Topic: Republicans worried
Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:11 AM

the people are who should be worried

if there is a dem congress and a dem president


can you say tax tax tax

but hey life goes on


Im not against paying taxes. Its accountability, and what they are used for, that bothers me.
Everyone acts like things are going to get better by giving tax breaks. That wont happen. Who is going to pay for this recovery, the corporations? That sure will help aye?
Use them here on programs to help Americans, find alternative energy, and the rebuild the infrastructure, and I have no problem at all.

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:12 AM


well nothing wrong with that

that is your choice

i have voted for dem in my lifetime

but a balance is needed

so both are kept in check

myself i would probably be better off with a dem + dem in dc


Nobody likes heavy taxing. But..nobody likes heavy spending either. There has to be some kind of middle ground. Bush has gotten us into some terrible debt. It's going to take years to fix that.





well i am not sure of the debt too gnp ratio at the moment

but yes there is a bit of debt out there that is for sure

but i am not positive it is out of ratio

what is the gnp and what is the debt

hopefully (yea right) it is not over 5 times the gnp

kinda like buying a house should not spend more than 5 times yer annual salary and that is pushing it a little imo

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:15 AM


the people are who should be worried

if there is a dem congress and a dem president


can you say tax tax tax

but hey life goes on


Im not against paying taxes. Its accountability, and what they are used for, that bothers me.
Everyone acts like things are going to get better by giving tax breaks. That wont happen. Who is going to pay for this recovery, the corporations? That sure will help aye?
Use them here on programs to help Americans, find alternative energy, and the rebuild the infrastructure, and I have no problem at all.



cooperations do not pay for anything fanta you know that

corporations work everything into their pricing structure

so all you anti-tax people ready for this

not only do you pay your tax you pay the tax on the company that made the items you buy

just a thought

but hey

what do i know


Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:19 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 05/15/08 09:21 AM
Corporations dont pay taxes?

They sure do pay for legislation for their own selfish gains.

Did you see where the two Jewish Americans are under investigation for donations to Olmert?

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:20 AM
Maybe taxes is the wrong word..drinker

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:22 AM
no taxes is the right word

if people really knew ho much tax they paid

there would be a revolt

(i am not condoning a revolt just stating a fact)

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glasses glasses <<<<<------- they are watching

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:25 AM

no taxes is the right word

if people really knew ho much tax they paid

there would be a revolt

(i am not condoning a revolt just stating a fact)

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glasses glasses <<<<<------- they are watching


LMAO,
I know what your saying. There would not be any real tax hikes if the money we already pay was just redirected.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:27 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 05/15/08 09:27 AM
I liked Bill Richardson's idea of starting a National effort like the one Kennedy had to reach the moon aimed at finding an alternative energy source.
It would create jobs as well.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:29 AM
and give people a sense of patriotism...

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:32 AM
need to build more (hoover damns)

and work on solar efficiency

and buid some wind farms

and build some efficient electric cars with solar chargers on roof
i know the solar panel (at this time) would not charge fast enough
but it would help

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:33 AM
drinker drinker

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 09:37 AM
We need a National effort. Involve all the top scientist and explore all sources.

Then tell the ME to fukc off..

Dragoness's photo
Thu 05/15/08 10:42 AM

Defeatist attitudes will not accomplish anything either.
Climb on board and show the politicians whose government it is.
It wont happen over night, but by taking a defeatist attitude it will never happen.
I refuse to surrender and will pursue the idea of a Gov of the people for the people to my death!
I am an American!!


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warmachine's photo
Thu 05/15/08 11:29 AM






Republican, Democrat, they are both just two heads of the same monster. Until the American people decide that they've had enough of the two party system and either add a couple more or be rid of the party system altogether, nothing will change.


There are 6 political Parties, not counting the communist party.
There is the traditional 2, plus the Green party, the Libertarian party, the Constitution party, and the America first party.

Spreading the vote that many different ways will only lead to Congress appointing, per the constitution, the President. It will accomplish nothing!


That is where you are wrong. Of course the congress would end up appointing a President on a more frequent basis, but the minor parties have no voice in national elections and very little in the local. The "fair and equal" press refuses to cover them or even invite them to debates. Hence, the two party system.

The real bonus to spreading the electorate out more occurs not in the White House, but in Congress. If we force congressmen to work together by breaking the two party coalitions, there is a higher probablity of greater goals accomplished. Not to mention the ancient adage "variety is the spice of life." Without a regular shift in the representitives, no change can occur.


To that I have but one thing to say,
United we stand, divided we fall!!
Climb on board or please dont vote at all...


If there is anyone misguided in this room, it's the one telling others not to vote. Who is the really, George Bush trying to stay in office? You go ahead an beat your agenda's drum, but I'm voting, I'll guarentee that. When I want communism, I'll move to Venezuala, at least I'd be able to afford gas there.


You leave. I'll stay and fight!drinker

Thats what makes American unique from the rest of the world.
We dont leave when the going gets tough!!



Big props on this one, I had to make a similar statement yesterday.

I'll be voting my conscious and thats the way I think it should be.


Lindyy's photo
Thu 05/15/08 01:39 PM
Edited by Lindyy on Thu 05/15/08 01:41 PM

Republicans are losing more and more seats in congress.
What is alarming them most is they are losing them in districts and states that have been traditionally Republican, in some instances for 99 years. This could possibly be leading up to the worst loss for them since Watergate. They are beginning to turn on their own.

This is a good story,

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/gop_stunned_by_loss_in_mississ.html

These are results of special elections since Bush has taken office.

2008

Dennis Hastert (R-IL) resigned. Special election winner: Bill Foster (D).
Richard Baker (R-LA) resigned. Special election winner: Don Cazayoux (D).
Roger Wicker (R-MS) appointed to Senate. Special election winner: Travis Childers (D).

2004

Ernie Fletcher (R-KY) elected governor. Special election winner: Ben Chandler (D).
Bill Janklow (R-SD) resigned. Special election winner: Stephanie Herseth (D).

2001

Norm Sisisky (D-VA) died. Special election winner: Randy Forbes (R).

They have been thinking Americans are stupid and standing behind their policies.
I think it is heartening to see that we arent, and maybe they too are beginning to get the message. What do you think?




Fanta,

Don't get too many bubbles going at one time. It is a simple thing called "Murphy's Law." Sooner or later situations change, and Fanta, in 2 years, definitely 4 years, the political scene will once again, be totally turned around.

We Republicans had to put up with 8 years of damocrats, Murphy's Law came into play and the USA got back to Republican. It is such an easy theory to understand.

Lindyy

:heart:
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adj4u's photo
Thu 05/15/08 01:56 PM
the therory needs changed to ad a party or to and then go to a 51% or greater to win

and if not obtained have a run off election


just a thought

but hey

what do i know

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 02:41 PM


Republicans are losing more and more seats in congress.
What is alarming them most is they are losing them in districts and states that have been traditionally Republican, in some instances for 99 years. This could possibly be leading up to the worst loss for them since Watergate. They are beginning to turn on their own.

This is a good story,

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/gop_stunned_by_loss_in_mississ.html

These are results of special elections since Bush has taken office.

2008

Dennis Hastert (R-IL) resigned. Special election winner: Bill Foster (D).
Richard Baker (R-LA) resigned. Special election winner: Don Cazayoux (D).
Roger Wicker (R-MS) appointed to Senate. Special election winner: Travis Childers (D).

2004

Ernie Fletcher (R-KY) elected governor. Special election winner: Ben Chandler (D).
Bill Janklow (R-SD) resigned. Special election winner: Stephanie Herseth (D).

2001

Norm Sisisky (D-VA) died. Special election winner: Randy Forbes (R).

They have been thinking Americans are stupid and standing behind their policies.
I think it is heartening to see that we arent, and maybe they too are beginning to get the message. What do you think?




Fanta,

Don't get too many bubbles going at one time. It is a simple thing called "Murphy's Law." Sooner or later situations change, and Fanta, in 2 years, definitely 4 years, the political scene will once again, be totally turned around.

We Republicans had to put up with 8 years of damocrats, Murphy's Law came into play and the USA got back to Republican. It is such an easy theory to understand.

Lindyy

:heart:
laugh



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Even Clinton can lay claim to the waste of George Bush Lindy.
noway noway noway noway noway noway noway

Damn Republicans.......grumble grumble

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 02:43 PM
Name one good thing Bush has done while President Lindy..

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 05/15/08 02:44 PM

I think it's great we're finally doing something about this disaster!!! This country needs help and we're only making it bad for ourselves!! It's good we're FINALLY standing up and taking charge!!! That's GREAT to hear this!! Thanks for posting!!!drinker drinker
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Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/15/08 02:46 PM
Right on Mirror!drinker

Stick around,
Lindy's answer is bound to be educationalbigsmile