:

Erm...while my name is pronounced that way...it has no resemblance in meaning whatsoever

no offense intended my lady, was but a joke, i mean no harm, you will get to know me better with time - i'm very sarcastic at times - laugh


lol sounds good happy flowerforyou


i cant send you flowers in return- BB will get mad at melaugh laugh laugh laugh sad


lmao like she would care...or I would...
I was mentioning the roses in the same sensse that one gives the roses to a ballerina when she comes down from stage. It is meant as a compliment saying that she stated something rather well...maybe I should stick to plain english since I haven't even mastered that! lmao


wow - like i meant it any differently - hahaha - i understood you BB - i was being funny i thoughtbigsmile i'm not as dense as some on here - hahaha - ok no more jokes - i can see i'm not taken rightly either - soooooorrrrrryyyyyblushing


Darn it Tribo we aren't allowed to make jokes?


hahahaha - hey are you and scinn trying to start a new language??

BB:
I was mentioning the roses in the same ""sensse"" that one gives the roses to a ballerina

sensse?? scinn?? whats with the doubbllee connssannanntt'ss all of a ssuddenn - laugh :tongue:



lol Actually "Scinn" holds special meaning to me...the double "n" is a part of that :) hehe As for "sensse" lol Only BB knows ;) flowerforyou

anoasis's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:54 PM


I think most religions would feel safe to put up a billboard if they wanted- it's hard to hurt a billboard. But it seems like many religions wouldn't want to put up a billboard. I know people of several religions-muslim, buddhist, hindu, jewish, christian, pagen- but only the christians have really tried to "convert" me while the others just explained their beliefs and respected the fact that I didn't share their beliefs.

I'm not sure why that is so. That's just my personal experience, obviously not statistically significant evidence. But everything I have seen on this site has been similar.

Maybe it is just because I live in America and Christianity is the dominant religion here? Or maybe it is an inherent difference in practices required by the religion?



I fully agree hon :) I just find it curious, (and I'll leave it at that for people's minds to interpret as they will lmao)


Yes it is curious... I personally believe that some are insecure in their beliefs and feel that there is "safety in numbers"- I have often seen a religious argument or point bolstered by the logic that "it must be true because a million other people think the same thing".

...and I think that at one time everyone thought that the earth was flat, so the majority opinion doesn't make it right... that kind of madison avenue advertising "band-wagon" approach to logic has no merit for me...

Peace and joy to all. flowerforyou

(and to all a good night bigsmile )



Quikstepper's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:55 PM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sun 06/15/08 08:01 PM



Hi everyone


I love your posts though quickstepper you've done more to demonstrate cultural prejudice, blind faith, and hatred as applied to religion than any of us ever could have without you!


Sometimes honesty can be so difficult to present. But in the end I guess IT IS ALL ABOUT THE HONESTY, or at least, so I'm told. drinker



yes...it certainly is. Carnal thinking gets humanity in trouble EVERY time. :smile:


Dunno why you are using carnal suddenly in all of your arguments but I will address both definitions.

If not for carnal thought your parents never would have had sex, and you would not have been born so you would be able to post these messages.

If not for carnal existence there would be nothing in the world, and everything physical is carnal including that bible you won't stop thumping and trying to use as a weapon while refusing to read it.


Again...man's definition...not God's. To bring sex into it is small minded thinking. God's ways are higher than the carnal things we see. Carnality does not overide God's sovernty. that I even have to explain it...LOL

NEXT!!!!

BTW...I hear alot of THUMPing too. It's called man made new age... You should take some of your own advice there.... :wink:

tribo's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:57 PM
Edited by tribo on Sun 06/15/08 07:59 PM
SCINN:


lol Actually "Scinn" holds special meaning to me...the double "n" is a part of that :) hehe As for "sensse" lol Only BB knows ;)




ah ah ah !!! not fair!!

the rules of "god" (small g) say if you mention something without telling what it is - your not allowed to talk on this forum anymore - do you wanna go to hell?? no special meaning's allowed - that's a scinnnnn!!!!

Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:58 PM
Edited by Scinn on Sun 06/15/08 08:02 PM




yes...it certainly is. Carnal thinking gets humanity in trouble EVERY time. :smile:


Dunno why you are using carnal suddenly in all of your arguments but I will address both definitions.

If not for carnal thought your parents never would have had sex, and you would not have been born so you would be able to post these messages.

If not for carnal existence there would be nothing in the world, and everything physical is carnal including that bible you won't stop thumping and trying to use as a weapon while refusing to read it.


Again...man's definition...not God's.

NEXT!!!! I hear alot of THUMPing too. It's called man made new age... You should take some of your own advice there.... :wink:


I think I'm confused. Do you have a different definition for "carnal" than dictionaries? Because you keep saying "man's definition, not God's" in reference to that...and you use the word a lot...

I looked the word up...it had a most clear meaning...but you keep saying it's wrong? So...what's the definition for "carnal" and it's variations? (carnality...etc)

Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:02 PM

SCINN:


lol Actually "Scinn" holds special meaning to me...the double "n" is a part of that :) hehe As for "sensse" lol Only BB knows ;)




ah ah ah !!! not fair!!

the rules of god say if you mention something without telling what it is your not allowed to talk on this forum anymore - do you wanna go to hell?? no special meaning's allowed - that's a scinnnnn!!!!


lmao well apparently I'm already going there..? :tongue: So what's one more "scinn" lmao But seriously though, "Scinn" is actually from a very hard time in my life when I was younger and it's a word me and my sister created to get us through the hard times together when it seemed like each other was all we had. It was like our little code word to each other without the rest of the people around us knowing what we were talking about.

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Sun 06/15/08 08:02 PM




BB - stay away from "scinn" you dont need anymore "scinn" in your life, laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Oh no does that mean I've come face to face with original "scinn"?


she's original but not sure if she's the scinn i'm thinking of - bigsmile

Good one Shel!laugh laugh laugh

Blackbird's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:04 PM




Hi everyone


I love your posts though quickstepper you've done more to demonstrate cultural prejudice, blind faith, and hatred as applied to religion than any of us ever could have without you!


Sometimes honesty can be so difficult to present. But in the end I guess IT IS ALL ABOUT THE HONESTY, or at least, so I'm told. drinker



yes...it certainly is. Carnal thinking gets humanity in trouble EVERY time. :smile:


Dunno why you are using carnal suddenly in all of your arguments but I will address both definitions.

If not for carnal thought your parents never would have had sex, and you would not have been born so you would be able to post these messages.

If not for carnal existence there would be nothing in the world, and everything physical is carnal including that bible you won't stop thumping and trying to use as a weapon while refusing to read it.


Again...man's definition...not God's. To bring sex into it is small minded thinking. God's ways are higher than the carnal things we see. Carnality does not overide God's sovernty. that I even have to explain it...LOL

NEXT!!!!

BTW...I hear alot of THUMPing too. It's called man made new age... You should take some of your own advice there.... :wink:


Wow we can't even talk or communicate because we aren't allowed to use correct definitions for words we have to stick to an archaic missuse of a word because some guy on a pulpit didn't know how to correctly speak english?

Quikstepper's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:06 PM





Hi everyone


I love your posts though quickstepper you've done more to demonstrate cultural prejudice, blind faith, and hatred as applied to religion than any of us ever could have without you!


Sometimes honesty can be so difficult to present. But in the end I guess IT IS ALL ABOUT THE HONESTY, or at least, so I'm told. drinker



yes...it certainly is. Carnal thinking gets humanity in trouble EVERY time. :smile:


Dunno why you are using carnal suddenly in all of your arguments but I will address both definitions.

If not for carnal thought your parents never would have had sex, and you would not have been born so you would be able to post these messages.

If not for carnal existence there would be nothing in the world, and everything physical is carnal including that bible you won't stop thumping and trying to use as a weapon while refusing to read it.


Again...man's definition...not God's.

NEXT!!!! I hear alot of THUMPing too. It's called man made new age... You should take some of your own advice there.... :wink:


I think I'm confused. Do you have a different definition for "carnal" than dictionaries? Because you keep saying "man's definition, not God's" in reference to that...and you use the word a lot...

I looked the word up...it had a most clear meaning...but you keep saying it's wrong? So...what's the definition for "carnal" and it's variations? (carnality...etc)


Carnal according to God's word refers to the physical man...lower than, incomplete. That's where you get the term "born again," to be born in God's spiritual image. God says His ways are higher than ours. If you want to see Kingdom living you need spiritual eyes.

I guess God's term covers more than man's definition. Man's are pretty limited at that....

Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:08 PM
Edited by Scinn on Sun 06/15/08 08:08 PM






yes...it certainly is. Carnal thinking gets humanity in trouble EVERY time. :smile:


Dunno why you are using carnal suddenly in all of your arguments but I will address both definitions.

If not for carnal thought your parents never would have had sex, and you would not have been born so you would be able to post these messages.

If not for carnal existence there would be nothing in the world, and everything physical is carnal including that bible you won't stop thumping and trying to use as a weapon while refusing to read it.


Again...man's definition...not God's.

NEXT!!!! I hear alot of THUMPing too. It's called man made new age... You should take some of your own advice there.... :wink:


I think I'm confused. Do you have a different definition for "carnal" than dictionaries? Because you keep saying "man's definition, not God's" in reference to that...and you use the word a lot...

I looked the word up...it had a most clear meaning...but you keep saying it's wrong? So...what's the definition for "carnal" and it's variations? (carnality...etc)


Carnal according to God's word refers to the physical man...lower than, incomplete. That's where you get the term "born again," to be born in God's spiritual image. God says His ways are higher than ours. If you want to see Kingdom living you need spiritual eyes.

I guess God's term covers more than man's definition. Man's are pretty limited at that....


Could you quote it please? Because, I'm genuinely confused here. No where did it say that "carnal" meant "to be born again" or to be "lower than God, incomplete"....?

tribo's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:10 PM





yes...it certainly is. Carnal thinking gets humanity in trouble EVERY time. :smile:


Dunno why you are using carnal suddenly in all of your arguments but I will address both definitions.

If not for carnal thought your parents never would have had sex, and you would not have been born so you would be able to post these messages.

If not for carnal existence there would be nothing in the world, and everything physical is carnal including that bible you won't stop thumping and trying to use as a weapon while refusing to read it.


Again...man's definition...not God's.

NEXT!!!! I hear alot of THUMPing too. It's called man made new age... You should take some of your own advice there.... :wink:


I think I'm confused. Do you have a different definition for "carnal" than dictionaries? Because you keep saying "man's definition, not God's" in reference to that...and you use the word a lot...

I looked the word up...it had a most clear meaning...but you keep saying it's wrong? So...what's the definition for "carnal" and it's variations? (carnality...etc)


scinn - strongs concordence - greek - 4559 - carnal - "selena" - bodily,temporal,unregenerated

strongs- 4561 greek - "sarz" human nature, as opposed to godly or spiritual nature

what she's saying is your unregenerated in mind or spirityour jsut acting temporal human unlike her or other saved people. hahaha

Blackbird's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:11 PM
Edited by Blackbird on Sun 06/15/08 08:19 PM






Hi everyone


I love your posts though quickstepper you've done more to demonstrate cultural prejudice, blind faith, and hatred as applied to religion than any of us ever could have without you!


Sometimes honesty can be so difficult to present. But in the end I guess IT IS ALL ABOUT THE HONESTY, or at least, so I'm told. drinker



yes...it certainly is. Carnal thinking gets humanity in trouble EVERY time. :smile:


Dunno why you are using carnal suddenly in all of your arguments but I will address both definitions.

If not for carnal thought your parents never would have had sex, and you would not have been born so you would be able to post these messages.

If not for carnal existence there would be nothing in the world, and everything physical is carnal including that bible you won't stop thumping and trying to use as a weapon while refusing to read it.


Again...man's definition...not God's.

NEXT!!!! I hear alot of THUMPing too. It's called man made new age... You should take some of your own advice there.... :wink:


I think I'm confused. Do you have a different definition for "carnal" than dictionaries? Because you keep saying "man's definition, not God's" in reference to that...and you use the word a lot...

I looked the word up...it had a most clear meaning...but you keep saying it's wrong? So...what's the definition for "carnal" and it's variations? (carnality...etc)


Carnal according to God's word refers to the physical man...lower than, incomplete. That's where you get the term "born again," to be born in God's spiritual image. God says His ways are higher than ours. If you want to see Kingdom living you need spiritual eyes.

I guess God's term covers more than man's definition. Man's are pretty limited at that....


God's word? They added a dictionary to the bible? What verse is that exactly?

Carnal in correct form means worldy...physical so to speak...and that covers everything physical including air and only excludes that of the spirit, mind, conception, or another dimension we lack understanding of. I think the meaning of the word is pretty obvious...and actually you are unable to see spirituality with your eyes so to speak if you are going to start playing with definitions.

The third eye is a non physical eye, and your eyes you use to see verything else are incapable of registering the non-physical world. In theory even if you SEE something from another dimension with your eyes it would be your brain superimposing the image of a non physical perception onto your actual vision which is a result of objects and light.

tribo's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:12 PM
Edited by tribo on Sun 06/15/08 08:12 PM


SCINN:


lol Actually "Scinn" holds special meaning to me...the double "n" is a part of that :) hehe As for "sensse" lol Only BB knows ;)




ah ah ah !!! not fair!!

the rules of god say if you mention something without telling what it is your not allowed to talk on this forum anymore - do you wanna go to hell?? no special meaning's allowed - that's a scinnnnn!!!!


lmao well apparently I'm already going there..? :tongue: So what's one more "scinn" lmao But seriously though, "Scinn" is actually from a very hard time in my life when I was younger and it's a word me and my sister created to get us through the hard times together when it seemed like each other was all we had. It was like our little code word to each other without the rest of the people around us knowing what we were talking about.


ok you can go to heaven now - alls forgiven - nice story!!:smile:

Blackbird's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:14 PM

scinn - strongs concordence - greek - 4559 - carnal - "selena" - bodily,temporal,unregenerated

strongs- 4561 greek - "sarz" human nature, as opposed to godly or spiritual nature

what she's saying is your unregenerated in mind or spirityour jsut acting temporal human unlike her or other saved people. hahaha


Thank you Tribo!
I kind of take issue with that though...I mean the biblical translations that were orginally greek and then translated into english re-writing the definitions of the english language seems unreasonable to me but then that is only my personal opinion.

So when she says carnal she is refering to our heathen non-chrstianity enslaved souls?

Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:19 PM






yes...it certainly is. Carnal thinking gets humanity in trouble EVERY time. :smile:


Dunno why you are using carnal suddenly in all of your arguments but I will address both definitions.

If not for carnal thought your parents never would have had sex, and you would not have been born so you would be able to post these messages.

If not for carnal existence there would be nothing in the world, and everything physical is carnal including that bible you won't stop thumping and trying to use as a weapon while refusing to read it.


Again...man's definition...not God's.

NEXT!!!! I hear alot of THUMPing too. It's called man made new age... You should take some of your own advice there.... :wink:


I think I'm confused. Do you have a different definition for "carnal" than dictionaries? Because you keep saying "man's definition, not God's" in reference to that...and you use the word a lot...

I looked the word up...it had a most clear meaning...but you keep saying it's wrong? So...what's the definition for "carnal" and it's variations? (carnality...etc)


scinn - strongs concordence - greek - 4559 - carnal - "selena" - bodily,temporal,unregenerated

strongs- 4561 greek - "sarz" human nature, as opposed to godly or spiritual nature

what she's saying is your unregenerated in mind or spirityour jsut acting temporal human unlike her or other saved people. hahaha


aaah...now that makes sense, referring to the definitions you found for me :) Much easier when I can see them like that. I had just never heard the word before until tonight lol


Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:21 PM



SCINN:


lol Actually "Scinn" holds special meaning to me...the double "n" is a part of that :) hehe As for "sensse" lol Only BB knows ;)




ah ah ah !!! not fair!!

the rules of god say if you mention something without telling what it is your not allowed to talk on this forum anymore - do you wanna go to hell?? no special meaning's allowed - that's a scinnnnn!!!!


lmao well apparently I'm already going there..? :tongue: So what's one more "scinn" lmao But seriously though, "Scinn" is actually from a very hard time in my life when I was younger and it's a word me and my sister created to get us through the hard times together when it seemed like each other was all we had. It was like our little code word to each other without the rest of the people around us knowing what we were talking about.


ok you can go to heaven now - alls forgiven - nice story!!:smile:


woohoo! ty ty!! flowerforyou laugh laugh laugh

tribo's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:22 PM


scinn - strongs concordence - greek - 4559 - carnal - "selena" - bodily,temporal,unregenerated

strongs- 4561 greek - "sarz" human nature, as opposed to godly or spiritual nature

what she's saying is your unregenerated in mind or spirityour jsut acting temporal human unlike her or other saved people. hahaha


Thank you Tribo!
I kind of take issue with that though...I mean the biblical translations that were orginally greek and then translated into english re-writing the definitions of the english language seems unreasonable to me but then that is only my personal opinion.

So when she says carnal she is refering to our heathen non-chrstianity enslaved souls?


correct BB - sorry i dont have the orignal languages anymore just sis's strong concordence so your right it has deeper meaning but i cannot qoute what that is at this point.but it's close enough. hahaha - oh by the way my sis is a devoute christian and we get along great - nothing like the discussion's on here.

Blackbird's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:24 PM



scinn - strongs concordence - greek - 4559 - carnal - "selena" - bodily,temporal,unregenerated

strongs- 4561 greek - "sarz" human nature, as opposed to godly or spiritual nature

what she's saying is your unregenerated in mind or spirityour jsut acting temporal human unlike her or other saved people. hahaha


Thank you Tribo!
I kind of take issue with that though...I mean the biblical translations that were orginally greek and then translated into english re-writing the definitions of the english language seems unreasonable to me but then that is only my personal opinion.

So when she says carnal she is refering to our heathen non-chrstianity enslaved souls?


correct BB - sorry i dont have the orignal languages anymore just sis's strong concordence so your right it has deeper meaning but i cannot qoute what that is at this point.but it's close enough. hahaha - oh by the way my sis is a devoute christian and we get along great - nothing like the discussion's on here.


I get along great with those that follow Christ. I only have problems with those that oppose christ while worshiping a church that claims to follow him.

A follower of Christ is usually a very good person, it's what makes someone a christian that seems to be not understood or agreed upon very much.

Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:29 PM
You know, personally, I think I have a highly refined sense of spirituality...capable of encompassing people of all religions without judging them or damning them only because their faith differs from mine. I think it makes one more "Godly" (for lack of a better word or phrase) to be able to listen with an open mind, realize that the other's faith/opinion isn't wrong...only different...and accepting the fact that I don't know everything...will never know everything...and some things are supposed to remain a mystery. Questions without answers. Unless you look at the answer from the most simplest of views.

When I asked my 7 year old son what the meaning of life was, he responded: "Meaning of life? You mean...why there is life? Or what our life means?" I told him either, he said: "There's life because there's supposed to be life." I asked him why. He said, "Because there just is." He said it so matter of factly, like I should already know that. When I asked him about the other, he said: "Our life means being good to each other and loving everybody and just..living." I couldn't have said it better myself. drinker

I think as adults we over-analyze everything...there is only "one" answer to any equation...and some answers arn't acceptable, so we spend our lives trying to prove them wrong. If only we were all 7 year olds again. How much simpler and happier the world would be...oh wait...except when it comes to sharing the toys. laugh

tribo's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:30 PM




scinn - strongs concordence - greek - 4559 - carnal - "selena" - bodily,temporal,unregenerated

strongs- 4561 greek - "sarz" human nature, as opposed to godly or spiritual nature

what she's saying is your unregenerated in mind or spirityour jsut acting temporal human unlike her or other saved people. hahaha


Thank you Tribo!
I kind of take issue with that though...I mean the biblical translations that were orginally greek and then translated into english re-writing the definitions of the english language seems unreasonable to me but then that is only my personal opinion.

So when she says carnal she is refering to our heathen non-chrstianity enslaved souls?


correct BB - sorry i dont have the orignal languages anymore just sis's strong concordence so your right it has deeper meaning but i cannot qoute what that is at this point.but it's close enough. hahaha - oh by the way my sis is a devoute christian and we get along great - nothing like the discussion's on here.


I get along great with those that follow Christ. I only have problems with those that oppose christ while worshiping a church that claims to follow him.

A follower of Christ is usually a very good person, it's what makes someone a christian that seems to be not understood or agreed upon very much.



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