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I think we can all logically agree that the past does not exist, except as memory, and the future is just a bunch of probabilities. A "prophesy" is someone's prediction or envisioned future probability. There is no guarantee that any prophesy or prediction will happen. The only place you can do anything, think anything, be anything is in this present moment. The present moment (NOW) is all that exists. So why not talk about NOW instead of 2000 year old stories? What is salvation? Definition: sal�va�tion noun THEOLOGY 1. deliverance from sin and its consequences, believed by Christians to be brought about by faith in Christ. The term Christ is a title, equivalent of the Old Testament term messiah and means anointed one. The anointed one delivers the elect from their sin. The Christ has three offices: Prophet, Priest, and King. As Prophet He is the mouthpiece of God (Matt. 5:27-28) and represents God to man. As Priest He represents man to God and restores fellowship between them by offering Himself as the sacrifice that removed the sin of those saved. What is sin: 1. an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law. synonyms: immoral act, wrong, wrongdoing, act of evil/wickedness, transgression, crime, offense, misdeed, misdemeanor; What is faith?noun": 1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something. "this restores one's faith in politicians" synonyms:trust, belief, confidence, conviction; More antonyms: mistrust 2. strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof. What is messiah? mes�si�ah -noun 1. the promised deliverer of the Jewish nation prophesied in the Hebrew Bible. 2. a leader or savior of a particular group or cause. So simplified by these definitions, without worrying about what name you want to call the messiah or savior, I come to a conclusion that I have a question about. Why would you believe that a blood sacrifice removes sin and What is the logic in that? Before the Christ sacrifice, pagans killed animals. Some still do. What does that represent? Food for the beast? Who is the beast? Then there are mythical stories of dragons to whom virgins were sacrificed. What symbolic meaning does that have? In ancient mid evil times, what kind of monster god or devil required a blood sacrifice to forgive the 'sins' of the people? Where did that symbolic myth come from? Or was it real? Were human and animal sacrifices given to some monster god or did the people just imagine there was a god who required blood sacrifice? Hi, yes there is a god that requires human sacrifice to exist probably the devil himself. The sad truth is 1/3 of world's population'Gen 6vs 1-7' rely on these sacrifices to exist. |
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Heaven
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hello,permit me to contribute to your discussion.
In Heaven, You will not live as man, needing food , clothing , housing etc. There is no strife in Heaven which means you do not work the ground to get food. You will never be in conflict with anyone because the devil doesn't exist there to create it. So my dear , Heaven is where your soul rest for ever if it makes it there. |
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Topic:
where are the men 35 to 50 ?
Edited by
hardenman
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Sun 07/14/13 03:28 AM
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I actually avoid the women who say they are looking for the one. I am not the one, I am not Neo in the Matrix. I am just a guy who wants to meet someone to be with and if possible start wanting to be with them more often; maybe want to become a better person for her. This is something that is built up over time, not by meeting "the one" right off the bat. Too many little things can be a stumbling block to being the one. When you get to know and care for a person- maybe a mistimed joke or a slipped out fart, won't suddenly mean I am not the one, but just the guy who wants to be with you because of you. Absolutely,Lmao!!! |
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Topic:
Right and wrong, vs "sin."
Edited by
hardenman
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Sat 07/13/13 06:06 AM
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What is the nature of the guilt that your teachers call [man’s] Original Sin? What are the evils man acquired when he fell from a state they consider perfection? Their myth declares that he ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge—he acquired a mind and became a rational being. It was the knowledge of good and evil—he became a moral being. He was sentenced to earn his bread by his labor—he became a productive being. He was sentenced to experience desire—he acquired the capacity of sexual enjoyment. The evils for which they damn him are reason, morality, creativeness, joy—all the cardinal values of his existence. It is not his vices that their myth of man’s fall is designed to explain and condemn, it is not his errors that they hold as his guilt, but the essence of his nature as man. Whatever he was—that robot in the Garden of Eden, who existed without mind, without values, without labor, without love—he was not man. Man’s fall, according to your teachers, was that he gained the virtues required to live. These virtues, by their standard, are his Sin. His evil, they charge, is that he’s man. His guilt, they charge, is that he lives. They call it a morality of mercy and a doctrine of love for man. No, they say, they do not preach that man is evil, the evil is only that alien object: his body. No, they say, they do not wish to kill him, they only wish to make him lose his body. They seek to help him, they say, against his pain—and they point at the torture rack to which they’ve tied him, the rack with two wheels that pull him in opposite directions, the rack of the doctrine that splits his soul and body. The good, say the mystics of spirit, is God, a being whose only definition is that he is beyond man’s power to conceive—a definition that invalidates man’s consciousness and nullifies his concepts of existence. . . . Man’s mind, say the mystics of spirit, must be subordinated to the will of God. . . . Man’s standard of value, say the mystics of spirit, is the pleasure of God, whose standards are beyond man’s power of comprehension and must be accepted on faith . . . The purpose of man’s life . . . is to become an abject zombie who serves a purpose he does not know, for reasons he is not to question. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/religion.html Awesome! Love it! 
You might say that man's original sin is that he became aware and conscious. Perhaps some inner dimensional alien beings genetically engineered the human body to be a non thinking clone, to be used and possessed as a vehicle. In order to operate in this third density world they needed physical bodies. These inner dimensional beings can enter and possess these bodies, just as we use an automobile. They were not supposed to be more than dumb animals or mindless clones. They had souls, consciousness, morals and knowledge of right and wrong. The original man was not a robot but a much more superior being above everything on earth both in power,widom and majesty,full of love,compassion and trust,which the serpent took advantage of to bring him down. It was He,who gave names to every living thing on earth ,even woman? Don't think a senseless robot can do that? |
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A wolf in sheep clothing is an 'ET' in human skin.
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A true and very inspiring message,spot on.Cheers!
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