giving is better than receiving

as in presents

giving is better than receiving

as in presents

Seems like maybe your just a bit shy..and thats ok. I use to be that way when I was younger. but as I live life, it taught me there nothing really to be "shy" or "scared" of. It could also be due to my own life. I have my own motto .. "I fear so little, because I have overcome so much".

As for what do you say to a woman?? Just be yourself. An example..going to use Hawaii for this..I hope she does not mind.

"Hi Hawaii, my name is Steve. I had read your post and seen your profile and just wanted to introduce myself and say hello. You have a GREAT smile! And it seems we have some things in common,like music, concerts, walking on the beach, etc., maybe we could chat sometime?

If you're interested in chatting, hit me back! Hope to hear from you!

Take Care!
Steve "

Thats basically it. Nothing fancy, its just a "hi" and an introduction. No "lines" no games, no bs.

Just my opinion. I'm single and no date...so maybe I'm just wrong!

Does anyone else have any good advice?

As a fellow published author (and about to be so again in the near future), I can tell you about my experiences here.

I used to believe that the ability to write well -- to assemble something coherent, thought-provoking, amusing, relevant -- would serve me well on a site heavily reliant upon the written word.

And I have posted over 6000 times in the past year -- and have received a great deal of feedback, the vast majority of it positive, and have corresponded with dozens of great people I now think of as friends, people I never would have met if not for this venue.

BUT -- insofar as meeting someone for dating is concerned, I could be John freakin' Updike and I'd never get a date here!

I used to try to send little "Welcome" notes to new local people on the site. They never responded. Eventually I just gave up on writing to anyone first -- for whatever reason, it just doesn't work -- and decided to let them contact me.

And THAT has worked -- I get plenty of e-mail here -- almost entirely from people who saw something I wrote in the forums. And that's fine; I enjoy discussing all kinds of topics, and I have ongoing conversations with many of these people.

But, in all honesty -- and with one exception -- I have never received an e-mail here from anyone I would consider datable. That probably has more to do with my own personal standards than anything else. The one exception occurred when an ex-girlfriend set up an account here solely for the purpose of getting in touch with me after two years; she is very datable, but of course I knew her long before I ever found JSH, so that doesn't really count!

So, my roundabout and convoluted comment to your original post is that I don't even bother trying to break the ice anymore -- it never works.

If THEY want to break the ice, it's up to THEM. I answer all my e-mails, unlike so many of the people I tried to communicate with in the past. I see it as common courtesy. But I'm not going to waste any more time chasing anyone here.

I think it is easier for a woman to break the ice.
As guys I think sometimes we're afraid of rejection, so we don't aproach.

I'm a guy w/plenty of female friends, for the most part they aproach me.

Must be sense of humor, sure ain't looks.

HUH! Must be my puter cause all it shows is a blank box

i would think it's much easier for a woman to approach a man. maybe it's just how i react but it seems like i'm more open to a woman coming up and talking to me then what they seem to be when i talk to them. perhaps it's the fear of rejection thing that makes it change. when somebody comes up to you, you have no fear of rejection because you know their already interested. but turnt hat around when you go up to somebody you have no idea what their thinking so it makes it a lot more difficult. or it could be that i'm slightly retarded......