You see right there you have a person who has set his life up as some kind of war with anyone who is not what he considers to be a "Christian" and probably with anyone who does not agree with his particular brand of Christian doctrine.

He also assumes that anyone who does not live as he lives then must be leading "shallow empty worldly lives."

How special.

Hahah, it's just a movie. And it wasn't Rob Zombie's creation. Just his vision of John Carpenter's creation.

You bring up some interesting points. Promoting a Satanic lifestyle? It's just a movie dude. No one's going to turn into Michael Myers because they saw the movie. You're referring to Black Metal, and Black Metal is really not all that popular, MTV wouldn't touch it because it doesn't get the teeny boppers attention.
Yeah, those kids probably did shoot up the school because kids were mean to them. Very mean to them. Maybe if the mean kids parents would have taught them they don't poop gold, they wouldn't have been mean and karma wouldn't have bit them in the butt.
You love some ultra-violence? That's not very Christian of you. A movie, is a movie. Regardless of the content. If a person can't discern reality from fantasy, be it violence or sex or drug use, THEY are the problem. Not the movie.

Carry on.

I'll try to explain it, by taking religion out of the equation.

I'll use the cliche Rocket Science instead. If one of us, is knowledgeable in Rocket Science, and the other isn't, the argument on either side is not going to be a good one. If I am the one not up on my Rocket Science, you can pretty much slip anything half-truth or flat out lie by me, and I won't catch it.

So, to bring religion back into the picture, For me to be able to bring up decent points, I need to have a knowledge of the religion(or religions) and the holy books that belong to them. I can't make a good argument against something I know nothing about.

To use an example that (I hope) everyone will find absurd, If we are arguing, and you claim that Jesus road a T-Rex to the spot where he was crucified, If I don't have any knowledge of the bible, I can't dispute your claim.

To answer whether a belief in God threatens me, I would say that yes a belief in god threatens me, but it does so more in the actions that come about from a belief in god. 9/11 is the best, recent example of this. The actions of those hijackers were motivated by their religious beliefs. And it is that ugliness that I feel threatened by.

That's old Testament.

To make the unscientific ascertain that homosexuals are not born gay is ridiculous and irresponsible. If you did a study, I think you would find that all homosexuals were NOT ABUSED AS CHILDREN.

Serial stone cold killers, might be found to have been abused or neglected more than gays.

Also, there are many children being born that are physically both male and female. You can't deny that does not happen because it is a FACT. Many of these children are physically altered AT BIRTH. Therefore the doctor or parents are making the choice at to whether that child will be male or female. WHAT IF THEY ARE WRONG? What if they make a child female that turns out to be more male?

I think you are hobbled by your religious upbringing and you are not using your logic and you are not being fair or understanding.

"Christ" or Jesus does NOT belong in our schools. That is a religion. Religion belongs in Church, not our schools.

Why? Because this country is not all Christian. There are many different faiths.

Who do Christians think they are anyway? They are NOT the only people in the world.

Also, Christians are NOT the only people who have Morals and standards. That is sooo arrogant of you to think that only Christians have morals and standards.

Geeeeze, no wonder you don't get the respect you think you deserve.

DeKLiNe0fMaN:

How about instead of claiming that they are pushing us to accept homosexuality, say that they are trying to get us to accept people for who they are without hate and prejudice.

And instead of claiming that they are pushing us to "hate Jesus" (which they are not doing!) why don't you realize that they are attempting to keep this a free country where the government does not sponsor or push one specific religion down the throats of our children?

Huh?

It's not a need to defend ourselves in front of a god we don't believe exists, it's a need to be able to defend ourselves against the people who do believe that a god exists.
If I don't have a basic understanding(at least) of the bible, then when someone makes the claim that they get their morals/values from the bible, I don't have a response.

There are a number of Atheists out there(myself included) who were raised as a child of religious parents, since my parents are Christian, I was raised on the "teachings" of the bible.
Also, to be able to defend ourselves in the arguments about god, we still need to have a knowledge of all the religions, because you cannot argue for or against that which you do not know.

Perhaps then, a problem is a thing or situation that you personally can't or don't want to deal with.


If you have a problem and don't realize it, is it still a problem?

Yes I think so. For example if you have been targeted by a serial killer and you don't know it, or if you are turning the corner on a mountain pass and and avalanche of rocks are tumbling down the mountain. I would say that those are real problems.

Look around you. You all want to put down the bible. It is true thier was a day when atrocities happened.

In todays world where the Holy Bible is held as a guidence book you have the freedom to say and speak what you want.

Just like on here.

In a communists or socialists country you have to watch what you say. Because at the top is an Athiests and he has decided he has total control.

So why don't Athiests and non believers flock to Russia to where they won't have to hear anything about the Scriptures? Blessings...Miles

....corresponding to the six days of Creation, on the grounds that "one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day" (2 Peter 3:8). This view had been almost completely abandoned by 1997,[citation needed] six thousand years after 4004 BC. Some biblical scholars, as well as a number of evangelical Christians, declare their literal interpretation of the Bible and a 6000-year-old Earth.