Topic: I HAVE A 13 YR. OLD AND NEED HELP
docburneraz's photo
Thu 05/15/08 10:46 AM
Rank E4:wink:

robert1652's photo
Thu 05/15/08 10:47 AM



I have no respect for the clueless:wink:

I appreciate your sentiment however regardless we should lead by example and not loose respect . The power of reason is far greater than negative replies.Police officers whether we like them or not are essential part of the society, if we need to go about our business in relative safety. Only the approach is incorrect, For example UK police does not carry guns as a matter of principle and we don't have dead cops all over the place. I hope I am demonstrating the point. I am sure you will agree:smile:


the UK police not carrying guns is actually no longer true. due to the world we live in today and the recent attacks, they now carry. its been maybe 1-2 years since that began

Only SWOT teams I am a UK citizen and every 6 months regularly visit your statement is not correct. The police beat in the street is still on Bicycles, and are called the local Bobbies and then have a truncheon which now has a tazer? I believe. The Swot teams are now armed of course. Totally misinformed you are Sir

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Thu 05/15/08 10:51 AM




I have no respect for the clueless:wink:

I appreciate your sentiment however regardless we should lead by example and not loose respect . The power of reason is far greater than negative replies.Police officers whether we like them or not are essential part of the society, if we need to go about our business in relative safety. Only the approach is incorrect, For example UK police does not carry guns as a matter of principle and we don't have dead cops all over the place. I hope I am demonstrating the point. I am sure you will agree:smile:


the UK police not carrying guns is actually no longer true. due to the world we live in today and the recent attacks, they now carry. its been maybe 1-2 years since that began

Only SWOT teams I am a UK citizen and every 6 months regularly visit your statement is not correct. The police beat in the street is still on Bicycles, and are called the local Bobbies and then have a truncheon which now has a tazer? I believe. The Swot teams are now armed of course. Totally misinformed you are Sir


same diff. isnt it? the SWOT team are still ARMED POLICE tho right? maybe i am misinformed....but ok w/e

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Thu 05/15/08 10:52 AM













I HAVE A 13 YR OLD GIRL THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL. SHE HAS BEEN SUSPENDED FROM SCHOOL SEVERAL TIMES THIS YEAR, BEEN LOCKED UP IN JUVY OVERNIGHT, AND CONSTANTLY CUSSES ME AND HER MAMAW OUT. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING I KNOW OF TO GET HER TO GET CONTROL OF HER ACTIONS. SHE IS CURRENTLY ON MEDICATION FOR HER ANGER ISSUES AND SHE IS ON PROBATION. WHAT CAN A SINGLE MOTHER OF 3 DO? I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IS GOING ON IN HER MIND. SHE WONT TALK TO ME AND I AM DEVASTATED ABOUT ALL THIS.

I DONT WANT HER BROTHERS TO END UP LIKE THE WAY SHE IS RIGHT NOW. I TELL MY SONS NOT TO ACT LIKE THEIR SISTER BUT HER TWIN BROTHER IS STARTING TO ACT OUT. I CAUGHT HIM SMOKING CIGS YESTERDAY AND I REALLY BLEW A FUSE THEN.

CAN ANYONE GIVE ME SOME SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT I SHOULD DO? I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

These issues are most of the time dealt with therapy sessions. There are many places that they will take you on and subject to your ability to pay wil charge a fee but the agreements are that normally if you miss 2 sessions they will dismiss you. Bear that in mind
As for the issues the anger may be about a missing parent who possibly left abruptly never to return or death of a parent which causes the anxiety.
It may also be due to ADHT which needs expeert for diagnosys.

So 1st step seek counceling and then try to make sure it is not HDT or ADHT



im sorry but all that add adhd abde efgh is all horse crap. adhd is a kid raised by a parent who spoils their kid and lets them get away with way to much, beat her ass, ull see what happens

People like you make this world a very colourful place to live
I guess your colour is dark brown.laugh laugh laugh laugh


i prefer a dark blue, maybe black... but its true, and i bet the parents of kids who dont act out would agree. its a sad but true fact that kids now adays act as if they themselves are the parents


refering to violence as a problem solving technique for a child by a police officer!! makes me ill...sick sick



its something i agree with totally tho. kids should understand they are not the parents andare not in charge. thats my POV. everyone has a diff. one but thats mine

I guess thats why you are a police officer and you handle things they way you see it fit as per your training. I have no problem accepting that the society requires individuals like you . There is no doubt. But we don't use a sledge hammer to crack a nut. Unfortunately the system does and you also instead of being part of a solution become part of a problem:cry:


my biggest point on the whole matter i guess is this....ill lay it out (not trying to make excuses but idk...) i was raised by the iron fist of my parents, grew up on honorroll, joined the USMC, and am now already a cop and almost finished college. my sister on the other hand was almost 18, was raised getting what she wants when she wants it and she has been arrested 4 times and got pregnant once then last december was found ODed on heroin. so i guess my outlook on it is that if you stop them by changing to the way i grew up, we wont lose another precious child to ways we lost my sister...


It is so regrettable that you have endured such trauma. I only can sympathize with you. I also admire you for having come through the ranks and made it to become an absolute essential part of our society. I know I have had a tough childhood but not as drastic as yours so I may not be able to imagine the level of pain. However I know one thing. I don't pass the hurt to others . I don't for one minute suggest that you do, but your writing provides me enough to feel that you may. I strongly urge you that to deal with every day stresses to use the services of a therapist and before you reject the matter out of hand I have no problem to say that I do and I believe I am a better person than I used to be.



see tho, i dont agree with violence in any way. im not saying beat the child with a baseball bat or anything, im saying a simple spanking to remind the child who the mother is, i dont go around hitting people for no reason or anything like that..


there is a problem with spanking let me show you
I am the child I do something. I fear spanking. If I don't get spanking I have no idea how much it would hurt
Are you with me?

Then we start spanking. The child experiences that, and thinks "Oh is that what it was?" so he has no fear so you continue. The punishment has lost its effect. Then you take it one notch up then what happens child gets used to higher level of pain. Gradually the level gets so high it becomes abuse. Yet if the treat was left there with the unknown undiscovered it would have had a better chance of success.


so i should thank my dad for my great fighting career? bigsmile joking, i know, uncalled ofr but eh but on a serious note, i hope the TS can get the help and guidance she needs

I also thank you for the devils advocate role. it raised a few issues that really are ills of our modern yet primitive society.
Wish you success sir.

docburneraz's photo
Thu 05/15/08 10:52 AM
Honesty is given freely. Respect is earned.

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Thu 05/15/08 10:53 AM

Rank E4:wink:


Outstanding Marine! I myself was an E4 MP tho, 18 months in iraq

docburneraz's photo
Thu 05/15/08 10:54 AM


Rank E4:wink:


Outstanding Marine! I myself was an E4 MP tho, 18 months in iraq
OOOrahdrinker

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Thu 05/15/08 10:55 AM














I HAVE A 13 YR OLD GIRL THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL. SHE HAS BEEN SUSPENDED FROM SCHOOL SEVERAL TIMES THIS YEAR, BEEN LOCKED UP IN JUVY OVERNIGHT, AND CONSTANTLY CUSSES ME AND HER MAMAW OUT. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING I KNOW OF TO GET HER TO GET CONTROL OF HER ACTIONS. SHE IS CURRENTLY ON MEDICATION FOR HER ANGER ISSUES AND SHE IS ON PROBATION. WHAT CAN A SINGLE MOTHER OF 3 DO? I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IS GOING ON IN HER MIND. SHE WONT TALK TO ME AND I AM DEVASTATED ABOUT ALL THIS.

I DONT WANT HER BROTHERS TO END UP LIKE THE WAY SHE IS RIGHT NOW. I TELL MY SONS NOT TO ACT LIKE THEIR SISTER BUT HER TWIN BROTHER IS STARTING TO ACT OUT. I CAUGHT HIM SMOKING CIGS YESTERDAY AND I REALLY BLEW A FUSE THEN.

CAN ANYONE GIVE ME SOME SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT I SHOULD DO? I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

These issues are most of the time dealt with therapy sessions. There are many places that they will take you on and subject to your ability to pay wil charge a fee but the agreements are that normally if you miss 2 sessions they will dismiss you. Bear that in mind
As for the issues the anger may be about a missing parent who possibly left abruptly never to return or death of a parent which causes the anxiety.
It may also be due to ADHT which needs expeert for diagnosys.

So 1st step seek counceling and then try to make sure it is not HDT or ADHT



im sorry but all that add adhd abde efgh is all horse crap. adhd is a kid raised by a parent who spoils their kid and lets them get away with way to much, beat her ass, ull see what happens

People like you make this world a very colourful place to live
I guess your colour is dark brown.laugh laugh laugh laugh


i prefer a dark blue, maybe black... but its true, and i bet the parents of kids who dont act out would agree. its a sad but true fact that kids now adays act as if they themselves are the parents


refering to violence as a problem solving technique for a child by a police officer!! makes me ill...sick sick



its something i agree with totally tho. kids should understand they are not the parents andare not in charge. thats my POV. everyone has a diff. one but thats mine

I guess thats why you are a police officer and you handle things they way you see it fit as per your training. I have no problem accepting that the society requires individuals like you . There is no doubt. But we don't use a sledge hammer to crack a nut. Unfortunately the system does and you also instead of being part of a solution become part of a problem:cry:


my biggest point on the whole matter i guess is this....ill lay it out (not trying to make excuses but idk...) i was raised by the iron fist of my parents, grew up on honorroll, joined the USMC, and am now already a cop and almost finished college. my sister on the other hand was almost 18, was raised getting what she wants when she wants it and she has been arrested 4 times and got pregnant once then last december was found ODed on heroin. so i guess my outlook on it is that if you stop them by changing to the way i grew up, we wont lose another precious child to ways we lost my sister...


It is so regrettable that you have endured such trauma. I only can sympathize with you. I also admire you for having come through the ranks and made it to become an absolute essential part of our society. I know I have had a tough childhood but not as drastic as yours so I may not be able to imagine the level of pain. However I know one thing. I don't pass the hurt to others . I don't for one minute suggest that you do, but your writing provides me enough to feel that you may. I strongly urge you that to deal with every day stresses to use the services of a therapist and before you reject the matter out of hand I have no problem to say that I do and I believe I am a better person than I used to be.



see tho, i dont agree with violence in any way. im not saying beat the child with a baseball bat or anything, im saying a simple spanking to remind the child who the mother is, i dont go around hitting people for no reason or anything like that..


there is a problem with spanking let me show you
I am the child I do something. I fear spanking. If I don't get spanking I have no idea how much it would hurt
Are you with me?

Then we start spanking. The child experiences that, and thinks "Oh is that what it was?" so he has no fear so you continue. The punishment has lost its effect. Then you take it one notch up then what happens child gets used to higher level of pain. Gradually the level gets so high it becomes abuse. Yet if the treat was left there with the unknown undiscovered it would have had a better chance of success.


so i should thank my dad for my great fighting career? bigsmile joking, i know, uncalled ofr but eh but on a serious note, i hope the TS can get the help and guidance she needs

I also thank you for the devils advocate role. it raised a few issues that really are ills of our modern yet primitive society.
Wish you success sir.

no matter what game we play in life....someones gotta play the fool to bring around the arguments!bigsmile And i will admit wholeheartedly i respect you for not lowering yourself to cursing and so on. we shall talk againdrinker

robert1652's photo
Thu 05/15/08 10:57 AM

Honesty is given freely. Respect is earned.

and I want to agree with you though wouldn't it be better said
"respect is earned and in order for you to gain the respect of the community you serve you need to revise your way of thinking"

A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go downlaugh laugh laugh

robert1652's photo
Thu 05/15/08 10:58 AM















I HAVE A 13 YR OLD GIRL THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL. SHE HAS BEEN SUSPENDED FROM SCHOOL SEVERAL TIMES THIS YEAR, BEEN LOCKED UP IN JUVY OVERNIGHT, AND CONSTANTLY CUSSES ME AND HER MAMAW OUT. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING I KNOW OF TO GET HER TO GET CONTROL OF HER ACTIONS. SHE IS CURRENTLY ON MEDICATION FOR HER ANGER ISSUES AND SHE IS ON PROBATION. WHAT CAN A SINGLE MOTHER OF 3 DO? I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IS GOING ON IN HER MIND. SHE WONT TALK TO ME AND I AM DEVASTATED ABOUT ALL THIS.

I DONT WANT HER BROTHERS TO END UP LIKE THE WAY SHE IS RIGHT NOW. I TELL MY SONS NOT TO ACT LIKE THEIR SISTER BUT HER TWIN BROTHER IS STARTING TO ACT OUT. I CAUGHT HIM SMOKING CIGS YESTERDAY AND I REALLY BLEW A FUSE THEN.

CAN ANYONE GIVE ME SOME SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT I SHOULD DO? I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

These issues are most of the time dealt with therapy sessions. There are many places that they will take you on and subject to your ability to pay wil charge a fee but the agreements are that normally if you miss 2 sessions they will dismiss you. Bear that in mind
As for the issues the anger may be about a missing parent who possibly left abruptly never to return or death of a parent which causes the anxiety.
It may also be due to ADHT which needs expeert for diagnosys.

So 1st step seek counceling and then try to make sure it is not HDT or ADHT



im sorry but all that add adhd abde efgh is all horse crap. adhd is a kid raised by a parent who spoils their kid and lets them get away with way to much, beat her ass, ull see what happens

People like you make this world a very colourful place to live
I guess your colour is dark brown.laugh laugh laugh laugh


i prefer a dark blue, maybe black... but its true, and i bet the parents of kids who dont act out would agree. its a sad but true fact that kids now adays act as if they themselves are the parents


refering to violence as a problem solving technique for a child by a police officer!! makes me ill...sick sick



its something i agree with totally tho. kids should understand they are not the parents andare not in charge. thats my POV. everyone has a diff. one but thats mine

I guess thats why you are a police officer and you handle things they way you see it fit as per your training. I have no problem accepting that the society requires individuals like you . There is no doubt. But we don't use a sledge hammer to crack a nut. Unfortunately the system does and you also instead of being part of a solution become part of a problem:cry:


my biggest point on the whole matter i guess is this....ill lay it out (not trying to make excuses but idk...) i was raised by the iron fist of my parents, grew up on honorroll, joined the USMC, and am now already a cop and almost finished college. my sister on the other hand was almost 18, was raised getting what she wants when she wants it and she has been arrested 4 times and got pregnant once then last december was found ODed on heroin. so i guess my outlook on it is that if you stop them by changing to the way i grew up, we wont lose another precious child to ways we lost my sister...


It is so regrettable that you have endured such trauma. I only can sympathize with you. I also admire you for having come through the ranks and made it to become an absolute essential part of our society. I know I have had a tough childhood but not as drastic as yours so I may not be able to imagine the level of pain. However I know one thing. I don't pass the hurt to others . I don't for one minute suggest that you do, but your writing provides me enough to feel that you may. I strongly urge you that to deal with every day stresses to use the services of a therapist and before you reject the matter out of hand I have no problem to say that I do and I believe I am a better person than I used to be.



see tho, i dont agree with violence in any way. im not saying beat the child with a baseball bat or anything, im saying a simple spanking to remind the child who the mother is, i dont go around hitting people for no reason or anything like that..


there is a problem with spanking let me show you
I am the child I do something. I fear spanking. If I don't get spanking I have no idea how much it would hurt
Are you with me?

Then we start spanking. The child experiences that, and thinks "Oh is that what it was?" so he has no fear so you continue. The punishment has lost its effect. Then you take it one notch up then what happens child gets used to higher level of pain. Gradually the level gets so high it becomes abuse. Yet if the treat was left there with the unknown undiscovered it would have had a better chance of success.


so i should thank my dad for my great fighting career? bigsmile joking, i know, uncalled ofr but eh but on a serious note, i hope the TS can get the help and guidance she needs

I also thank you for the devils advocate role. it raised a few issues that really are ills of our modern yet primitive society.
Wish you success sir.

no matter what game we play in life....someones gotta play the fool to bring around the arguments!bigsmile And i will admit wholeheartedly i respect you for not lowering yourself to cursing and so on. we shall talk againdrinker

Sir like I said the power of English Language

robert1652's photo
Thu 05/15/08 11:07 AM





I have no respect for the clueless:wink:

I appreciate your sentiment however regardless we should lead by example and not loose respect . The power of reason is far greater than negative replies.Police officers whether we like them or not are essential part of the society, if we need to go about our business in relative safety. Only the approach is incorrect, For example UK police does not carry guns as a matter of principle and we don't have dead cops all over the place. I hope I am demonstrating the point. I am sure you will agree:smile:


the UK police not carrying guns is actually no longer true. due to the world we live in today and the recent attacks, they now carry. its been maybe 1-2 years since that began

Only SWOT teams I am a UK citizen and every 6 months regularly visit your statement is not correct. The police beat in the street is still on Bicycles, and are called the local Bobbies and then have a truncheon which now has a tazer? I believe. The Swot teams are now armed of course. Totally misinformed you are Sir


same diff. isnt it? the SWOT team are still ARMED POLICE tho right? maybe i am misinformed....but ok w/e

No it is not . Though they are part of the police force they are only deployed at times of need you will never see them in the street patrolling. In the police cars none are armed during daily activities . For that sir we have the lowest dead cops in the streets relative to population of 70 million.
I have no comment for the W/e. I guess that is a local abreviation.

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Thu 05/15/08 11:09 AM
W/e means whatever. Ok im off to the barber. Gonna get high and stupid just for you Devil Dog. Semp

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Thu 05/15/08 11:24 AM

W/e means whatever. Ok im off to the barber. Gonna get high and stupid just for you Devil Dog. Semp

high and stupid yea baby Semper Fi mack

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Thu 05/15/08 12:15 PM

your 32....she is 13.....your HER MOTHER. fix the problem the old fashion way. beat her bratty little butt and lock her in her room. seriously if people have kids, KNOW HOW TO RAISE THEM. take a little responsability and take charge, dont take crap from a friggin THIRTEEN YEAR OLD CHILD!

seriously, if i breathed the wrong way when i was younger my mom wuld go foot to ass on me, then id have to wait in my room for my dad who would then also correct me. kids get away with so much bull**** because parents are SOFT

and forget all the high priced couseling and drs and meds and ****, a nice helping of foot to ass will be more then enough medication


I knew I liked you :heart:

my mother mastered the look, there was no need to get physical with us... that look that told you, you're in deep sh!t... lmaooooooo

I mastered it as well :heart:
here's to mom drinker

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Thu 05/15/08 12:24 PM


your 32....she is 13.....your HER MOTHER. fix the problem the old fashion way. beat her bratty little butt and lock her in her room. seriously if people have kids, KNOW HOW TO RAISE THEM. take a little responsability and take charge, dont take crap from a friggin THIRTEEN YEAR OLD CHILD!

seriously, if i breathed the wrong way when i was younger my mom wuld go foot to ass on me, then id have to wait in my room for my dad who would then also correct me. kids get away with so much bull**** because parents are SOFT

and forget all the high priced couseling and drs and meds and ****, a nice helping of foot to ass will be more then enough medication


I knew I liked you :heart:

my mother mastered the look, there was no need to get physical with us... that look that told you, you're in deep sh!t... lmaooooooo

I mastered it as well :heart:
here's to mom drinker


I agree, my little sister was well on her way to where your daughter is. Bur mom gave her up to me at the age of 14, and I laid down the law and I am proud to say, on Sunday she will be graduating with honors and a full ride to U of Iowa

franshade's photo
Thu 05/15/08 12:26 PM



your 32....she is 13.....your HER MOTHER. fix the problem the old fashion way. beat her bratty little butt and lock her in her room. seriously if people have kids, KNOW HOW TO RAISE THEM. take a little responsability and take charge, dont take crap from a friggin THIRTEEN YEAR OLD CHILD!

seriously, if i breathed the wrong way when i was younger my mom wuld go foot to ass on me, then id have to wait in my room for my dad who would then also correct me. kids get away with so much bull**** because parents are SOFT

and forget all the high priced couseling and drs and meds and ****, a nice helping of foot to ass will be more then enough medication


I knew I liked you :heart:

my mother mastered the look, there was no need to get physical with us... that look that told you, you're in deep sh!t... lmaooooooo

I mastered it as well :heart:
here's to mom drinker


I agree, my little sister was well on her way to where your daughter is. Bur mom gave her up to me at the age of 14, and I laid down the law and I am proud to say, on Sunday she will be graduating with honors and a full ride to U of Iowa


wtgggggg congrats flowerforyou drinker flowerforyou drinker

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Thu 05/15/08 12:37 PM


W/e means whatever. Ok im off to the barber. Gonna get high and stupid just for you Devil Dog. Semp

high and stupid yea baby Semper Fi mack

Marines are just Navy wanna be's.

beachbum069's photo
Thu 05/15/08 12:40 PM



your 32....she is 13.....your HER MOTHER. fix the problem the old fashion way. beat her bratty little butt and lock her in her room. seriously if people have kids, KNOW HOW TO RAISE THEM. take a little responsability and take charge, dont take crap from a friggin THIRTEEN YEAR OLD CHILD!

seriously, if i breathed the wrong way when i was younger my mom wuld go foot to ass on me, then id have to wait in my room for my dad who would then also correct me. kids get away with so much bull**** because parents are SOFT

and forget all the high priced couseling and drs and meds and ****, a nice helping of foot to ass will be more then enough medication


I knew I liked you :heart:

my mother mastered the look, there was no need to get physical with us... that look that told you, you're in deep sh!t... lmaooooooo

I mastered it as well :heart:
here's to mom drinker


I agree, my little sister was well on her way to where your daughter is. Bur mom gave her up to me at the age of 14, and I laid down the law and I am proud to say, on Sunday she will be graduating with honors and a full ride to U of Iowa

WTG. My cousin's mom was a drug dealing prostitute and actually abandoned him at his uncles house. He has severe weight issues and emotional problems, but he graduates next month and has a 3.2 GPA after many years of tough love.

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Thu 05/15/08 12:41 PM


Rank E4:wink:


Outstanding Marine! I myself was an E4 MP tho, 18 months in iraq


I was an E4 as well

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Thu 05/15/08 12:47 PM
Edited by fairycatcher31 on Thu 05/15/08 12:48 PM
I feel for you girl! I have a 9yr old and I am not looking forward to the teen years..hang in there


Now I have one question for some of the people that responded to her question..here is a woman pouring out her feelings asking for a little advice, you dont know her, you dont know her home life, her child or her situation just some simple advice is all she askes why break her down like that, why make her feel worse about asking for advice or for having kids? Walk a mile in her shoes or ANY single moms shoes and then talk about shooting them or what ever, yes a kick in the arss may have worked when we were younger but times have changed. It may have worked for you but you obviously learned nothing about RESPECT from your parents!