right on my dear Sister Tiffany


I am proud of you for not backing down...

to the onslaught of attack...


but...they are so predictable


and we are fully prepared...




I am going to go out for a while ,


so i just wanted to let you know....


Take Care And God Bless You, Dear...


and keep fighting the good fight


Love and Light & Blessings to you ....

God bless you too my friend

This is the love of god??? This is how Jesus said to treat fellow man???

Romans 2

1Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

2But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.

3And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

Galatians 5:14
For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, " YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF."

Galatians 5:22, 5:23, 5:24, 5:25, 5:26
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love , joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness , faithfulness,

23 gentleness, self-control ; against such things there is no law.

24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.

26Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another.

hi karma - you forgot " If I be lifted up - I will draw all men unto me." - not much of that going on here - huh??? They are their own worst enemies - not me

WOW!!

i hope everyone who is searching their mind's about whether or not to possibly try christianity, becuase of what you say is true of love,forgiveness,acceptence of other's sin's, mercy,justice,and all else your christ teaches, reads this post over and over, you've just made a better case for "NOT" ever even thinking about the truth you hold so dear and high in your christian way's and ideals - ""i could never have come close to showing christians intent's as much as you have stated in this thread"" - thank you so much - may this continue to lead people away from the things you call or consider "light" - no offense to Jesus, or god, just to those who think in their remarks that in some way any outsider wanting to find out more about christians and there ways really are in "real" life. You prove the history of why so many blood thirsty holier than thou war's have been unjustly fought by "christian's" throughout history and the action's of those who brought about the inqisition."Never have so many in the name of monotheism - proven themselves so wrong, keep up the good work, keep posting this is like incredibly great!!!!!

most sincerely - a non believer




I am not trying to convert you. You can go to $!ell for all I care.


just like the energizer bunny - it keep going and going and going---------------- and the hole get's - deeper and deeper and deeper-------------------------- thnx TR - your the bestest!!!

Why not also ask the question

Who has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ....


answer:


YES


Him and Him alone....knows my heart, knows my path, and protects me along the way......

Hi ZW nice to see ya again, karma - thoughtful responces,
JB - nice control.

In the real world guns are available, I wonder who would possess them here??

I know I sure don't. Man, I am away for a few days and I miss all this? Tribo!! What have you let happen my friend?!?

I honestly can't imagine that Jesus or the God that some of these people try to say are watching over us and teaching love, tolerance, patience, and understanding would approve of some of the horrible things being said in this thread by the people that follow that message. So much anger in this thread.

And Rapunzel?? I don't think I have ever seen you in a battle stance. You are usually one of the voices for peace and everyone getting along on these forums. I am way confused here.

Oh well, Just wanted to stop by and say hey to Tribo! as well as JB and Redykeulous. Keep up the good information guys and I will jump back into the fray later if this stuff keeps up after I have a chance to go back and read everything that was said.

hahaha i was not even to that point yet - it would have surely been asked after i found out who was like me in my expieriece and like belushi in his expierience and so forth i was not going to leave anyone out - i was just never given the chance to get that far before being told how demonic i was being people fearing i'm going to soehow destroy their children?? calling me names?? all because i ask a question and "state" i was not wanting any debate or discussin to begin with that should have been settled when cherub made her question to me and by my reponse to her - she got it - none of the other's did??????
i guess i read the title of the forum wrong?? i thought it said "RELIGIOUS" forum?? not "CHRISTIAN" religion forum??

bottom line is this - you have shown your true colors as to how you act and are when faced with something you think is threatning your coveted belief system - but if i had a set belief system - i would not be bothered by anyone questioning or asking any questions about it or really care if they believed or not in my beliefs - i never try to "suck people into my way of thinking" if that scares you - then i would ask myself - why does that scare me?? Where is this "faith" that you hold so tightly to? where is the knowledge you are so surely convinced of? where is the "peace" your supposed to have inside you ?? what good does your belief system afford you if all you can do is to finally telll me to go to hell a place i dont believe exist? as i have stated this posting which started out with a question has turned into the " abosolutely best thread that could have been - to show new comer's - an "INSIDE" look at how "god's chosen people of the bible" behave!!

apologises not wanted or accepted - if i cannot ask questions of my choice or desires then any such attempts are mute.i dont have to forgive - i'n not under your self imposed christian laws or creeds =

I would never say demonic of you sweet tribo......And how I made any reponse to this being anything but a religion forum. But see this is where my confusion is. The Christians its easy to spot us in the religion forums. I once did a thread called.......Religion aside I want to know your belifs and get to know you as a fellow human being. But see this is where the strife is....because can most say the same thing. I don't judge never have....but time after time I am accused of just that. Or it is without warrant brought to my attention that it is a "religious forms not a Christian forum" why is that....Have I ever been anything but kind to you....Have I said anything that would lead you to believe that I feel your entitled to believe as you wish. I would be very interested to hear exactly what it is you do believe.

I also find it rather interesting that all the people that were Christians, and who fell away....did so because of selfish reasons...or that God didn't do things on their terms....I say this also alot...why is it that when peoples lives are all hunky dory that they don't thank God, but when life is hell or hard they blame God first...

And exactly in your opinion tribo what are my true colors....how do you people think you know all of who I am in such a short time. None of you COULD EVER be a threat to me in any way, shape or form. Again if your going to ask a Christian aa question then expect to get a Christian answer, because it would look mighty silly for me to give you a muslim answer no wouldn't it.

I would like one of you to prove at anytime where I have "sucked people into my way of thinking. Look at it this way, you come in and say what you want....and I come in and say what I want. I leave it up to the good people of JSH to take the information and do as they see fit. I have never once told anyone to believe me or die......

Sweetpea I have never once told you to go to hell or forced any of my beliefs down your throat....You have accused me of stealing, accused me of shoving my beliefs down peoples throat and much more....Again I say to you tribo.....please be careful when casting that first stone.....and before you shove that spliter in my eye, you should take the log out of yours.

When I said aplogies were not needed.....I meant what I said....and said what I meant....and you can turn around and throw that in my face......wow

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what are you talking about what i said had nothing to do with you ??? your response here don't make sense - your crazy women - ill go back and check your post here but i dont off hand remembering anything your talking about or are you talking about other post we've talked in?? if so - i'm strictly talking of what's been going on in this one feral - get back explain what im askin g please

ok as i thought - this is your 1st post on this thread - nothing here was aimed at you or anything we discussed either privately or publically!! you may be christian but outside that your not - so far - part of the hate in this thread - keep it that way plese

it was a direct quote of mine...and then your response how could I take it any other way......

Feral, you have never engaged in hateful posting that I have seen. There is no need to think Tribo's comments were directed at you. You are a good example for your faith.

JB

Thank you JB I love you major sweets......and when are you off to Hawaii.....gigglesnort.

Feral,

Look..."Gigglesnort Hotel" was a great show, but why do you have to bring it up in every post?

feral, now i think i understand - you poted right here at the end and i was not thinking of you with my response after that i was talking only about what had been in the thread so far you stepped in out of nowhere - my apologies on that - the statement that folowed was maent only for those who had been participating all along - not you - you know i amy argue or discuss or debate with you and you know i can "find" my temper also - but you also know i have privately apologized to you for my remarks on the baby in hand pic you used - were are settled - am not sugestting at all that you are cupable of my remarks here of what has been going on with others - i am not that way!! all of my remarks have been to those who take my thread and make it their own agenda to shine god's christian light unto the world in what i consider a most true and historical way of showing contemt for what they consider to be a bigoted, demon who should descend back to hell from which i came - so that their useless faith can shine bright amongst them selves - read all and you may understand my frustration with the so called loving defender's of god's truth havev written and why i respons so back to them - noy you - we will alway's agree to disagree whether in love or anger - but NO - you have never accused me of anything nor played the fool as has happened here -

feralcatlady quote:

I also find it rather interesting that all the people that were Christians, and who fell away....did so because of selfish reasons...or that God didn't do things on their terms....I say this also alot...why is it that when peoples lives are all hunky dory that they don't thank God, but when life is hell or hard they blame God first..."


TRIBO:
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I can't answer the last part of your question feral - but no - i did not fall away because my life was good or miserable - in fact i didn't "fall away". I quit believing in the source as outlined in the bible - the god of the bible is based (in my opinion) on a higher being that has emotion's, and i donot believe a "higher being" would have or need emotion's nor would he bestow upon a lower creation these thing's and think that they would not use them in a selfish way. That sound's to me like a set up for failure.If a higher spiritual being does have human like emotion's then i deduced it was not a being i wanted any part of - no lasting good was going to come from a tempermental, jealous,angry,self centered god, nor would it be possible.
I believe that there is a creative force whom i choose to call god for sake of ease of conversation. A god that does not interfere with the daily lives of that which it created.in that sense and that sense only i believe in diesm, no other diest thoughts or teachings apply, first and formost i am a truist - as seen by those who look for truth or search for truth - not from outside sources but from within - all my truth's may not be found to be universal truth's - but you can know no one but yourself first and when you do it is fairly easy to see mankind as a whole from what you know to be true about yourself - fact is i / we are the onlything we can know for sure - we are the only thing we have any - " inside " information on period - everything else is just science, conjecture, theory, etc.. thus my comment's in the book of truth's - my original posting's here wetre done because i see and continue to see all kinds of misuse or biblical verses spewn forth out of context without knowledge and used to uphold a belief that they themselves i believe have not delved into studying themselves. you can neither confirm or reject something you have not thuroughly studied as being "the Truth" if you do your just taking education as the belief, you also cannot take emotional expieriences as any proof of your belief, that is not proof of anything but the fact that you have emotional things takeing place which could and do change in a split second.how many times have you seen someone crying and laughing one right after another?? my point! you cannot depend on "faith" in a being that cannot be proved in a way that makes sense to you - And the bible god makes no sense to me and many other's here or elsewhere.
pauls plea to belivers is - to me - no more than asking one to suspend the given created power to reason and think and use common sense and accept for a fact that "faith is all you need - it is also the same mistake luther use's in his writing's in stating faith without works is dead, we all have faith in something and i do take things that claim to be less than perfect or to be deemed a god on faith every day - but when it comes to an almighty all powerful entity, with emotions and forgrtfulness, and repenting of "mistakes", changing his mind about things, acting like a human would??? NO!
your god is to small for me or anyone else with a correctly functioning brain. "he hides these things from the proud and arrogant and reveals them to humble" no - man does that not god - this is not about pride or ego - as i said i have seqrched myself more than most and for a longer time - i donot speak from pride or ego - i speak from knowing myself and who and what mankind is at his core - and he has invented a god in his own image to worship. i could come up with a better more powerful god that people would believe in than that one you hold so dear and close to your heart, but that would be just another folly not worth my or anyonme elses time accept those who practice deceit as a life style.

I didn't 'fall away' because god didn't do things on my terms or because 'things got hard'. I stopped because I saw the inconsistencies in the Bible. I found that I couldn't believe it.
I also found a complete lack of understanding and even ridicule for other's beliefs. Something which went against the grain with me. I simply felt more 'comfortable', more myself with my previous / current beliefs.