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what´s the best thing to do...? 
U- like Sugar Ray When It's Over When it's over That's the time I fall in love again And when it's over That's the time you're in my heart again And when you go go go go I know And it never ends It never ends [chorus] All the things that I used to say All the words that got in the way All the things that I used to know Have gone out the window All the things that she used to bring All the songs she used to sing All the favorite TV shows Have gone out the window I'm missing you I never knew how much she'd loved me I'm missing you I never knew how much you meant to me I need you and when you go go go go I know It never ends Never ends [chorus] All the things that I used to say All the words that got in the way All the things that I used to know Have gone out the window All the things that she used to bring All the songs she used to sing All the favorite TV shows Have gone out the window I'm wishing you You never said you were pretending I'm wishing you You feel the same and just come back to me I need you and when you go go go go I know It never ends It never ends When it's over Can I still come over And when it's over Is it really over When it's over That's the time I fall in love again [chorus] All the things that I used to say All the words that got in the way All the things that I used to know Have gone out the window All the things that she used to bring All the songs she used to sing All the favorite TV shows Have gone out the window All the things that I used to say All the words that got in the way All the things that I used to know Have gone out the window All the things that she used to bring All the songs she used to sing All the favorite TV shows Have gone out the window |
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eerie
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Fri 10/17/08 06:34 PM
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If we don't want to know what other stuff happened, we don't have to email you. Right? Bonny Miss, is that a real pic or are you messen around ??? Would I use a fake picture in my profile? It is real I tell thee ! Ok, why are you talking in Old English? (Thee) Oh' Colt 45 and Old English both Malt Liquors...I get it. You are clever! Because I'm an old English bird? Your pic makes you look more like a young black Captain Morgan. Do you like rum by the way? |
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i used my digital camera to take random pictures of where i stay and after reviewing a few of the shots i did notice some strange images. mind you my mom's boyfreind passed away in august. one thing happened to my camera cause out of nowhere when i was going to retrieve the pictures the screen said out of no where the card is ejected.  if u want to know what other stuff happened email me
 fartsniffer
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Fluffer! |
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If we don't want to know what other stuff happened, we don't have to email you. Right? Bonny Miss, is that a real pic or are you messen around ??? Would I use a fake picture in my profile? It is real I tell thee ! Ok, why are you talking in Old English? (Thee) Oh' Colt 45 and Old English both Malt Liquors...I get it. You are clever! |
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"Colt 45....Don’t let the smooth taste fool ya!"
"But your camera just might" Thank you Billy Dee Williams - Landoe " I'm high as hell" Calrission! Lady Sings the Blues and Diana needs to be SLAPED!!! |
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eerie
Edited by
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Fri 10/17/08 06:21 PM
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If we don't want to know what other stuff happened, we don't have to email you. Right? Bonny Miss, is that a real pic or are you messen around ??? |
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Edited by
GOALLTHEWAY
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Fri 10/17/08 06:10 PM
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my bad.... he wasnt removed from office.... and are you gonna tell me you Bush's policies are good ones? please lieing is lieing period.. I never said it was right so don't put words in my mouth never said it should be run by 1 party as far as im concerned the 2 party system has failed and should be abolished did you cash in on that tax rebate? I refused mine thats a redistribution and notice i said supposed to be equal 
"did you cash in on that tax rebate? I refused mine thats a redistribution." It's only redistribution if you didn’t pay any taxes to the Government. I paid taxes so I was getting some of MY money back from the government not someone else’s money. So, if you paid taxes and you refused the stimulus check then you let the government keep YOUR money. Why did you do that????? |
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Edited by
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Fri 10/17/08 05:58 PM
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my bad.... he wasnt removed from office.... and are you gonna tell me you Bush's policies are good ones? please lieing is lieing period.. I never said it was right so don't put words in my mouth never said it should be run by 1 party as far as im concerned the 2 party system has failed and should be abolished did you cash in on that tax rebate? I refused mine thats a redistribution and notice i said supposed to be equal
1. I voted for Bush the first time. That was enough for me. I registered as an independent before his second term. He is an Ass hole but he is far from being stupid. He let the elites throw a big party in our country and we got stuck paying their tab. 2. Now as far as the war goes….well it was a very good thing to get rid of Saddam. . He was constantly violating the cease fire agreement we had with him from the first Gulf War before 911. So, 911 or not we were still going back into Iraq. That’s another thing that people conveniently forget by the way. . I rather not hear that crap about how we propped Saddam up either. You like hamburgers…ever seen a cow get slaughtered? – same thing there. 3. We need a third party and a fourth even. Power in our country is too concentrated between those two parties. People need to wake the hell up to what is going on and fast or we are all going to be poor and enslaved by the elite core. |
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1. They hate Bush and love Clinton and they think that Bush stole his first election from Al Gort also known as “The globalist Robot”. These people tend to forget that a majority of the country was mad as hell at the Bill Clit-ton administration because he was renting out the Lincoln bedroom to CHINES business men in exchange for cash and favors. Also these people tend to forget how many nuclear secrets were stolen from our country under the Clit-ton administration. They also do not understand why Clit- ton was impeached by congress for lying under oath. Oh, and they also don’t see what is wrong with a sitting president getting sexual favors from a 21 year old intern in the oval office. Gee he had so much respect for his office didn’t he? 2. They want a free lunch from the government. They do not want to work hard to make it.They are lazy. They also do not realize that the more they depend on government for their security the less freedom they will have. And we all know what happens to countries that our completely controlled by their Governments don’t we? 3. They are people who have been brainwashed by Popular culture and/or Marxist and Communist dope smoking professors/Teachers in our high schools and Universities. 4. They carry a deep seeded ideology that the world is basically good and that if only people would become vegetarians and hold hands we would all be peachy keen with each other. 5. They think that their generation can make Communism work. They think that they are far, far superior to Lennon and Marx’s and Stalin. That they have the secret to “Each According to his needs”. 6. They believe that they can make everyone equal you see? Well everyone except for them that is. After all they are engineering a new and better way of implementing communism. So they naturally believe they should be able to “Live a little better than the masses.” 1.. We hate bush because of his policies 2.. Clinton WASN'T impeached 3.. like he was the first politician that lied 
4.. Republicans ran congress during his term 5.. how is spreadin the wealth gettin a free lunch 6.. EVERYONE IS supposed to be "equal"
I’m not a Bush fan. I am just pointing out how silly Democrats are. They corrupt the country and government just as much as Republicans do. It’s sick. Both parties have blood on their hands and they buy and sell your opinions every day. Media, College indoctrination and popular culture. We have been played by both parties and here you are throwing up the same old “I hate Bush garbage. Ever wonder why Daddy bush and Billy Clinton are such close buddies now?? Think about it. It’s not Dem s vs. Reps …it’s them against us……. 2.. Clinton WASN'T impeached I made a typo – almost was added. 3.. like he was the first politician that lied. And that makes it ok???? You’re funny……. 4.. Republicans ran congress during his term So what?? You want the whole government to be run by one party??? Checks and Balances in Government…you ever heard of that???? 5.. how is spreadin the wealth gettin a free lunch If you did not work for that wealth than you are not entitled to it. It’s a form of theft. It is legalized stealing. 6.. EVERYONE IS supposed to be "equal" No one is ever truly equal. There is always a core of elites in every form of government. I cant believe you don’t understand that. ALL TYPES OF GOVERNMENTS |
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Edited by
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Fri 10/17/08 04:46 PM
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1. They hate Bush and love Clinton and they think that Bush stole his first election from Al Gort also known as “The globalist Robot”. These people tend to forget that a majority of the country was mad as hell at the Bill Clit-ton administration because he was renting out the Lincoln bedroom to CHINES business men in exchange for cash and favors. Also these people tend to forget how many nuclear secrets were stolen from our country under the Clit-ton administration.
They also do not understand why Clit-ton was almost impeached by congress for lying under oath. What is the meaning of is...is???? Oh, and they also don’t see what is wrong with a (MARRIED) sitting president getting sexual favors from a 21 year old intern in the oval office. Gee he had so much respect for his office didn’t he? If you want to know the truth Clit-ton is to blame for Bush being elected! 2. They want a free lunch from the government. They do not want to work hard to make it.They are lazy. They also do not realize that the more they depend on government for their security the less freedom they will have. And we all know what happens to countries that our completely controlled by their Governments don’t we? 3. They are people who have been brainwashed by Popular culture and/or Marxist and Communist dope smoking professors/Teachers in our high schools and Universities. 4. They carry a deep seeded ideology that the world is basically good and that if only people would become vegetarians and hold hands we would all be peachy keen with each other. 5. They think that their generation can make Communism work. They think that they are far, far superior to Lennon and Marx’s and Stalin. That they have the secret to “Each According to his needs”. 6. They believe that they can make everyone equal you see? Well everyone except for them that is. After all they are engineering a new and better way of implementing communism. So they naturally believe they should be able to “Live a little better than the masses.” Read the book: Animal Farm by George Orwell. It's currently being played out for real in the United Stated of America. |
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Edited by
GOALLTHEWAY
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Fri 10/17/08 03:45 PM
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what´s the best thing to do...?
Remember these words always: 
The best things in life are free But you can keep them for the birds and bees Now give me money That's what I want That's what I want, yeah That's what I want You're lovin' gives me a thrill But you're lovin' don't pay my bills Now give me money That's what I want That's what I want, yeah That's what I want Money don't get everything it's true What it don't get, I can't use Now give me money That's what I want That's what I want, yeah That's what I want, wah Money don't get everything it's true What it don't get, I can't use Now give me money That's what I want That's what I want, yeah That's what I want Well now give me money A lot of money Wow, yeah, I wanna be free Oh I want money That's what I want That's what I want, well Now give me money A lot of money Wow, yeah, you need money now, give me money That's what I want, yeah that's what I want |
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That’s basically what I said!!! |
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Get drunk as ****, spend the night at a swingers club and bang someone else’s husband in front of them. That will make you feel better. Oh and don’t forget to bring the ASTROGLIDE!
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Evidence for G.O.D.
University of Arizona professor of psychology and neurology Dr. Gary Schwartz shared how he used science to conclude that nothing happens by chance and that some kind of organizing process must exist. Referring to this process as G.O.D. (Guiding-Organizing-Designing), he contended that an intelligent principle or consciousness is permeated throughout the universe, and "the all is in the small." In developing his position, he tested the claims of Christopher Robinson, the "Dream Detective," known for his precognitive experiences in the dream state. In an experiment they conducted, Robinson's dreams accurately predicted a series of locations in Arizona that Schwartz picked out, months after the dreams. This led Schwartz to believe an ordering process was taking place, and that our minds are a reflection of a great intelligence. He also discussed evidence he derived from Native American sandpaintings, which offer such complexity that we don't see the inherent patterns, as well as the number for Pi, which calculated out to millions of digits appears random, though it's always exactly the same order. Our mind is literally bigger than the universe because we can conceive it that way, he noted. |
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Edited by
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Wed 10/15/08 03:26 PM
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I'm gonna get hated on for this. But if it is true that there is a god and he created us and he is loving and good and can perform miracles. Well why wouldn't he be responsible. Aren't we people who make others responsible for their behavior? If there is a god I make him responsible for not taking care of this mess we live in. If he is capable of performing miracles, then why hasn't he? If he loves us, why doesn't he make sure we are o.k.? A human life is very short when you look at the length of eternity. I mean really most people have a short term view of life. Every thing that you do and say and hear and feel will be gone one day and that will be that. One day your 13 years old the next thing you know you are 25 years old and then time seems to speed up and before you know it you are 60 and then 70 if you even get to live that long. Life is truly only for a short while. This world is not the reality of things as they truly are. Look at life as though it is a dream. It’s a very vivid dream but still just a dream. Before you know it you will wake up in eternity and that is where your experiences will start to become real interesting. Life is a test and it does not last very long. Don’t get so tied up in this place we call earth because you can not take it with you and that is truth. So dont worry, you and I will not have to live in this mess forever. |
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Jesus also said: 1. Bread “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger.” John 6:35 2. Light “I am the light of the world; he who fallows Me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life.” John 8:12 3. Gate “I am the gate; if anyone enters through Me, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.” John 10:9 4. Good Shepherd “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for His sheep.” John 10:11 5. Resurrection and Life “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me shall live even if he dies.” John 11:25 6. Way, Truth, Life “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me.” John 14:6 7. True vine “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.” John 15:1 |
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that's ok BB, what im not sure of is are you asking QS this question above or me? i presume it's her correct? my answer as an x C - would have to be that they all can only see this their god as the father of christ/jesus, so thier is no room for belief in any other god who has a savior son, not jewish or muslim, it's thier way or the highway [of course they will refer to god as stating this also not their loving personal view of love the sinner hate the sin - hmmm?] The question was to QS. Was Jesus ever known for suggesting all must choose His way or Hit the Highway? That just doesn't seem like the Jesus I've learned about. Love the sinner, hate the sin... Human interpretation, I think. OK love - i know the answer but i will becurteous and let QS do the talking. - 
“Was Jesus ever known for suggesting all must choose His way or Hit the Highway?” “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me.” John 14:6 What do you think he meant????? |
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Edited by
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Tue 10/14/08 11:58 AM
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were talking on another thread about mans fall and some say its Satan who caused sin and others Adam and eve for eating and i who say it's god's fault!! So here's my case in a nut shell - god started creation, god knew how everything would go, god decided to allow sin to enter into existence - therefore god is responsible for sin. Inequity was found in Lucifer. Lucifer was the fairest and highest of all the Angels in all of Gods creation. Lucifer chose Pride and Power over God’s Love and Rule. Lucifer is the father of lies and blasphemy. It says in the Bible that God found inequity in him. So Lucifer is the creator of evil. Now you will say that God created the devil and there for God is responsible for evil. That would be wrong. Parents create a child that child grows up to murder and torture 100 families to death. Would you say that the parents are guilty of those crimes or that their child is guilty of those crimes. God gave Satan free will. Unlike Adam and Eve the Devil had access to heavens secrets and Glories. He coveted them for himself. He wanted to be like God or even be above God if he could. Lucifer was created perfect in all his ways, but iniquity was found in him. It was not put there by God. Lucifer created it. ( this is found in Ezekiel 28:15 ) SATAN CREATED EVIL…… evidently you don't read the whole posts, ? parents dont "CREATE" anything, they bring forth that which was endowed upon them to so do. god is the only CREATOR! according to christian and other monotheistic beliefs. A creator can and does create everything not just children, the next pretext you will use is if i am a bird i can bring forth hippos? sorry nice try no cigar, no room for human analogies here - we are talking a omnipotent god who created all!! hmm computers messing up here i will continue in a little bit have to shut down and reboot You obviously do not understand the depth of free will. God created the material ( our body’s and Souls) and we make the chairs and the stairs and the mirrors out of it ( our life experiences through choice). God said in Genesis that he had to kick Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden before they could EAT FROM THE TREE OF LIFE. Why? Because God said: "before they can become like US". The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. God actually saved Adam and Eve here and that is because he loved them so much. That's why he didn’t destroy them and start over. Man!!! you want to talk about having a faithful relationship ...God loved them so much he didn’t crush them like bugs. Which, by the way, he had every right to do. That's true love brother!!! Parents/humans were designed by God and given free will. You can do what you want. You can create things from the materials God has given you. Parents can have children but the child forms its own life eventually. I understand most definitely that no matter what the depth of mans will is that was given by god, it is as a spec of dust as to his will. He didn't crush A&E like bugs because he had plans for them for instance bringing the christ into existence - it would have destroyed his end intents to have wiped out mankind other wise he would have! No i cant do what i want [ and neither can you!] - get real i only have the free will to use within set boundaries both here or in the spirit realm! can i walk into the bank and fill up a garbage bag with money?, you can't be serious. A child does not "form" it's own life, in fact without care in infancy it would die and without training it would be just as adam and eve when it grew. 15 Thou wast perfect <08549> in thy ways <01870> from the day <03117> that thou wast created <01254> (8736), till iniquity <05766> was found <04672> (8738) in thee. Perfect here does not mean perfect it can't! there is only one thing perfect that is supposedly your god! strongs- tamiym - has to mean one of the others given - complete or whole etc.. way [strongs] -derek - means manner, you were complete in all your manner. but to my point i was originally making - GOD created everything - therefore he is responsible for all actions, all good all bad, all else - EVERYTHING!! If he hates sin so much he should not have created and given it's potential to his creations to use, if he's god this would have been in his knowledge to know - so that makes him responsible - period! you can blame Satan/Lucifer till the cows come home - it makes no difference - anyone who understands that god created everything realizes this is his doing not anyone Else's - as i say ""the buck stops with god!!"" A) “I understand most definitely that no matter what the depth of mans will is that was given by god, it is as a spec of dust as to his will.” God does not interfere with mans will unless it goes directly against him. You can see this in the Bible. Hell! You can see it on the T.V. news every night. B) “he had plans for them for instance bringing the Christ into existence” Yes, because the only way he could truly offer man salvation from evil was by the shedding of his son’s innocent blood. Which Jesus freely did for us all. Evil can only be utterly defeated by Gods purity. Something man kind can not fathom. C) “No I cant do what I want [ and neither can you!] - get real i only have the free will to use within set boundaries both here or in the spirit realm! can i walk into the bank and fill up a garbage bag with money?, you can't be serious.” Jesus said we could move mountains with our faith and that the apostles would be able to perform miracles like he did. And they did. Oh you of little faith. D) “A child does not "form" it's own life, in fact without care in infancy it would die and without training it would be just as Adam and Eve when it grew.” You are taking my words out of context and I think you are doing it on purpose. A child grows into and adult. An adult makes his or her own choices. Adam and Eve lost their innocents when they sinned against God. God provided all that they needed up until that point. E) Perfect here does not mean perfect it can't! there is only one thing perfect that is supposedly your god! strongs- tamiym - has to mean one of the others given - complete or whole etc.. way [strongs] -derek - means manner, you were complete in all your manner. Perfect as in “WITH OUT SIN” is what is meant here. F) but to my point i was originally making - GOD created everything - therefore he is responsible for all actions, all good all bad, all else - EVERYTHING!! He is NOT responsible for the choices you and I make. I can’t be any clearer on this point. FREE WILL. The freedom to make your own mind up on who to love, who to hate, who to kill, steal from, rape, help, mentor, lie about, covet, save - on and on and on. Why can’t you understand this??? P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR YOUR SIN. YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR YOUR DAMNATION AND JESUS is to THANK for your SALVATION if you FREELY FOLLOW HIM AND ASK FOR HIS AND HIS FATHERS FORGIVNESS. – NO ONE ELSE IS TO BLAME FOR YOUR SIN BUT YOU. what part of "god created everything" don't you get!! you continue to blame man -one of god's creations for sin? did man create himself? NO! - if god created everything but man would their be any sun as god states as to what sin is? - NO! Unless you can ""prove"" to me that god did not create satan amn the tree of good and ""EVIL"" then your resposes are nothing to me. The whole point is this - would sin or evil exist in creation had god not brought creation forth? That my friend is the crux of my post! Man chooses Sin. We are special to GOD above all other creatures and yes, there would still be sin with out mankind. Remember that a third of Gods Angels were thrown out of heaven because they chose to follow Satan. “Unless you can ""prove"" to me that God did not create Satan and the tree of good and ""EVIL"" then your responses mean nothing to me.” Again, God made everything but he did not give us sin. Satan gave us sin. If you made a child and that child rebelled against you would you be to blame for that child’s choice? “The whole point is this - would sin or evil exist in creation had god not brought creation forth?” Maybe there are dimensions that have no sin. I believe that Heaven exist in another dimension and it has no sin. Hell is in another dimension and it is full of sin. The dimension we live in has Good and Evil. I mean if you want to be scientific about it look up STRING THEORY. It seems to me that you want to blame God for your sin – in a round about way. Well it just doesn’t work that way…sorry. Man kind is a comatose retard with miss firing brain waves compared to the genius of GOD. God created intelligence. So guess what – he is the intelligence that created intelligence. It’s kind of mind blowing when you think about it. God talking to us is like you talking to your DOG. You could tell a dog how an internal combustion engine works and he would just sit there and lick his nuts and keep wondering what you have for him to eat. For God to even bother with us is an honor in it’s self. Let alone the handing over of his son to us so that Jesus could be persecuted ,tortured, taunted, spit on and murdered. Humanity is a bunch of arrogant self centered terds for the most part and God still loves us and tries to help us. The smartest human on the planet, with his /her greatest theory’s has not even scratched the surface of Gods majesty and intelligence. We are MUD. All of humanity is in pre-school and God already has over 2,000,000,000,000 doctorates. SUCK IT UP. sin does not exsist to me -or for me in a biblical sense, so no i'm not trying to use it to justify any of my actions i do or think should be allowed to be done - and comparing god to a number with a quadrillion zero's after is not going to impress me either. So skip the pointless anologies. as far as other dimesions or universes go where sin might not exist, you can leave that out of the equations also - were dealing with "this" creation and gods creative actions as stated in the book! so back to my initial OP, would the potential for sin exist if god had not created all the book says he created? simple question, simple answer - NO! If that's agreed upon then sin came about because of gods desire.need/want/ to create - no creation - no potential for sin - creation as he chose to create - potential for sin. i look at thecore of something to determine the cause - others look at things that eminate from the core problem and see it as the cause- i do not! "would the potential for sin exist if god had not created all the book says he created?" Sin only exists for Man and some angels. So if you take out those Angels and those humans there is no sin. So God does not have to re-due his creation. He only has to wipe the smudge called Evil off of it. So, almost 99.999999 % of creation would still exist with out sin. No other creature on earth sins but man. |
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Edited by
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were talking on another thread about mans fall and some say its Satan who caused sin and others Adam and eve for eating and i who say it's god's fault!! So here's my case in a nut shell - god started creation, god knew how everything would go, god decided to allow sin to enter into existence - therefore god is responsible for sin. Inequity was found in Lucifer. Lucifer was the fairest and highest of all the Angels in all of Gods creation. Lucifer chose Pride and Power over God’s Love and Rule. Lucifer is the father of lies and blasphemy. It says in the Bible that God found inequity in him. So Lucifer is the creator of evil. Now you will say that God created the devil and there for God is responsible for evil. That would be wrong. Parents create a child that child grows up to murder and torture 100 families to death. Would you say that the parents are guilty of those crimes or that their child is guilty of those crimes. God gave Satan free will. Unlike Adam and Eve the Devil had access to heavens secrets and Glories. He coveted them for himself. He wanted to be like God or even be above God if he could. Lucifer was created perfect in all his ways, but iniquity was found in him. It was not put there by God. Lucifer created it. ( this is found in Ezekiel 28:15 ) SATAN CREATED EVIL…… evidently you don't read the whole posts, ? parents dont "CREATE" anything, they bring forth that which was endowed upon them to so do. god is the only CREATOR! according to christian and other monotheistic beliefs. A creator can and does create everything not just children, the next pretext you will use is if i am a bird i can bring forth hippos? sorry nice try no cigar, no room for human analogies here - we are talking a omnipotent god who created all!! hmm computers messing up here i will continue in a little bit have to shut down and reboot You obviously do not understand the depth of free will. God created the material ( our body’s and Souls) and we make the chairs and the stairs and the mirrors out of it ( our life experiences through choice). God said in Genesis that he had to kick Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden before they could EAT FROM THE TREE OF LIFE. Why? Because God said: "before they can become like US". The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. God actually saved Adam and Eve here and that is because he loved them so much. That's why he didn’t destroy them and start over. Man!!! you want to talk about having a faithful relationship ...God loved them so much he didn’t crush them like bugs. Which, by the way, he had every right to do. That's true love brother!!! Parents/humans were designed by God and given free will. You can do what you want. You can create things from the materials God has given you. Parents can have children but the child forms its own life eventually. I understand most definitely that no matter what the depth of mans will is that was given by god, it is as a spec of dust as to his will. He didn't crush A&E like bugs because he had plans for them for instance bringing the christ into existence - it would have destroyed his end intents to have wiped out mankind other wise he would have! No i cant do what i want [ and neither can you!] - get real i only have the free will to use within set boundaries both here or in the spirit realm! can i walk into the bank and fill up a garbage bag with money?, you can't be serious. A child does not "form" it's own life, in fact without care in infancy it would die and without training it would be just as adam and eve when it grew. 15 Thou wast perfect <08549> in thy ways <01870> from the day <03117> that thou wast created <01254> (8736), till iniquity <05766> was found <04672> (8738) in thee. Perfect here does not mean perfect it can't! there is only one thing perfect that is supposedly your god! strongs- tamiym - has to mean one of the others given - complete or whole etc.. way [strongs] -derek - means manner, you were complete in all your manner. but to my point i was originally making - GOD created everything - therefore he is responsible for all actions, all good all bad, all else - EVERYTHING!! If he hates sin so much he should not have created and given it's potential to his creations to use, if he's god this would have been in his knowledge to know - so that makes him responsible - period! you can blame Satan/Lucifer till the cows come home - it makes no difference - anyone who understands that god created everything realizes this is his doing not anyone Else's - as i say ""the buck stops with god!!"" A) “I understand most definitely that no matter what the depth of mans will is that was given by god, it is as a spec of dust as to his will.” God does not interfere with mans will unless it goes directly against him. You can see this in the Bible. Hell! You can see it on the T.V. news every night. B) “he had plans for them for instance bringing the Christ into existence” Yes, because the only way he could truly offer man salvation from evil was by the shedding of his son’s innocent blood. Which Jesus freely did for us all. Evil can only be utterly defeated by Gods purity. Something man kind can not fathom. C) “No I cant do what I want [ and neither can you!] - get real i only have the free will to use within set boundaries both here or in the spirit realm! can i walk into the bank and fill up a garbage bag with money?, you can't be serious.” Jesus said we could move mountains with our faith and that the apostles would be able to perform miracles like he did. And they did. Oh you of little faith. D) “A child does not "form" it's own life, in fact without care in infancy it would die and without training it would be just as Adam and Eve when it grew.” You are taking my words out of context and I think you are doing it on purpose. A child grows into and adult. An adult makes his or her own choices. Adam and Eve lost their innocents when they sinned against God. God provided all that they needed up until that point. E) Perfect here does not mean perfect it can't! there is only one thing perfect that is supposedly your god! strongs- tamiym - has to mean one of the others given - complete or whole etc.. way [strongs] -derek - means manner, you were complete in all your manner. Perfect as in “WITH OUT SIN” is what is meant here. F) but to my point i was originally making - GOD created everything - therefore he is responsible for all actions, all good all bad, all else - EVERYTHING!! He is NOT responsible for the choices you and I make. I can’t be any clearer on this point. FREE WILL. The freedom to make your own mind up on who to love, who to hate, who to kill, steal from, rape, help, mentor, lie about, covet, save - on and on and on. Why can’t you understand this??? P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR YOUR SIN. YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR YOUR DAMNATION AND JESUS is to THANK for your SALVATION if you FREELY FOLLOW HIM AND ASK FOR HIS AND HIS FATHERS FORGIVNESS. – NO ONE ELSE IS TO BLAME FOR YOUR SIN BUT YOU. what part of "god created everything" don't you get!! you continue to blame man -one of god's creations for sin? did man create himself? NO! - if god created everything but man would their be any sun as god states as to what sin is? - NO! Unless you can ""prove"" to me that god did not create satan amn the tree of good and ""EVIL"" then your resposes are nothing to me. The whole point is this - would sin or evil exist in creation had god not brought creation forth? That my friend is the crux of my post! Man chooses Sin. We are special to GOD above all other creatures and yes, there would still be sin with out mankind. Remember that a third of Gods Angels were thrown out of heaven because they chose to follow Satan. “Unless you can ""prove"" to me that God did not create Satan and the tree of good and ""EVIL"" then your responses mean nothing to me.” Again, God made everything but he did not give us sin. Satan gave us sin. If you made a child and that child rebelled against you would you be to blame for that child’s choice? “The whole point is this - would sin or evil exist in creation had god not brought creation forth?” Maybe there are dimensions that have no sin. I believe that Heaven exist in another dimension and it has no sin. Hell is in another dimension and it is full of sin. The dimension we live in has Good and Evil. I mean if you want to be scientific about it look up STRING THEORY. It seems to me that you want to blame God for your sin – in a round about way. Well it just doesn’t work that way…sorry. Man kind is a comatose retard with miss firing brain waves compared to the genius of GOD. God created intelligence. So guess what – he is the intelligence that created intelligence. It’s kind of mind blowing when you think about it. God talking to us is like you talking to your DOG. You could tell a dog how an internal combustion engine works and he would just sit there and lick his nuts and keep wondering what you have for him to eat. For God to even bother with us is an honor in it’s self. Let alone the handing over of his son to us so that Jesus could be persecuted ,tortured, taunted, spit on and murdered. Humanity is a bunch of arrogant self centered terds for the most part and God still loves us and tries to help us. The smartest human on the planet, with his /her greatest theory’s has not even scratched the surface of Gods majesty and intelligence. We are MUD. All of humanity is in pre-school and God already has over 2,000,000,000,000 doctorates. SUCK IT UP. |
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were talking on another thread about mans fall and some say its Satan who caused sin and others Adam and eve for eating and i who say it's god's fault!! So here's my case in a nut shell - god started creation, god knew how everything would go, god decided to allow sin to enter into existence - therefore god is responsible for sin. Inequity was found in Lucifer. Lucifer was the fairest and highest of all the Angels in all of Gods creation. Lucifer chose Pride and Power over God’s Love and Rule. Lucifer is the father of lies and blasphemy. It says in the Bible that God found inequity in him. So Lucifer is the creator of evil. Now you will say that God created the devil and there for God is responsible for evil. That would be wrong. Parents create a child that child grows up to murder and torture 100 families to death. Would you say that the parents are guilty of those crimes or that their child is guilty of those crimes. God gave Satan free will. Unlike Adam and Eve the Devil had access to heavens secrets and Glories. He coveted them for himself. He wanted to be like God or even be above God if he could. Lucifer was created perfect in all his ways, but iniquity was found in him. It was not put there by God. Lucifer created it. ( this is found in Ezekiel 28:15 ) SATAN CREATED EVIL…… evidently you don't read the whole posts, ? parents dont "CREATE" anything, they bring forth that which was endowed upon them to so do. god is the only CREATOR! according to christian and other monotheistic beliefs. A creator can and does create everything not just children, the next pretext you will use is if i am a bird i can bring forth hippos? sorry nice try no cigar, no room for human analogies here - we are talking a omnipotent god who created all!! hmm computers messing up here i will continue in a little bit have to shut down and reboot You obviously do not understand the depth of free will. God created the material ( our body’s and Souls) and we make the chairs and the stairs and the mirrors out of it ( our life experiences through choice). God said in Genesis that he had to kick Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden before they could EAT FROM THE TREE OF LIFE. Why? Because God said: "before they can become like US". The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. God actually saved Adam and Eve here and that is because he loved them so much. That's why he didn’t destroy them and start over. Man!!! you want to talk about having a faithful relationship ...God loved them so much he didn’t crush them like bugs. Which, by the way, he had every right to do. That's true love brother!!! Parents/humans were designed by God and given free will. You can do what you want. You can create things from the materials God has given you. Parents can have children but the child forms its own life eventually. I understand most definitely that no matter what the depth of mans will is that was given by god, it is as a spec of dust as to his will. He didn't crush A&E like bugs because he had plans for them for instance bringing the christ into existence - it would have destroyed his end intents to have wiped out mankind other wise he would have! No i cant do what i want [ and neither can you!] - get real i only have the free will to use within set boundaries both here or in the spirit realm! can i walk into the bank and fill up a garbage bag with money?, you can't be serious. A child does not "form" it's own life, in fact without care in infancy it would die and without training it would be just as adam and eve when it grew. 15 Thou wast perfect <08549> in thy ways <01870> from the day <03117> that thou wast created <01254> (8736), till iniquity <05766> was found <04672> (8738) in thee. Perfect here does not mean perfect it can't! there is only one thing perfect that is supposedly your god! strongs- tamiym - has to mean one of the others given - complete or whole etc.. way [strongs] -derek - means manner, you were complete in all your manner. but to my point i was originally making - GOD created everything - therefore he is responsible for all actions, all good all bad, all else - EVERYTHING!! If he hates sin so much he should not have created and given it's potential to his creations to use, if he's god this would have been in his knowledge to know - so that makes him responsible - period! you can blame Satan/Lucifer till the cows come home - it makes no difference - anyone who understands that god created everything realizes this is his doing not anyone Else's - as i say ""the buck stops with god!!"" A) “I understand most definitely that no matter what the depth of mans will is that was given by god, it is as a spec of dust as to his will.” God does not interfere with mans will unless it goes directly against him. You can see this in the Bible. Hell! You can see it on the T.V. news every night. B) “he had plans for them for instance bringing the Christ into existence” Yes, because the only way he could truly offer man salvation from evil was by the shedding of his son’s innocent blood. Which Jesus freely did for us all. Evil can only be utterly defeated by Gods purity. Something man kind can not fathom. C) “No I cant do what I want [ and neither can you!] - get real i only have the free will to use within set boundaries both here or in the spirit realm! can i walk into the bank and fill up a garbage bag with money?, you can't be serious.” Jesus said we could move mountains with our faith and that the apostles would be able to perform miracles like he did. And they did. Oh you of little faith. D) “A child does not "form" it's own life, in fact without care in infancy it would die and without training it would be just as Adam and Eve when it grew.” You are taking my words out of context and I think you are doing it on purpose. A child grows into and adult. An adult makes his or her own choices. Adam and Eve lost their innocents when they sinned against God. God provided all that they needed up until that point. E) Perfect here does not mean perfect it can't! there is only one thing perfect that is supposedly your god! strongs- tamiym - has to mean one of the others given - complete or whole etc.. way [strongs] -derek - means manner, you were complete in all your manner. Perfect as in “WITH OUT SIN” is what is meant here. F) but to my point i was originally making - GOD created everything - therefore he is responsible for all actions, all good all bad, all else - EVERYTHING!! He is NOT responsible for the choices you and I make. I can’t be any clearer on this point. FREE WILL. The freedom to make your own mind up on who to love, who to hate, who to kill, steal from, rape, help, mentor, lie about, covet, save - on and on and on. Why can’t you understand this??? P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR YOUR SIN. YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR YOUR DAMNATION AND JESUS is to THANK for your SALVATION if you FREELY FOLLOW HIM AND ASK FOR HIS AND HIS FATHERS FORGIVNESS. – NO ONE ELSE IS TO BLAME FOR YOUR SIN BUT YOU. |
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