fruit of the loom has wedgie free underwear on the market.

No more picking your seat for the movies.I'm excited.

*this is lindys fault as she said to post a new topic*

Leahmarie,
read this!!

The nationwide poll conducted by Newsweek showed Obama leading McCain by a margin of 51-36 percent, indicating that he might have got a bounce from his recent primary victory over Hillary Clinton.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080621/pl_nm/usa_politics_poll_dc

Most others show him ahead by 6-8 points.
Could it be that Newsweek is the only unbiased source left in America, or are the others correct?

I'll settle for the others. I'm not picky, 6-8 points is still a lead anyway you look at it.



fanta ..... you seem quite confused. In your earlier post you state you do not believe in polls, but here you are quoting more polls. So, which is it? Oh I get it, you are an Obama supporter ..... a flip flopper like Obama.

i think he should focus on MENTAL HEALTH!!

countries, companies, governments merge for different reasons other than friendship sometimes. russia and china are no exception. they each hated america and perhaps still does, thats good enough reason, who knows? i don't.

their ideals of communism. do we know what the future might look like? i assume that usa and china and russia are strong trading partners but are memories of the cold war still lingering????

what do you think?

So what you are saying is that it wont run out "in your lifetime."

How can you say it will not run out at all?

The world is using oil at a tremendous rate. If it is too expensive to extract then it will not be cost effective to use it

It is a finite resource.

The earth doesnt just make it on demand.

You have said it takes millions of years.

Not to worry.
It wont happen!


They are not even a 1st world country!
They have a large military but their technology can hardly compare to ours.
I dont see them being able to do much more than manage to maintain a deterrent force!

Oil ... the current gold.

Without it we are a society set back by 200 years.

It causes wars, unrest and greed.


So, what ARE you going to do when it runs out?

Change for what?! I 'have a plan' but it is not worked out yet change. The "change" but no one knows specifics of what the 'change' is?

Darn right I am afraid of what obama considers 'change.' Put this man in office and say goodby to the USA.

He started out last year by mouthing off to one of our biggest ally's, the Prime Minister of Australia.

He thinks he can sit down and have 'tea and crumpets' with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran.

"July 2, 2008
Today, The Washington Post Reported That Obama Received A Sweetheart Mortgage Deal For His Chicago Mansion:

Obama Received A Discounted Rate On His $1.32 Million Mortgage For His Georgian Mansion In Chicago. "Shortly after joining the U.S. Senate and while enjoying a surge in income, Barack Obama bought a $1.65 million restored Georgian mansion in an upscale Chicago neighborhood. To finance the purchase, he secured a $1.32 million loan from Northern Trust in Illinois. The freshman Democratic senator received a discount. He locked in an interest rate of 5.625 percent on the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage, below the average for such loans at the time in Chicago." (Joe Stephens, "Obama Got Discount On Home Loan," The Washington Post, 7/2/08)

"The Loan Was Unusually Large, Known In Banker Lingo As A 'Super Super Jumbo.' Obama Paid No Origination Fee Or Discount Points, As Some Consumers Do To Reduce Their Interest Rates." (Joe Stephens, "Obama Got Discount On Home Loan," The Washington Post, 7/2/08

Obama's Discounted Rate Could Have Saved Him More Than $300 Per Month. "Compared with the average terms offered at the time in Chicago, Obama's rate could have saved him more than $300 per month." (Joe Stephens, "Obama Got Discount On Home Loan," The Washington Post, 7/2/08)

The Obamas Secured Their Discounted Home Loan Despite The Fact That They Had "No Prior Relationship With Northern Trust When They Applied For The Loan." "The Obamas had no prior relationship with Northern Trust when they applied for the loan. They received an oral commitment on Feb. 4, 2005, and locked in the rate of 5.625 percent, the campaign said. On that date, HSH data show, the average rate in Chicago for a 30-year fixed-rate jumbo loan with no points was about 5.94 percent." (Joe Stephens, "Obama Got Discount On Home Loan," The Washington Post, 7/2/08)

NOTE: Obama Also Has Received $71,000 In Campaign Contributions From Northern Trust Employees. "Since 1990, Northern Trust employees have donated more than $739,000 to federal campaigns, including $71,000 to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics." (Joe Stephens, "Obama Got Discount On Home Loan," The Washington Post, 7/2/08)

FLASHBACK: Obama Paid $300,000 Less Than The Asking Price For His Mansion, While Tony Rezko's Wife Paid Full Price For A Vacant Lot Next Door On The Very Same Day. "Two years ago, Obama bought a mansion on the South Side, in the Kenwood neighborhood, from a doctor. On the same day, [Antoin 'Tony'] Rezko's wife, Rita Rezko, bought the vacant lot next door from the same seller. The doctor had listed the properties for sale together. He sold the house to Obama for $300,000 below the asking price. The doctor got his asking price on the lot from Rezko's wife." (Tim Novak, "Obama And His Rezko Ties," Chicago Sun-Times, 4/23/07)

The Seller Of Obama's Home "Wanted To Sell Both Properties At The Same Time." "On the same day Obama closed on his house, Rezko's wife bought the adjacent empty lot, meeting the condition of the seller who wanted to sell both properties at the same time." (Brian Ross and Rhonda Schwartz, "The Rezko Connection," ABC News' "The Blotter" Blog, abcnews.go.com, 1/10/08)

Obama Later Purchased A Portion Of Rezko's Land For $104,500; It Was Valued At $40,500. "Later, the Obamas bought a 10-foot-by-150-foot piece of the lot for $104,500. An appraisal put the value of the strip at $40,500, a spokesman said, but Obama considered it fair to pay one-sixth of the original price for one-sixth of the lot." (Peter Slevin, "Obama Says He Regrets Land Deal With Fundraiser," The Washington Post, 12/17/06)"

As you can see, obama has a history of funny-bunny real estate financial transactions.

Lindyy

It appears that you did not read or comprehend the text I posted. I will NOT do the math as there is nothing to calculate.

You need to get educated on the truth and not be so afraid of change.

Just look at what was once said about the children's show, Teletubbies. People get crazy.

You and the Washington Post clearly want to characterize this as a serious story.

In this case, there's less here than meets the eye. Nearly four years ago, Obama received a 30-year fixed rate of 5.625 percent. The average at the time was 5.93 percent. As such, it was a good deal, but not a sweetheart deal. Obama had received competing offers from another lender and, as a result, got a more competitive rate. As Oliver Willis, who used to work for a mortgage company, put it, "The idea that the lender gives a few fractions of a percent to a borrower of a jumbo loan is about as common as breathing air." I personally got a rate of 5.75% on my home loan about that same time.

As controversies go, this is pretty thin. Obama got a legitimate mortgage, at a competitive rate. He didn't try to conceal anything, and even posted the records related to his house purchase on his website.

As the Chicago Tribune's Swamp blog concluded, "Obama's political opponents will certainly try to make something out of this story. But contrary to the famous adage, not all smoke means there's a fire."

Most news organizations have dropped the story you cite on your thread as they have seen it has no merit. Yet, you continue to spread this propaganda as though it were newsworthy.

Very lame.