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Okay, if you are convinced that masturbation is a "sin" this is what you can tell him. Tell him that masturbation is considered a sin, but that it is a natural human process and that he is not to feel guilty about this because Jesus died for all sins of mankind, and therefore these sins are washed away and forgiven. Will that work? JB It does. However, i told him something pretty similar. I just did not explain him about Jesus. Doesn't the Catholic Church believe that Jesus died for all sins of mankind? If so, why do you leave this out? |
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you forgot to ask is he a practicing catholic, if not no sin. if he is god forgives
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Okay, if you are convinced that masturbation is a "sin" this is what you can tell him. Tell him that masturbation is considered a sin, but that it is a natural human process and that he is not to feel guilty about this because Jesus died for all sins of mankind, and therefore these sins are washed away and forgiven. Will that work? JB It does. However, i told him something pretty similar. I just did not explain him about Jesus. Doesn't the Catholic Church believe that Jesus died for all sins of mankind? If so, why do you leave this out? He knows that since he is very young. Plus I was trying to keep the concept of sin out of his mind. I'm sure if i focused in sin, no matter what he was going to feel guilty. |
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 Im not sure its a good idea to tell a child that masturbation is a sin. I think there are different opinions on that and it could be damaging to tell a young person that masturbating(in private) is a sin.
you see I told him, that masturbation was a normal step within his psychophysical development. However, the problem comes when masturbation becomes a vice. A person has to have self-restrain. I mean even in much simpler things such as eating. Any excess tends to be wrong. I tried not to focus in the fact that masturbation is a sin, but in the fact that there are many other things that he can do instead. I did tell never to feel guilty if he masturbates. I agree, masturbation would only be somewhat of a problem if one were to become dependent on it to fulfill an emptiness inside them. I would say, this this is most likely not the case with a teen though. |
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...I already made a similar thread on Parenting talking forums, but i wanted to do it here to be a little bit more specific. My nephew (14) called me, and with the spontaneous way kids have, He asked me: "is masturbation a sin?" I got shocked because i was not expecting such a thing. However, the point is how to teach a child something that me as a christian (catholic) know is a sin, but I also understand that masturbation is part of the normal development of a teenager. I think this is one of main issues about the wat christianity teaches the reality of sin. Somehow, churches (Catholic included) implant guilt in people minds. Guilt does not let the person to develop as a person. People with guilt are like lab rats. I have gone to confession several times with different priests, and they have told me pretty much the same thing. in fact masturbation it's sin (I'm not going to get into the nature of masturbation as a sin), but a person can't live in guilt because of that. However, there must be some sort of self-restrain. We can't let our body rule over our mind. Then my basic conflict is how to make understand a child that masturbation it's a sin, and at the same time make him know that if it happens he should not have guilt feelings. How can I make him a good christian without castrating his ability of reasoning? TLW P.S. Please, for those who answer this thread if any, do not distort this in an arguement on why religions are wrong, and let's focus on how to come accross with the right message. I agree that most youngsters are curious about their bodies, why then should me make them feel awkward about what comes naturally. |
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Personally I don't believe in the Church's concept of sin. I now understand it to mean disobedience of God's laws.... what ever they might be.
Having to ask for forgiveness every time you think a sexy thought or masturbate to me is ridiculous, but hey its your religion. Sorry I couldn't help much. JB |
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Personally I don't believe in the Church's concept of sin. I now understand it to mean disobedience of God's laws.... what ever they might be. Having to ask for forgiveness every time you think a sexy thought or masturbate to me is ridiculous, but hey its your religion. Sorry I couldn't help much. JB You see. I know, understand, and believe in the concept of sin as far as the Church teaches it. But for me in the case of masturbation is normal, as I said before the problem starts when it becomes excesive. There are hundreds of priests who agree in that masturbation is just response to certain bodily processes. That is going to happen no matter what. |
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Personally I don't believe in the Church's concept of sin. I now understand it to mean disobedience of God's laws.... what ever they might be. Having to ask for forgiveness every time you think a sexy thought or masturbate to me is ridiculous, but hey its your religion. Sorry I couldn't help much. JB You see. I know, understand, and believe in the concept of sin as far as the Church teaches it. But for me in the case of masturbation is normal, as I said before the problem starts when it becomes excesive. There are hundreds of priests who agree in that masturbation is just response to certain bodily processes. That is going to happen no matter what. I would say close to 100% of the priests think it is normal when judged only by their actions. Actions speak louder then words |
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...I already made a similar thread on Parenting talking forums, but i wanted to do it here to be a little bit more specific. My nephew (14) called me, and with the spontaneous way kids have, He asked me: "is masturbation a sin?" Then my basic conflict is how to make understand a child that masturbation it's a sin, and at the same time make him know that if it happens he should not have guilt feelings. How can I make him a good christian without castrating his ability of reasoning? TLW P.S. Please, for those who answer this thread if any, do not distort this in an arguement on why religions are wrong, and let's focus on how to come accross with the right message. Well actually...at that age it's best to let him know that God has a higher calling for his life. Does he want to throw it off for cheap thrills etc etc... it's really about where our focus is. God gives us a guidelines & commandments about life & living, & expects that we should make the most of His wisdom....BEFORE we make choices that submit us to all sorts of sins. It's not about the do's & don't more than applying wisdom. Don't worry about being cool, but be real about it. I wish I had understood these things when I was younger. It would have saved me alot of suffering. Where your heart is, is where your treasure is..." Let him know that. Does he really want to sacrifice grace, peace, integrity, self respect...things like that? what he does today will make him what he is tommorrow. Also... you may want to chat it up with his parents. They should know he's asking questions. |
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For men (or women) who want to channel their sexual energy up through their vital organs and extend their life, there is an exercise.
It is the sixth rite, and is known by some monks and priests who choose to live a celibate life. It is a deep breathing exercise that is done when you are sexually aroused. It is the last rite in a book called "The Ancient Secret Fountain of Youth" which has five rites to improve your health and vitality. JB |
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For men (or women) who want to channel their sexual energy up through their vital organs and extend their life, there is an exercise. It is the sixth rite, and is known by some monks and priests who choose to live a celibate life. It is a deep breathing exercise that is done when you are sexually aroused. It is the last rite in a book called "The Ancient Secret Fountain of Youth" which has five rites to improve your health and vitality. JB Explain more, please. |
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I have done the five rites and I can give testimony that when I do them regularly, I feel 20-30 years younger within 10 weeks. It also increases the sexual drive, that is where the sixth rite comes in.
JB ******************************** http://www.night-thunder.com/fivesecret.html#rite6 Pasted from the above link: The series of Five Tibetan exercises described above is capable of being practised two or three times a day everyday during the entire lifetime. In contrast, the following exercise, according to the Tibetan Lamas, has a very special purpose and it ought to be practised only in circumstances described below. If you are not sure, and do not practise the first five exercises regularly, do not practise this exercise. You have been warned. The deemed purpose of the Tibetan #6 exercise is to redirect the excess of sexual and reproductive energy, generated by the activity of the what is perceived of as being the base chakra (also referred to as vortexes) to all higher chakras along the spine, especially to the brow chakra, which activity is related to our spiritual awareness and psychic abilities. According to Lamas this exercise ought to be practised only when the excess of the sexual urge is experienced, otherwise this exercise does more harm than benefit, by draining the energy from the base chakra. By systematically practising the first five Tibetan exercises it is quite possible to raise the energy of the base chakra so much, that the sexual urge appears and requires to be dealt with. This is capable of happening at any age. One way to handle the situation is to dissipate this powerful energy in sexual activities. The Tibetan alternative is to transmute it to higher use, to accelerate your spiritual development and rejuvenate the physical body. Instead of dissipating the reproductive energy you may choose to use it to regenerate cells in your entire physical body. The choice is yours; you have the free choices, as always. Sometimes one may find in their lives that sexual activity without sincere love and a spiritually matched partner is similar to going to a forest and not seeing trees. Sexual love in its clearest form brings about a spiritual union, bringing experiences and sensations far more profound, pleasurable, longer lasting and beneficial than just a physical act of relief. In the absence of a partner that you are capable of achieving this with, Tibetan Lamas offer you the alternative, verified over many thousands of years to be not only effective, though also very beneficial to your total health, longevity, bio-energy level, Aura and most importantly to your spiritual development. They do not attempt to suppress the powerful energy of the base chakra. Such suppression is destined to fail, much as any act against the Nature. They offer an efficient way to transmute it for the higher purpose. *********************************** |
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Thank you, JB.
I have always found a lot of wisdom from oriental culture. |
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Thank you, JB.
I have always found a lot of wisdom from oriental culture. |
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ha ha sorry had to laugh maybe thats why he created eve lol
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ha ha sorry had to laugh maybe thats why he created eve lol No because if you even "look" at Eve you are sinning. 
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