This had to be the funniest, yet most pointless thread I've read in quite a long while.

PS You can clean an iron with napalm effectively, but the the plastic parts tend to vaporize.

Fossil natural gas can be "associated" (found in oil fields) or "non-associated" (isolated in natural gas fields), and is also found in coal beds (as coalbed methane). It sometimes contains significant quantities of ethane, propane, butane, and pentane—heavier hydrocarbons removed prior to use as a consumer fuel—as well as carbon dioxide, nitrogen, helium and hydrogen sulfide.[1] Natural gas is commercially produced from oil fields and natural gas fields. Gas produced from oil wells is called casinghead gas or associated gas. The natural gas industry is producing gas from increasingly more challenging resource types: sour gas, tight gas, shale gas and coalbed methane.
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Natural gas is natural only due to fossil fuels. I should of said that instead of oil.

You guys realize that California has the highest combined taxes in the whole US, right behind Hawaii? So raising the taxes on something already that high is going to have the opposite affect, companies not able to do business there, will leave to move to less taxed states. Making the unemployment go up faster and have less tax money coming in. The problem in California is with spending of tax money, not what percent they bring in.

Problem is, natural gas is a byproduct of oil, thus still needs oil. And I actually looked it up and now these cars get great gas mileage on CNG. But the problem is, there aren't enough fueling stations and the prices jump during cold months due to demand. And there is less natural gas than oil, so a mass switch over would disrupt prices dramatically. But its interesting, didn't know that CNG tech had advanced so well in the last few years.

CNG, which is a byproduct of oil and is less efficient than its oil counterparts. Which is the same reason Corn based fuel isn't going to go any place. Because it cost more to make ethanol fuel than they can sell it for. The only reason ethanol is viable is through subsidies. And it actually is worse for the environment, because it less efficient and causes more green house gases while being produced and used.

The same thinking was applied to coal about 100 years ago, but the internal combustion engine and oil changed all that. But as of right now, there is NOTHING in production or even on paper that will change power output to be more efficient and less polluting than what we have now. This tax is kinda like saying, hey, you're alive, gimme 10% of your paycheck. Oh wait, you live in a state where its brutally cold in the winter, better make that 15%. Its just ridiculous, but this is what everyone voted for, which is sad.

Yea nuclear energy is the future, but the eco-friendly terrorists stopped that. Nuclear energy is about the most efficient form of energy out there and is a great source of energy to bridge the gap between gas/oil and renewable. But that options isn't even considered, but taxing the air we breathe isn't the answer.

As of right now, it isn't. But that's exactly what they want to do. The problem is, oil is still so cheap, there is no incentive to switch to anything else. But taxing the air we breathe isn't going to change anything in short or long term.

Exactly, but they don't want dependency free oil, they just don't want oil used at all. They don't care about what happens to the economy or anything. Which is kinda amusing, cause most of the eco-friendly terrorists have private jets to wisk them around, but they don't count those as evil emissions.

Well true, but the same eco-friendly terrorists have made it impossible to drill for oil here, to help push us along to being less dependent, but that's never brought up. Its all about how evil oil is.

Just think, China has zero emission laws and are going to surpass the US in oil consumption in the next few years. Never thought of the US outsourcing to China, but its gonna happen. Thus EVERYthing will come from China, well, maybe not good HD TVs and high end electronics, but damn near everything else.

Vanilla Ice!

Ture what?

Nirvana, STP, The Cure, Duran Duran, and for the love of God, New Kids on the Block!

Climate change people always make me laugh. The only way we're going to get away from oil is two scenarios, oil runs out or gets too expensive to use. And then there will be cause to change, but until then, they should let the market decide what's good for the US, not a law that taxes an already struggle economy. If renewable energy was viable and cost effective, you'd see every energy company in the WHOLE country start to make the switch, but besides dams and nuclear energy, there is no other source that's cost effective. And all the dams that can be built, already are just about and because of eco-friendly terrorists, we can't build anymore nuclear power plants. So if you want to pay higher taxes now on dreams of a better society in 10 years, you're delusional. We're about 30 years out at least to find a mostly renewable, cost effective, efficient, and pollution free sources of energy. This bill plans on taxing the hell outta people for just using energy and has no concrete source of where those taxes will go, besides hand outs and bureaucratic BS. But anyway, doesn't matter what we think, because Obama has a dream, and it doesn't include a strong, employed, or safe America.

Meh, too many obscene standards, I tend to shy away from those types of people. Some imperfect woman wanting THE perfect man? You play with the cards you're dealt, all women can't be super models, but quite a few have standards like they are.

And I've met 2 off here, 1 was psycho and the other was great, but didn't work out for whatever reason.

Some people put celebrities up on a pedestal and worship them. When Carlin died, I mourned his passing for a couple days, because he inspired me to be the sorta comedian I am, but he barely got news time. But Jackson dies, and its a trip down memory lane for most news agencies. I just don't see rehashing everything someone has done in the news, specially a pedophile, but hey, what do I know right?

Oh fridays are grand. But while the rest of you are just going to or sitting at work, I just got off work, so I'm gonna drink a beer, take a nap, and glad my work week is done.

That answer is so subtly funny, I can't help but giggle.

I guess the old saying, even a blind, retarded, 3 legged, no tailed, bald squirrel can find a nut on occasion, about sums it up.