Think about it girl he feels so guilty that this happen sure he sees it as his fault. When we fail at what we thought we could do best raise our kids. That is a tough pill to swallow. Plus with this happening now you could get full custody of the little one if he choses to go back to his new wife and live. Now he has a choice to make his kids or his new wife. It would be a hands down matter for me. For my kids have always come first. That is why no man lived with me for 16 years never wanted to put them in a postion that something like that would happen.

But regardless when you talk to him you are going to have to keep your cool believe me if it is his wife or kids that did this he is a beat man right now and the situation will need some understanding. But ............ I would fight tooth and nail before that baby goes back to that house.

(((( el ))))

I dont know what more to say than,, Strength I send you, Prayers your path stays steady, and you get the action you need to resolve this matter,, and have your baby in your arms,,

Love & Light

I love you girl, you know that....

You know I've been praying for you threw this.

Remember cut the brake lines.... I'd like to do it personally....

Contact Childrens Services, find out who the case worker is, and stay in close contact with him/her.

I'm not sure if your divorce decree states you can call or the amount of times you can call her, but keep in constant contact with that house and her. I know you go to the school to see her, have the teachers write letters. At this point you can also contanct a local "Womens" service and they at times can offer free counsel (lawyers and such)

I keep you in my prayers everynight doll....

"Think about it girl he feels so guilty that this happen sure he sees it as his fault."

Kristi, i have no doubt he's choking on that pill right now, like i said, i don't think he's at fault. however, im sure he's beating himself up more than i ever could.

"I would fight tooth and nail before that baby goes back to that house."

she's already back with him, at that house, and i dunno if his wife is with him, or her kids for that matter. he's not talkin to me, so i still know nothing

firstly, i've called the case worker, she told me that she can't give me information on this case, however, if something happens again, she'll notify me, and once the investigation is thru, she'll send me the 'findings' paper, the paper with the conclusion of the investigation.

also, the divorce papers say nothing about how often i can call, so i'll start calling nightly, so that im the last voice she hears

3rd, the teachers all know of this situation, it started when spring break ended, they all know, and the documentation that i have is from her teacher, and now the officers have copies of those papers also

I'd like to take that challenge..... If he was really beating himself up, he'd hand her back to you...Like he should.

If I ever met him in a dark alley.... His wife wouldn't be able to recognise the body...

He makes me SOOOOOOOOO angry.

You can go to the police station and ask for all the police reports from an address..... No names...just the address. Thn you might be able to build a better case too.

I agree with Lily. I'd like to see that. You know my thoughts, babes. I read this entire thread. I'll call ya later tonight when I'm at work assuming you're still at Becky's.

lily put yourself in his place..

HE brought this woman AND her kids into our daughter's life, and this is the outcome of that grave mistake!

in the mean time, im pissed at him, throwing in my face how long he's known this woman, how wonderful she is blah blah blah, and then THIS happens.

however, i can't blame anyone, i don't feel he had anything to do with it, i think he may have walked in on it, or finally saw something that he HAD to question.

but yes, i AM pissed, and yes i DO blame him to an extent. know who you marry, KNOW who you marry!

i don't see what good having police reports from an address would do for me..

considering, according to the officers, my lawyer will have to subpoena the police reports for THIS case, i can't just ask for them, due to it being an 'ongoing investigation'

Hey Beautiful,,, Stoppin by to give ya some strength my shoulders have lots of it,,, And to leave you some Coffee or tea if you prefer,, and some big ole hugs,,

El,, Your an amazing women and you will get through this,,, I know when... tell me when,,, I cant sweetie, just until she is in your arms,, I will send strength to you,,

Love ya Girl,,,

I can put myself in his place.

If I got re-married and the person I brought into my daughters life in some way was harming her, I'd send her to her fathers until I could figure out what to do. Her safety is the most important.

I'm a mama bear, I'll swat my child, but I'll swat anyone that swats my child.

Police reports are public acces, they may not show exact details, but you can see any and all calls to that house, and the minor details. If there has been alot of calls for "domestic violence" that builds the case stronger for you to have her in your home. No matter who the calls were for or about.

i'll be here, still at becky's

if he sent her to my house, that's his way of 'admitting defeat' on this issue, in HIS eyes, so no, he won't do that..but yes, i do see what you're saying

and if they get divorced over this? then where does that leave us? i can't tell you how much i want her with me, instead of with him

I don't know what to tell you but I hope that everything works out for you soon.


I will pray for you and your little angel.


I know God will see you through. And her too.

Keep us posted!

thanks to everyone that's posted, your advice, your prayers, your thoughts, your conscerns...

thank you to everyone

ok...i just got off the phone (again)

go with this for a bit ok?


IF his new wife did this to my daughter

IF he presses charges (altho the police already are)

IF he choses to keep his marriage

i've now been told, all he has to do is go to couseling to keep custody of her!? WTF???


anyone? help me understand this?