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Topic: To slap or not to slap?
dae11x Joined Thu 10/25/07 Posts: 1554	Thu 04/10/08 05:23 PM
How many of you think they should bring back "the slap/spank" rule where the teacher can spank an unruly child in the classroom??? sorry but I and only I (aside from family) discipline my child you got that right, no way in hell would I let some teacher spank or hit my child in anyway. this is just something t put out there and in no way means i feel any person on here is this way. We have such an objection to anyone else disciplining our little "angels" yet we don't do anything to ensure they don't need this said "discipline" when they are in others care.If parents would ensure the little darlings behaved with others better than what they behave with ourselves there wouldn't even need to be the ? of teacher/caregivers being able to spank unruly little miscreants. Well said. I think kids these days lack discipline. I'm not saying physical punishment is the absolute answer, but something needs to be done. Back in the day, if a child got spanked at school, the parents didn't get angry at the teacher. The question was to the child: "What kind of misbehavior were you into that caused that to happen?"

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 04/10/08 05:26 PM
How many of you think they should bring back "the slap/spank" rule where the teacher can spank an unruly child in the classroom??? sorry but I and only I (aside from family) discipline my child you got that right, no way in hell would I let some teacher spank or hit my child in anyway. this is just something t put out there and in no way means i feel any person on here is this way. We have such an objection to anyone else disciplining our little "angels" yet we don't do anything to ensure they don't need this said "discipline" when they are in others care.If parents would ensure the little darlings behaved with others better than what they behave with ourselves there wouldn't even need to be the ? of teacher/caregivers being able to spank unruly little miscreants. I agree with you completely... my child does get disciplined at home, and she doesn't act like a fool at school or anywhere else. However, I still don't feel it is the job of a teacher to physically hit my child. They don't get to decide what my child does or doesn't get spanked for.

iceprincess Joined Tue 11/07/06 Posts: 5938	Thu 04/10/08 05:27 PM
obviously I am reading alot of opinions of people who don't spend much time at school lately and see how unruley some children can become. I am not a advocate of spanking but spend a few days in a classroom and watch how disruptive a student can become and right now the teachers hands are tied just like the parents when it comes to spanking. So ok lets just start ex-spelling every unruley child for any disruptive behavior then the parents can mis work and lets see how that will change many peoples minds Cause you may have 90% of the children there serious about what the teacher is trying to teach them and that 10% is disrupting the whole lesson plan. Schools have become daycare centers for parents and they put no effort into there children. So how are we going to make everyone accountable after the 3 day suspension then in order for your child to return you must sit by them every day for a week. Lets then see how attitudes start to change I am in total agreement with you..........as i said we are so objectionable to anyone disciplining our little "angels" but yet a lot of us do nothing to ensure that our children behave better with others than they do with us heck we don't even ensure they behave with us. I feel if a child is that much of a behaviour problem that the parents should be punished...............issues begin at home.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 04/10/08 05:29 PM
obviously I am reading alot of opinions of people who don't spend much time at school lately and see how unruley some children can become. I am not a advocate of spanking but spend a few days in a classroom and watch how disruptive a student can become and right now the teachers hands are tied just like the parents when it comes to spanking. So ok lets just start ex-spelling every unruley child for any disruptive behavior then the parents can mis work and lets see how that will change many peoples minds Cause you may have 90% of the children there serious about what the teacher is trying to teach them and that 10% is disrupting the whole lesson plan. Schools have become daycare centers for parents and they put no effort into there children. So how are we going to make everyone accountable after the 3 day suspension then in order for your child to return you must sit by them every day for a week. Lets then see how attitudes start to change I am in total agreement with you..........as i said we are so objectionable to anyone disciplining our little "angels" but yet a lot of us do nothing to ensure that our children behave better with others than they do with us heck we don't even ensure they behave with us. I feel if a child is that much of a behaviour problem that the parents should be punished...............issues begin at home. yes I agree

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Thu 04/10/08 05:35 PM
The Bible teaches us that violence is the solution to all problems. So God knows best. Moreover, God also said to murder any unruly children. So forget the slap in the face, just blow a couple of the students away with a shotgun blast and the rest of the class will sit up straight in their chairs do as they're told. Hey, don't look at me. I'm just pointing out what the good book says. God's will is the way to go if you believe that crap. Personally I don't believe it, but that's just me.

iceprincess Joined Tue 11/07/06 Posts: 5938	Thu 04/10/08 05:38 PM
The Bible teaches us that violence is the solution to all problems. So God knows best. Moreover, God also said to murder any unruly children. So forget the slap in the face, just blow a couple of the students away with a shotgun blast and the rest of the class will sit up straight in their chairs do as they're told. Hey, don't look at me. I'm just pointing out what the good book says. God's will is the way to go if you believe that crap. Personally I don't believe it, but that's just me. LMAO.............what you said is really not funny but it's so pathetic what else can you do but laugh. by the way what does the bible have to do with parents being crappy and raising little miscreants that the rest of the world and mainly teachers/caregivers have to put up with till they grow up and become a drain on society?

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Thu 04/10/08 05:48 PM
well sweets mine has behavioral problems that have nothing to do with lack of dicipline but with emotional issues.he is starting counseling next week and seeing a child psychologist soon.I don't want the school doing squat as their lovely methods have including closing my kid in a quiet room while holding the doors closed.some kids have real problems and i have missed work because of it.Let's not be so quick to label kids brats and parents lazy.pisses me off.

caamken Joined Sat 09/01/07 Posts: 18287	Thu 04/10/08 05:57 PM
CDM I am truly sorry for your childs special needs. I too have a special needs child but it is not behaviorial. But at the same token you can not expect 19 other children in the classroom to suffer for one childs needs. At this time a special educational progam needs to be established and the appropriate coarse of learning and correction need to be developed

TheLonelyWalker Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 11870	Thu 04/10/08 05:58 PM Edited by TheLonelyWalker on Thu 04/10/08 05:58 PM
I can't remember how many time i got spanked when I was in school because of my behavior. And i don't think I have any kind of psychological problem. My parents supported such a practice, and to be honest I'm grateful they did. However, I'm talking about a third world country, here things are different with this incredible upscale culture, so I'm not so sure if i would like that teacher from a public school here spank my kid.

TheLonelyWalker Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 11870	Thu 04/10/08 06:01 PM
The Bible teaches us that violence is the solution to all problems. So God knows best. Moreover, God also said to murder any unruly children. So forget the slap in the face, just blow a couple of the students away with a shotgun blast and the rest of the class will sit up straight in their chairs do as they're told. Hey, don't look at me. I'm just pointing out what the good book says. God's will is the way to go if you believe that crap. Personally I don't believe it, but that's just me. I see so much inner pain. What is the point to lie? I have never seen such a thing in the bible. Your hate for christianity is transforming you into a person i didn't know before. I'm so sorry, my friend.

Kaseynej Joined Fri 01/11/08 Posts: 538	Thu 04/10/08 06:08 PM
I think that was a terrible rule. They still have it down in Alabama and they do it in front of the entire class! Though they say they're taken to a different room and there are witnesses, but I never heard of it working that way. In my opinion if you humiliate a child like that in front of their friends, it's only going to cause them to act out further.

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Thu 04/10/08 06:11 PM
I see so much inner pain. What is the point to lie? I have never seen such a thing in the bible. Inner pain? Where do you see that? As far as lying is concerned, don't look at me I didn't write the book. It's all just mythology as far as I'm concerned. I was just offering the biblical solutions is all. Actually I think Aphroditus had better solutions but people today aren't so willing to buy into the Greek Gods and Goddesses anymore.

TheLonelyWalker Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 11870	Thu 04/10/08 06:13 PM
BTW I'm sorry to make a comment about religion in the wrong forum. I just felt like somebody kicked me in the balls. I apologize.

TheLonelyWalker Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 11870	Thu 04/10/08 06:13 PM
BTW I'm sorry to make a comment about religion in the wrong forum. I just felt like somebody kicked me in the balls. I apologize.

mamacat2007 Joined Sat 03/08/08 Posts: 67	Thu 04/10/08 06:38 PM
I have talked to many parents who are afraid of disciplining there children in any way and they run wild 98% of those kids. Starting in the 3rd grade my kids gave me the " Ill tell social services on you or the cops" I have given them the same response for 10 years. "go ahead, I'll hand you the phone,dial the number and pack your bags but Im gonna whop the tar out of you before they get here to make it worth my time, you want to talk abuse I will SHOW you abuse" My kids have NEVER done that and I havent had to come even close to spanking in a very long time.I had a cop tell me as long as you dont leave a mark anywhere you can spank your child and I did but ONLy as a last resort. I agree that many parents used to get much to carried away and it ended up being abuse NOT discipline but that is NOt an exscuse for the way society has went in the other direction

mamacat2007 Joined Sat 03/08/08 Posts: 67	Thu 04/10/08 06:43 PM
UM..... you MUST be reading a diffrent bible then I do honey cuz I KNOW of at LEAST 7 translations and they DONT say what you said. In generic terms what the Bible says is that children should be disciplined but with LOVE and ONLY for purposes of correction so that they may grow to be strong,moral people and live right in the world. there is more then one passage and you have to read them ALL to get the story

dae11x Joined Thu 10/25/07 Posts: 1554	Thu 04/10/08 07:12 PM
I have talked to many parents who are afraid of disciplining there children in any way and they run wild 98% of those kids. Starting in the 3rd grade my kids gave me the " Ill tell social services on you or the cops" I have given them the same response for 10 years. "go ahead, I'll hand you the phone,dial the number and pack your bags but Im gonna whop the tar out of you before they get here to make it worth my time, you want to talk abuse I will SHOW you abuse" My kids have NEVER done that and I havent had to come even close to spanking in a very long time.I had a cop tell me as long as you dont leave a mark anywhere you can spank your child and I did but ONLy as a last resort. I agree that many parents used to get much to carried away and it ended up being abuse NOT discipline but that is NOt an exscuse for the way society has went in the other direction

dae11x Joined Thu 10/25/07 Posts: 1554	Thu 04/10/08 07:13 PM
I have talked to many parents who are afraid of disciplining there children in any way and they run wild 98% of those kids. Starting in the 3rd grade my kids gave me the " Ill tell social services on you or the cops" I have given them the same response for 10 years. "go ahead, I'll hand you the phone,dial the number and pack your bags but Im gonna whop the tar out of you before they get here to make it worth my time, you want to talk abuse I will SHOW you abuse" My kids have NEVER done that and I havent had to come even close to spanking in a very long time.I had a cop tell me as long as you dont leave a mark anywhere you can spank your child and I did but ONLy as a last resort. I agree that many parents used to get much to carried away and it ended up being abuse NOT discipline but that is NOt an exscuse for the way society has went in the other direction Way to tell it, Mamacat!

iceprincess Joined Tue 11/07/06 Posts: 5938	Thu 04/10/08 07:42 PM
well sweets mine has behavioral problems that have nothing to do with lack of dicipline but with emotional issues.he is starting counseling next week and seeing a child psychologist soon.I don't want the school doing squat as their lovely methods have including closing my kid in a quiet room while holding the doors closed.some kids have real problems and i have missed work because of it.Let's not be so quick to label kids brats and parents lazy.pisses me off. did i in any way say anything about children with true behavioral problems? No i said crappy parents who will not discipline their children.Only you would know if this were or in this case were not you.Don't be so quick to take everything to heart i promise the world is not out to "get you".

creativesoul Joined Mon 04/16/07 Posts: 9166	Sat 04/12/08 01:12 PM
The problems with this notion seems to me to be many, one of which being the inherent differences in the disciplinary measures of parents in general. Another issue involves an adult's disciplinary measures and sense of ought towards a child which does not belong them. With those parents who have effectively disciplined their children without corporal punishment it is not necessary. With parents who regularly disipline their children with this measure it may not only be acceptable, but very well may be a necessary incentive, because of what the child lives daily. It is definitely not a clean-cut issue no matter how one looks at it. Many of the most well-rounded people which I have met have come from homes with little or no corporal punishment involved. However, I have also witnessed many not so well-rounded individuals who also have these elements in their raising... There is so much more to it than meets the eye.