I don't claim to know everything, I am not God. I do know what I have seen and experienced in life, and what I have read and studied. I also apologize to you for the fact that I did not take the time to go over my post this morning (or other times) to critique my spelling and grammer. However, I find it rather funny that in your rebuttal, when everything is broken down, all you can do is stand there and say "you are wrong gosh darn it, and you are ignorant as well, as your spelling and grammar shows".

You also go on to tell me that some day someone is going to hit me, and ask what my actions are going to be in that matter. And here is exactly what they have been and will continue to be if the situation arrives again.
first and foremost, I will walk away whenever possible, and yes call the police and file charges as well as a restraining order. I will not fight if I do not have to, and I have great respect for our laws. however, if I ma forced to fight in order to remove myself from the situation, yes you can damn well bet I will hurt the person in doing so. However, again I will walk away as soon as possible, and again file charges, and seek a restraining order.

You see, I was spanked and beaten as a child. I had extension cords used on my backside, along with tree branches, wooden soons, paddles, belts, etc.
I am not a person who goes out and picks fights. I do no tgo out and continue fights if they can be avoided as they settle nothing. However, if forced to defend myself or someone else, yes I will fight until it is no longer neccesarry to do so.

And I spanbk my children, to this day, if they need it. I holler first, or ground them. I use time outs first, I take things away. However if al that doesnt work, you can darn well bet they get a spanking and they know it.
And then after about five minutes, I will sit down with them and discuss everythign with them, and you know what? very rarely do they repeat the offense. Never more than one repeat.

Do I use switches and cords etc on my kids? No. I have used the belt once. other than that, just my hand, once for every two years of age.

So again, I ask you to rethink YOUR position, and see if possibly you might be the one with the wrong attitude here.

Abuse deserves someone stepping in and rpeventiong further abuse, yes. But spanking is not abuse.

Spanking does teach a lesson. The lesson is: �When you don�t know what else to do, hit!� or �When you�re bigger, you can hit,� or �When you�re really angry, you can get your way by hitting.� It�s common knowledge that children who are frequently hit are more likely to accept the use of violence and are more likely to hit other children. It only makes sense, because after all, children learn what they live. Children who are spanked often have more resentment and anger and lower self-esteem.

Positive, respectful, consistent discipline is the real key to raising well-behaved children.

what about the sound of a child laughing, because he just broke another childs nose in a fight? What about the sound of a child laughing cause he (or she) knows they can do anything they want with no worries about punishment or consequences?

Those kids are satill laughing, and they are laughing in genuine pleasure. Would you still c onsider that pleasant as well?

read my other post in here about the human race being animals by nature. The go back to school and take some science classes based on animals and their actions/reactions. Aslo go to your library and check out a good book called lord of the flies. This is an excellent book for all parents to read, and for all those who try and prevent a parent from disciplining their child when needed.

The book describes how a group of castaway children, just old enough to understand what they neeed to do to survive (10 to 14 I think was the age range), group together and literaly revert to savages. And yes I say savages cause that is literally what they became. They killed the one child, out of a twisted and sick pleasure mixed with religion.
Most "learned" spychologists will tell you too that this is a very real possibility under the circumstances those kids faced int he book. They had absouultely no discipline other than basic nature.

And it is getting to where that is the only discipline our children are going to get cause the parents can not intervene any more and prevent them from learnign the hard way, out of fear of going to jail for the rest of their lives.

I truly suggest you step back and look more into the subject before you stand there and psout off that spanking is abuse, and there fore wrong etc. Yes there are other ways that should be tried first. I dont think a single person here would disageree that spanking should be at the end of a very long line of tried disciplines. But it needs to be in there as well.

TallGuy, all human and parental understanding goes out to you. There are definitely distinctions between loving correction and abuse. No one should suffer abuse, but it happens. We feel your pain, both of your upbringing and for your loss.
You seem to have done well, finding some solace in His hand being involved.

Off topic for a sec - we no more understand His fine reasoning than an ant does ours. We do trust that He is working things out to some eternal good and in that there can be some peace. I'm glad you've found that.

No, it's not our business, but your revealing the base of your thoughts is like the mustard seed.

says you.why are the childless peeps such experts? I am neither weak or ignorant.You sir would be the first to ***** if a bratty child ran amok in walmart but want to educate us all on your brillant parenting methods which you have yet to use.Please write a book which no one will buy and will end up in the trash heap along side the other many "how to raise a child"books written by so called experts who are either childess,hate kids or studied them in a controlled environment.I laugh at you!!

I recently moved back to my hometown and it seems that every guy that I run into from my old high school days looks old, bald, and like death warmed over. Is it me or them?

I tell you what, when you have kids of your own, then come back and tell me how to raise my child. Until then, I'll raise her my way and if a swat on the butt is what is needed to "communicate" then that is exactly what I'll do!!!

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Macs RULE

There is no right click on the mouse so you do manual or "file" commands to copy and paste.

why in the hell would u buy a MAC?..lol
Well being a Computer Analyst I know first hand how technology advances..soo the new expensive, top of the line stuff,will be totally outdated in a few months..it really depends on what u are gonna use your PC for..
Brand umm does not really matter,,Sony, Gateway, Toshiba..they are all pretty good..its all about the RAM and Memory, Processors etc...really depends on what u are needing it for..

That never happens to me so how would I know?

I don't think you should give a "no answer" a second thought.

Of course whether you get a response or not probably depends on what kind of message you sent in the first place. If it say just Hi, that does not say a lot.

I have sent emails in response to men's profiles, or pictures and some answer and some don't. The one's who don't I forget about anyway.

Life is to short to spend your time feeling rejected.



It's party time!!

If you got 50 e-mails a day from guys saying"hey cutie" would you take time out of your life to answer them all?