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Topic: Republicans worried
Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 05:22 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 05/15/08 05:27 AM
Republicans are losing more and more seats in congress.
What is alarming them most is they are losing them in districts and states that have been traditionally Republican, in some instances for 99 years. This could possibly be leading up to the worst loss for them since Watergate. They are beginning to turn on their own.

This is a good story,

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/gop_stunned_by_loss_in_mississ.html

These are results of special elections since Bush has taken office.

2008

Dennis Hastert (R-IL) resigned. Special election winner: Bill Foster (D).
Richard Baker (R-LA) resigned. Special election winner: Don Cazayoux (D).
Roger Wicker (R-MS) appointed to Senate. Special election winner: Travis Childers (D).

2004

Ernie Fletcher (R-KY) elected governor. Special election winner: Ben Chandler (D).
Bill Janklow (R-SD) resigned. Special election winner: Stephanie Herseth (D).

2001

Norm Sisisky (D-VA) died. Special election winner: Randy Forbes (R).

They have been thinking Americans are stupid and standing behind their policies.
I think it is heartening to see that we arent, and maybe they too are beginning to get the message. What do you think?


GordonGordon's photo
Thu 05/15/08 05:25 AM
boo ya

trying_to_fly's photo
Thu 05/15/08 05:29 AM
I think it's great we're finally doing something about this disaster!!! This country needs help and we're only making it bad for ourselves!! It's good we're FINALLY standing up and taking charge!!! That's GREAT to hear this!! Thanks for posting!!!drinker drinker

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 05:32 AM
Could it be?

Could it be that the silent majority are finally speaking out?drinker drinker

warmachine's photo
Thu 05/15/08 05:52 AM
The question is, are they being replaced with Dems for the sake of not voting Republican, like a protest kinda deal, or are they actually looking at these new people and their positions and agree with them on there face?

I hope it's more about the policies and less about being anti-GOP, there are still some good Conservatives out there that haven't been ruined by the Neocons.

The GOP is in alot more trouble than they realize, I think.

RoamingOrator's photo
Thu 05/15/08 05:56 AM
Republican, Democrat, they are both just two heads of the same monster. Until the American people decide that they've had enough of the two party system and either add a couple more or be rid of the party system altogether, nothing will change.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 06:17 AM
I think they are votes to break up a Republican Coalition. A coalition with a planned strategy. They continue to support the Bush administrations policies regardless of the will of the people and it is coming back to bite them in the arse.
Their policies are all the same. They have no individual stance! They are collectively intent on pursuing the current destructive path they have been leading this country down for 8 years. It is not happen chance, it is premeditated. They have taken all the people for sheep, including their own party voters.
If the Democrats dont get the message and the people stand their ground then they too can be replaced. I think this is but the first step to the people taking back their country from the professional politicians and their corporate interests.
I see no bad in it the politicians have to be taught not to bite the hand that feeds them, and to that I say,
boo yadrinker drinker

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/15/08 06:24 AM
both parties have the same goal

one takes the high road

the other takes the low road

and sometimes they switch roads

but in reality they are both pretty low roads

just a thought

but hey

what do i know

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 06:24 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 05/15/08 06:34 AM

Republican, Democrat, they are both just two heads of the same monster. Until the American people decide that they've had enough of the two party system and either add a couple more or be rid of the party system altogether, nothing will change.


There are 6 political Parties, not counting the communist party.
There is the traditional 2, plus the Green party, the Libertarian party, the Constitution party, and the America first party.

Spreading the vote that many different ways will only lead to Congress, per the constitution, appointing the President. It will accomplish nothing!

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 06:30 AM
Defeatist attitudes will not accomplish anything either.
Climb on board and show the politicians whose government it is.
It wont happen over night, but by taking a defeatist attitude it will never happen.
I refuse to surrender and will pursue the idea of a Gov of the people for the people to my death!
I am an American!!

RoamingOrator's photo
Thu 05/15/08 06:32 AM


Republican, Democrat, they are both just two heads of the same monster. Until the American people decide that they've had enough of the two party system and either add a couple more or be rid of the party system altogether, nothing will change.


There are 6 political Parties, not counting the communist party.
There is the traditional 2, plus the Green party, the Libertarian party, the Constitution party, and the America first party.

Spreading the vote that many different ways will only lead to Congress appointing, per the constitution, the President. It will accomplish nothing!


That is where you are wrong. Of course the congress would end up appointing a President on a more frequent basis, but the minor parties have no voice in national elections and very little in the local. The "fair and equal" press refuses to cover them or even invite them to debates. Hence, the two party system.

The real bonus to spreading the electorate out more occurs not in the White House, but in Congress. If we force congressmen to work together by breaking the two party coalitions, there is a higher probablity of greater goals accomplished. Not to mention the ancient adage "variety is the spice of life." Without a regular shift in the representitives, no change can occur.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 06:36 AM



Republican, Democrat, they are both just two heads of the same monster. Until the American people decide that they've had enough of the two party system and either add a couple more or be rid of the party system altogether, nothing will change.


There are 6 political Parties, not counting the communist party.
There is the traditional 2, plus the Green party, the Libertarian party, the Constitution party, and the America first party.

Spreading the vote that many different ways will only lead to Congress appointing, per the constitution, the President. It will accomplish nothing!


That is where you are wrong. Of course the congress would end up appointing a President on a more frequent basis, but the minor parties have no voice in national elections and very little in the local. The "fair and equal" press refuses to cover them or even invite them to debates. Hence, the two party system.

The real bonus to spreading the electorate out more occurs not in the White House, but in Congress. If we force congressmen to work together by breaking the two party coalitions, there is a higher probablity of greater goals accomplished. Not to mention the ancient adage "variety is the spice of life." Without a regular shift in the representitives, no change can occur.


To that I have but one thing to say,
United we stand, divided we fall!!
Climb on board or please dont vote at all...

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 06:37 AM
I am an Independent voter.drinker drinker

RoamingOrator's photo
Thu 05/15/08 06:39 AM




Republican, Democrat, they are both just two heads of the same monster. Until the American people decide that they've had enough of the two party system and either add a couple more or be rid of the party system altogether, nothing will change.


There are 6 political Parties, not counting the communist party.
There is the traditional 2, plus the Green party, the Libertarian party, the Constitution party, and the America first party.

Spreading the vote that many different ways will only lead to Congress appointing, per the constitution, the President. It will accomplish nothing!


That is where you are wrong. Of course the congress would end up appointing a President on a more frequent basis, but the minor parties have no voice in national elections and very little in the local. The "fair and equal" press refuses to cover them or even invite them to debates. Hence, the two party system.

The real bonus to spreading the electorate out more occurs not in the White House, but in Congress. If we force congressmen to work together by breaking the two party coalitions, there is a higher probablity of greater goals accomplished. Not to mention the ancient adage "variety is the spice of life." Without a regular shift in the representitives, no change can occur.


To that I have but one thing to say,
United we stand, divided we fall!!
Climb on board or please dont vote at all...


If there is anyone misguided in this room, it's the one telling others not to vote. Who is the really, George Bush trying to stay in office? You go ahead an beat your agenda's drum, but I'm voting, I'll guarentee that. When I want communism, I'll move to Venezuala, at least I'd be able to afford gas there.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 06:49 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 05/15/08 06:50 AM
I am for voting, but you cant divide the vote and expect results.
People have to vote informed (or it is better they dont vote at all), and they have to vote together for a common end.
I advocate a Zero party system. In the Senate, the House, and for President.
You still need to get there though and I dont see any other way than first to tell these professional politicians that we wont stand for their efforts to give America to the Corporations and their own personal financial gains.

You offer what? Further division? That only plays into their hands.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 06:52 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 05/15/08 06:54 AM





Republican, Democrat, they are both just two heads of the same monster. Until the American people decide that they've had enough of the two party system and either add a couple more or be rid of the party system altogether, nothing will change.


There are 6 political Parties, not counting the communist party.
There is the traditional 2, plus the Green party, the Libertarian party, the Constitution party, and the America first party.

Spreading the vote that many different ways will only lead to Congress appointing, per the constitution, the President. It will accomplish nothing!


That is where you are wrong. Of course the congress would end up appointing a President on a more frequent basis, but the minor parties have no voice in national elections and very little in the local. The "fair and equal" press refuses to cover them or even invite them to debates. Hence, the two party system.

The real bonus to spreading the electorate out more occurs not in the White House, but in Congress. If we force congressmen to work together by breaking the two party coalitions, there is a higher probablity of greater goals accomplished. Not to mention the ancient adage "variety is the spice of life." Without a regular shift in the representitives, no change can occur.


To that I have but one thing to say,
United we stand, divided we fall!!
Climb on board or please dont vote at all...


If there is anyone misguided in this room, it's the one telling others not to vote. Who is the really, George Bush trying to stay in office? You go ahead an beat your agenda's drum, but I'm voting, I'll guarentee that. When I want communism, I'll move to Venezuala, at least I'd be able to afford gas there.


You leave. I'll stay and fight!drinker

Thats what makes American unique from the rest of the world.
We dont leave when the going gets tough!!

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/15/08 08:59 AM
the people are who should be worried

if there is a dem congress and a dem president


can you say tax tax tax

but hey life goes on

Winx's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:02 AM

the people are who should be worried

if there is a dem congress and a dem president


can you say tax tax tax

but hey life goes on


Dem voter here.bigsmile

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:04 AM
well nothing wrong with that

that is your choice

i have voted for dem in my lifetime

but a balance is needed

so both are kept in check

myself i would probably be better off with a dem + dem in dc

Winx's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:09 AM

well nothing wrong with that

that is your choice

i have voted for dem in my lifetime

but a balance is needed

so both are kept in check

myself i would probably be better off with a dem + dem in dc


Nobody likes heavy taxing. But..nobody likes heavy spending either. There has to be some kind of middle ground. Bush has gotten us into some terrible debt. It's going to take years to fix that.


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