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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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 All sentient beings are inherantly provided with survival instincts.
I watched a pretty faced wallaby, with both its hind legs broken, still try to get away from a dog that was annoying it.
Humans that choose to commit suicide are usually in an altered state, ie; suffering with depression, or other impaired mental function, and are not functioning instinctually. I believe people commit suicide for different reasons. They are afraid to face life. Life to them is worse than death. Death is an escape. It is a withdrawal from life. Some people who are mentally ill, psychotic, depressed, in pain, or experiencing mind numbing fear, have lost hope, or are just plain exhausted of living and totally stressed out. It takes courage to face life and to face your fears. Lots of courage. To chose to do the earth incarnation game takes very courageous spirits. I think everyone probably tries suicide at least once in their many lives lived here. JB |
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I think everyone probably tries suicide at least once in their many lives lived here. JB Many lives lived here ?. How many ?. |
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I would like to see an example of a computer purposefully going against what it had been programmed to do. Could you explain such a thing for me? 
Microsoft Works. -Kerry O. |
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i'll get working on the script.... 
hey, i'm not the one that yanked it out of it's home!!! Yeah, but you probably paid the pick man! You're the GodFather of the Carrot Slaughter. (sounds like a great title for a vegan murder mystery) |
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I would like to see an example of a computer purposefully going against what it had been programmed to do. Could you explain such a thing for me?
Microsoft Works. -Kerry O.
Really! That was too good. 
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I would like to see an example of a computer purposefully going against what it had been programmed to do. Could you explain such a thing for me?
Microsoft Works. -Kerry O. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Isn't Microsoft Works an oxymoron?
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I would like to see an example of a computer purposefully going against what it had been programmed to do. Could you explain such a thing for me?
Microsoft Works. -Kerry O.
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I think everyone probably tries suicide at least once in their many lives lived here. JB Many lives lived here ?. How many ?. As human, about 1500, give or take a few hundred. (I believe in reincarnation, as you know.) |
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Edited by
creativesoul
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Thu 06/12/08 10:11 PM
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I am beside myself here James. I confessed that I should have acknowledged the fact that I recognized the definition of perception was too vague when I actually did.
That was all I said. Because it was all that I meant. I have no idea where the rest of your post came from. 
First of all, I ignored the errant definition's existence purposefully. It did not matter James. Now you try to tell me what I am thinking and/or saying again??? 
If awareness was required for perception, as you and JB are attempting to claim, then all things which perceive would also be aware. That is clearly not the case, as I have shown... REPEATEDLY There are numerous things which perceive, but are not aware. All things which are aware, self or otherwise, also perceive. Therefore, awareness comes from perception, not the other way around. That was my intitial claim, and it still is. You are confused, and you and JB have it all backwards...
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 06/12/08 10:18 PM
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If awareness was required for perception, as you and JB are attempting to claim, then all things which perceive would also be aware.
I think we have beat this subject to death and I'm bored with it. You still have not redefined your terms. "Perceive" and "Aware." Which I think is where the problem lies here. Creative, if you don't believe in spiritual awareness or that it can exist after the death of the body, or outside or apart from the body, then you are probably an atheist. Why don't you just say so. 
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Speak for yourself.
Definition is not necessary. Things perceive stimulus and instinctively react accordingly without awareness. No thing has awareness without perception.
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I perceive through my awareness that Michael speaks HIS truth... and JB perceives through her awareness something different.
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Hiya Lee.
Those two had better be glad that this damn kiosk is not fully functional...
I could easily quote their own words which support what I said. That is the irony in it all. Who has been calling names? Who has been called names? Who has been speaking for another? Who has been attempting to speak for himself? Ooooo.... now my ego is getting the best of me...
I wanna make 'em look in a mirror sooooooooooo bad. 
Oh well... No buddy is perfect...
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Hiya Lee. Those two had better be glad that this damn kiosk is not fully functional...
I could easily quote their own words which support what I said. That is the irony in it all. Who has been calling names? Who has been called names? Who has been speaking for another? Who has been attempting to speak for himself? Ooooo.... now my ego is getting the best of me...
I wanna make 'em look in a mirror sooooooooooo bad.
Oh well... No buddy is perfect...
I hear yah Michael. 
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You just gave me rest Lee...
along with Artsy in private... Thank you!!! Arts refuses to witness this... I do too at this point...
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Speak for yourself. Definition is not necessary. Things perceive stimulus and instinctively react accordingly without awareness. No thing has awareness without perception.
I always speak for myself. Who else would I speak for? Definition is not necessary? (It is no wonder we can't communicate.) Do you believe in awareness apart from the physical body or not? That is all I am asking. Yes or no. Do you believe in soul or spirit? Yes or no. If yes, is it aware and or conscious? Yes or no. If yes, does it arise from the body or does the body arise from it? Yes or no. JB |
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Define awareness and perception!
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 06/12/08 11:57 PM
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Define awareness and perception! The basic premise for these definitions is that reality and everything in it is made up of things that vibrate. Everything vibrates. Everything is vibration and frequency including lights and reflections. Awareness: Awareness is the ability to perceive. (It is not perception itself. It is the ability.) ADDED: ... PERCEIVE: To sense or feel vibrations. If there is nothing to perceive (no vibration~~highly unlikely but possible) it still exists as the ability to perceive any vibration that might arise or the absence of vibration. Perception: Perception is the conscious sensing and interpretation of different vibrations. You must have awareness in order to perceive. You must have awareness in order to sense and interpret vibrations. All of reality is made up of vibrations. JB |
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Where do amoebas fit into that?
They most certainly perceive, but are not aware.
To perceive, the perceiver must be consciously sensing? I find so much trouble equating this to the obvious. What then is the difference between awareness and self-awareness? |
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Is this an ever decreasing circle thing?
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