asking a general "what do men want" is just like asking everyone in the U.S. "what state do you want to live in"....surfers are going to say California, Florida, or Hawaii.... while cowboys wouldn't be caught dead in any of those states...point being what one man wants another would run from....find out what YOU want and then search for a guy who wants the SAME.

Dream on wee man? You really are tripping now? Ha ha

Until they show us otherwise, women are to be treated as Queens. princesses, nobility.

We, as men, owe our lives to women.

They birth us, love us unconditionally, and raise us to be who we are.

We fck up, we have only ourselves to blame.

Women are the breasts we feed from.

They nurture us til we can care for ourselves.

Even afterwards, we seek them out to reaffirm us as men.

We owe our total existence to the breasts of our mothers, lovers and wives.

How , I ask, how can anyone lose sight of what women mean?

We men, are of the women who bore and gave of themselves.

Lay off the drinking? What the f**k are you on? How do i hate women? You got me totally wrong there! I'm just fed up with women bashing men and men bashing women on these forums, that's all ! If people hate men, or women so much then what the f**k are they doing on a dating site? That's what i don't get! As for your comment here, i saw the time of it. Me and you were having a debate on another forum around this time and you weren't doing so well on there. Sour grapes perhaps, cos a Brit outwitted you on that thread? Ha ha, that's what it is?

I guess I am trying to figure out what this guy really did wrong?

You met him on a date site. Now of course you knew every possible fact to know about him and vice versa? Neither one of you could have left out any significant information about your personality, over all situation, and or maturity.

He took you out on five actual dates, kept his hands off of you, and actually treated you like a lady. Wow let's get a rope and string him up from the closet tree.

Well he did cancel a date; maybe we should drag him behind a car first? Sounds like he was courteous enough to give you his phone number so you could track him down and get pissy about a "date with your horse"? Not like he proposed or anything did he?

And because he isn't dragging you, little more than an acquaintence, to his personal space immediately, and tying you to the bed and ravishing you he must be gay or married? Yup that just has to be the only rational explanation.

Give me a break. Adult men don't jump and stick their nose up some woman's skirt just because some of your buddies tell you that you are all that and a bag of chips.

Some of them actually have some self control and responsibility to figure out what they are getting them self into or deciding to pass on.

They might actually have a life and heaven forbid actually have more than just you as and option.

Is it possible that your behavior made you less than a priority? That you assumed more interest than existed? Or you smothered whatever interest that existed in the begining with high school tactics?

A lot of desirable men don't want their personal lives mulled over with your friends and the world wide web. Not like it is all that impossible for anyone to link your accounts with photos even if you did not tell him anonymous you do use another site.

Maybe they sound like this on the phone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0qAfWWQJ5w

I think it's simply that we've grown up in an age where we're more familiar communicating via email or online that actually talking is really uncomfortable. I'm of the same way. I really struggle face-to-face sometimes too. In my head I know exactly what I want to say and I sound smart and funny, but it rarely comes out that way when I'm nervous... So, in answer to your question, it's probably lacking confidence in talking on the phone (as I do) and worried he'll ruin it by saying something stupid (just as I do).

don't worry, your fine... all the other people on here are nice, as you have been...

welcome and good luck

you need to lay off the drinking... in no way was this close to a man hating thread, she wanted advice and posted it without any hate. just because you hate women doesn't mean they hate us...

I agree with this.
I do think if you are interested in somebody and they led you to believe they were also interested, then its just common courtesy for them to let you know they had a change of heart.
Only the selfish take the easy way out !

I am sorry to have to say this, but in my opinion the guy was gay. If after 5 dates there was no attempt by him to kiss or make a pass at you then he was gay, in fact I am beginning to seriously wonder about you. It seems to me that you were not really in to him. If you had tried as hard when you were together to reach him, as you did when you were apart, with all those calls to his mobile, etc. It could have been all very different for you, seems to me if the guy wasn't gay he just gave up all too frosty maybe?
This is the 21st Century, equality ladies, sometimes guys need coaxing if they are unsure, turn it up a little, guys like it hot.

Welcome to Mingle2 and good luck in your search.

Oops, i'm in the man-hating thread? The guy was looking for a get out of jail free card and your Horses were just part of the excuse to get out of there sharpish. Talking as a guy, maybe you just bored him? It happens, i've been there before, but I told the lassie that things weren't going to work out and that was that. His only reason was ' your Horses ' tells me that he can't deal with delicate situations, like telling someone it's over. There are always two sides to a story and I think the version by the OP, is not painting the full picture? Also stop running us guys down? You may have been hurt by some of us in the past? Hating on us all though will hamper you in the future when you meet a good one!