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Topic: Is the pentagram used only for devil worship?
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Fri 05/16/08 12:23 PM



flowerforyou Anton Levey was a Scientologist flowerforyou

flowerforyou The "Satanic" group he started is a jokeflowerforyou

flowerforyou According to the Church of Scientology files he is considered an Operating Thetan flowerforyou


WOW...I am feeling so ignorant today...but learning so much....Please give me a brief discription of Scientoloty...the only thing I know about it is that it is the "religion" that Tom Cruise is.

AND I am still curious to know the differance between a "Satanist" and an "Athiest" if neither believe in God or Devil.


glasses Levey was a Scientologist.glasses

glasses And much like other early Scientologistsglasses

glasses he formed his own groupglasses

flowerforyou Its doubtful that Levey even believed in the devil as you know itflowerforyou


Ok I think I am starting to understand....correct me if I am wrong...

LeVey started his own group called "Satanist" or the "The Church of Satan". Even though they are called "The Church of Satan" they do not believe in God or the Devil. It was just named that out of LeVey's sense of humor and rebellion from "Christians" and their misguided BELIEF that any worship outside of Christianity is Pegan worship and therefore "Satan" worship. However, a "Satanist" viewpoint or belief system would be similar to a "Scientologist"....and an athiest does not believe in a higher power...am I correct so far?

Do Scientologists believe in a higher power?

Again.....What is a Thetan?


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Fri 05/16/08 12:39 PM
Read a book called dionetics by L Ron Hubbard to find out about scientology

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Fri 05/16/08 12:45 PM




flowerforyou Anton Levey was a Scientologist flowerforyou

flowerforyou The "Satanic" group he started is a jokeflowerforyou

flowerforyou According to the Church of Scientology files he is considered an Operating Thetan flowerforyou


WOW...I am feeling so ignorant today...but learning so much....Please give me a brief discription of Scientoloty...the only thing I know about it is that it is the "religion" that Tom Cruise is.

AND I am still curious to know the differance between a "Satanist" and an "Athiest" if neither believe in God or Devil.


glasses Levey was a Scientologist.glasses

glasses And much like other early Scientologistsglasses

glasses he formed his own groupglasses

flowerforyou Its doubtful that Levey even believed in the devil as you know itflowerforyou


Ok I think I am starting to understand....correct me if I am wrong...

LeVey started his own group called "Satanist" or the "The Church of Satan". Even though they are called "The Church of Satan" they do not believe in God or the Devil. It was just named that out of LeVey's sense of humor and rebellion from "Christians" and their misguided BELIEF that any worship outside of Christianity is Pegan worship and therefore "Satan" worship. However, a "Satanist" viewpoint or belief system would be similar to a "Scientologist"....and an athiest does not believe in a higher power...am I correct so far?

Do Scientologists believe in a higher power?

Again.....What is a Thetan?


In a nutshell, Scientology teaches that all humans descended from a race of uncreated, omnipotent gods called Thetans, who gave up their powers to enter the Material-Energy-Space-Time (MEST) world of Earth. [Hubbard's Dianetics and Scientology: Technical Dictionary explains, "The Thetan is immortal and is possessed of capabilities well in excess of those hitherto predicted for man. In the final analysis what is this thing called Thetan? It is simply you before you mocked yourself up and that is the handiest definition I know of" (p. 432). The Thetan is thus that part of each individual which is immortal and which has become contaminated or debased by the influences of MEST.] Gradually, they evolved upward by reincarnation to become humans who could not remember their deified state. Scientologists are encouraged to awaken their dormant Thetan potential by removing all mental blocks called engrams. By doing so, they can realize their true personhood, achieving total power and control over MEST. Scientology offers a psychotherapeutic process for breaking through the engrams "picked up from traumas in prior lives," to "realize" once again one's true identity as an "operating Thetan" (God) beyond the limitations of MEST

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Fri 05/16/08 12:50 PM
Thank you Mirrorflowerforyou

cherub_girl's photo
Fri 05/16/08 12:53 PM
Did I have the "Satanist"/"Scientologist"/"Athiest" thing right?

Just want to make sure I understand.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/16/08 01:00 PM

Did I have the "Satanist"/"Scientologist"/"Athiest" thing right?

Just want to make sure I understand.
flowerforyou In Scientology, Satan is merely an engramflowerforyou

flowerforyou You must understand that in Scientology it is not unethical or immoral to lie and deceive non-believersflowerforyou

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Fri 05/16/08 01:04 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 05/16/08 01:20 PM


Did I have the "Satanist"/"Scientologist"/"Athiest" thing right?

Just want to make sure I understand.
flowerforyou In Scientology, Satan is merely an engramflowerforyou

flowerforyou You must understand that in Scientology it is not unethical or immoral to lie and deceive non-believersflowerforyou



That's because they can't handle the truth. LOL

Seriously, the lie is part of the game of life. If everyone knew the truth, there would be no games, no life.

JB

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Fri 05/16/08 01:07 PM
flowerforyou Scientology has a code of ethics like any other religion but for the most part they do not apply to non-Scientologists (S.P.s)flowerforyou

cherub_girl's photo
Fri 05/16/08 01:10 PM
So life is just a game of lies?

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/16/08 01:15 PM

So life is just a game of lies?
noway No waynoway

noway I didnt say thatnoway

cherub_girl's photo
Fri 05/16/08 01:18 PM
No Mirror, I was speaking to Jeannie.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/16/08 01:22 PM

No Mirror, I was speaking to Jeannie.
flowerforyou

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Fri 05/16/08 01:24 PM

So life is just a game of lies?


Yes, pretty much.

As a pantheist, I believe that God is all, and that God plays a hide and seek game with Itself.

God splits and creates new identities and hides the truth that all is one so that It can play the game of life.

Life is a game of puzzles and creations. It is about creation and exploring and experiencing and seeking.

That is what makes it interesting, instead of boring.

JB

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Fri 05/16/08 01:41 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Fri 05/16/08 01:41 PM
flowerforyou As a Scientologist, Levey was mocking the concept of the Devilflowerforyou

flowerforyou While making money and fame off of the poor morons who think they are worshiping the devilflowerforyou

flowerforyou Basically a clown flowerforyou


cherub_girl's photo
Fri 05/16/08 01:46 PM


So life is just a game of lies?


Yes, pretty much.

As a pantheist, I believe that God is all, and that God plays a hide and seek game with Itself.

God splits and creates new identities and hides the truth that all is one so that It can play the game of life.

Life is a game of puzzles and creations. It is about creation and exploring and experiencing and seeking.

That is what makes it interesting, instead of boring.

JB


Interesting concept. I will try to wrap my mind around that one and ask questions later. Even though I am very strong in my own personal beliefs, I find other points of view very interesting.

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