Following the arguments made on this issue here in this thread and the thread on scolding is akin to engaging an abusive partner. The solution is to no loner to engage them as they only seek drama and a reason to justify their behavior.

i don't think just because shes a woman she should be treated special... when it is known that she deserves the pedestal, then I'll place her on it...

how do they contradict exactly?

everyone IS different

and some abusive people spank

but not everyone who spanks is abusive


that is why I am not berating those who don't spank and saying it worked with THEIR KIDS

just as it would be respectful for them not to continue berating those who spank and say it works with THEIR KIDS ( ,, that's where kids being DIFFERENT comes in..spanking helps some and not others)

You know I Work with the public. I see neglectful parenting. Sometimes I intervene. If a child is about to fall or get hurt and the parent doesn't correct the problem they just smile and say your gonna fall and get hurt one hundred times. But if a kid is being loud or just annoying. I do nothing. Once my child was sick. I had to bring him to the pharmacy and he was in the buggy crying and carrying on because he felt bad when a woman leaned over and said to him "young man if you don't stop that your mother is going to take you and leave!" BIG MISTAKE on her part! I don't like to talk about what happened next because it wasn't nice on my part. I'm crazy when it comes to my kids. I'm okay with others intervening when it prevents someone from getting hurt otherwise mind your own business.

Don't feel bad.
I was slightly miffed when my 70 year old father was dating more than me,
When I was 35.

The topic is scolding.

Scolding can be verbal abuse. Taking apart the language to meet your personal definitions isn't addressing the topic.

Those who like to imagine the worst case scenarios of children acting up or out of control have no knowledge or understanding of non-violent parenting.

Those who suggest that children raised by non-violent means will grow up without understanding discipline or consequences also do not understand non-violent parenting.

On the side issue of spanking:

Spanking is physical abuse. It is not necessary for teaching children about discipline. It is not a necessary consequence for a child that has failed to behave or follow rules.

To suggest that there is a balance between spanking and abuse is called minimizing.

The relationship between domestic violence and how children are raised has been well documented.

I choose a path that is not popular nor convenient. It requires more effort on me as a parent. It is especially challenging for me as a single parent. It is worth my effort for my child .

The years of practicing non-violent parenting with my child are proof of the success of the method. I base my conclusions on my experience with my child.

And last:

I am grateful to (((Mariah))) and (((Estelle))) for their courage to speak out against abusive behavior against children. Being in the minority in our beliefs does not make us wrong.

Usually kids act up because they are confused, stressed, overtired, angry...it's not simply to get away with disobeying you, there is always something going on...emotionally/mentally..so punishing them only makes them feel worse, more confused, more stressed... and they still have the problem even if you don't see it. Do you care? Do you want the child to be a stranger and not share their feelings with you? You would probably ground them for being difficult never mind. They should be robots and shut up and do as you say until they're 18 then get out of your house the next day, but they better remember you every mother's day and thank you for spanking them right?

I confirm it by my son and many generations. Speak your mind. When you talk about "you" you talk about many. If whatever you do with your kid works, great. My kid is my best friend and thinks this is ridiculous