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Fri 11/25/11 12:39 PM


Tell the people in Israel they can all move to America.

Most of them have dual citizenship anyway.

If they are surrounded by people who hate them and they can't get along with their neighbors, they should just leave.

Tell them to move to America. They claim to control it anyway.

laugh laugh
see what I mean?rofl


Now why am I reminded of Helen Thomas here rofl

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Fri 11/25/11 12:25 PM

Where is the real proof that they were planning to invade?

Yes, I favor an Israel nonexistence. If they can't get along with their neighbors they should move.





Ahhhaaaaa - now we have it ladies and gentleman. Jenniebean would "favour Israel's nonexistence."

So that is it = in a nutshell. You don't grasp facts of history simply because you don't want to grasp these facts.

This thread is due for a lock-down methinks.

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Fri 11/25/11 12:22 PM






That is exactly the position Israel was in. It is so obvious. Israel was on the brink of being anialated in a day or so. Surely you must grasp that fact.



Why do you think that?
Did Egypt have weapons of Mass destruction?




Israel was surround by enemies ammasing at Israel's borders. They were threatening anialation because of course they knew they would win as Israel was hugely outnumbered. And yes, they did have weapons of mass destruction in the form of huge numbers of military personnel and unlimited amount of weapons.




Do you have any proof that enemies were ammassing at Israel's borders?

The USS Liberty was a spy ship that picked up all of the electronic and radio communications in that area.

If there were enemies "amassing" against Israel they would have known about it. There would have been positive proof of that from the USS Liberty Spy ship.

And yet, Israeli, attacked that ship.





Yes, there is proof - I posted proof and Conrad too. Do you not read links?




What kind of proof? I want real proof.

If a Spy ship did not detect this information I don't think you have any real proof.




What is a spy ship got to do with you being angry at Israel's pre-emptive strikes of Israel on Egypt. I thought that was what the topic was.

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Fri 11/25/11 12:17 PM




That is exactly the position Israel was in. It is so obvious. Israel was on the brink of being anialated in a day or so. Surely you must grasp that fact.



Why do you think that?
Did Egypt have weapons of Mass destruction?




Israel was surround by enemies ammasing at Israel's borders. They were threatening anialation because of course they knew they would win as Israel was hugely outnumbered. And yes, they did have weapons of mass destruction in the form of huge numbers of military personnel and unlimited amount of weapons.




Do you have any proof that enemies were ammassing at Israel's borders?

The USS Liberty was a spy ship that picked up all of the electronic and radio communications in that area.

If there were enemies "amassing" against Israel they would have known about it. There would have been positive proof of that from the USS Liberty Spy ship.

And yet, Israeli, attacked that ship.





Yes, there is proof - I posted proof and Conrad too. Do you not read links?


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Fri 11/25/11 12:15 PM

If you believe that it is right and justified for Israel to attack Egypt because they were afraid they might be attacked, then would you also justify going out and killing all of your perceived enemies in their own homes?




Israel was not afraid they might be attacked. War against Israel was only within a couple of hours of happening.


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Fri 11/25/11 12:11 PM


That is exactly the position Israel was in. It is so obvious. Israel was on the brink of being anialated in a day or so. Surely you must grasp that fact.



Why do you think that?
Did Egypt have weapons of Mass destruction?




Israel was surround by enemies ammasing at Israel's borders. They were threatening anialation because of course they knew they would win as Israel was hugely outnumbered. And yes, they did have weapons of mass destruction in the form of huge numbers of military personnel and unlimited amount of weapons.


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Fri 11/25/11 11:59 AM
Edited by 5apphire on Fri 11/25/11 11:59 AM



Defend themselves when they are attacked. NOT invade.

Do you know the difference between defending yourself and going down the street and bombing someone's house or shooting someone?

In Colorado we have the "make my day" law. If someone breaks into our house and we are in fear of our life, we can shoot them.

But we can't go to their house and shoot them.

Do you see the difference?

Defense is not attacking or invading because you are afraid what someone might do or because you know that your neighbor has weapons.

geeeze.





That is exactly the position Israel was in. It is so obvious. Israel was on the brink of being anialated in a day or so. Surely you must grasp that fact.

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Fri 11/25/11 11:49 AM




Why did Israel (and possibly America was involved) attack Egypt?


When,where,how?
ConspiracyCentral.com?


Its history.

your favorite source Wiki.

also known as the June War, 1967 Arab-Israeli War, or Third Arab-Israeli War, was fought between June 5 and 10, 1967, by Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt (known at the time as the United Arab Republic), Jordan, and Syria.
you better learn what happened then!
From Intenational Sources!
Like I said before,your clueless posting doesn't make things better!
Inform yourself!
Don't just use a few Tidbits,then make up your own facts!

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1948to1967_sixday_backgd.php

The way things were developing,Israel definitely wasn't going to let the same Situation occur as did in '48/'49!





Do you think Jenniebean has got it yet Conrad?

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Fri 11/25/11 11:47 AM
Edited by 5apphire on Fri 11/25/11 11:48 AM

To claim that the six day war was a "miracle" is outrageous bad taste and a manipulation of religious fervor glorifying aggression, murder and war.

Its shameful propaganda.





That film is exactly how it is. My relatives there were all too aware believe me of the impending war. There was proof of an impending war not only in Israel media but worldwide. What do you think Israel should have done then with enemies ready for war and about to attack?


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Fri 11/25/11 11:41 AM

They have been waging war on their enemies for a very long time, and they expect everyone to forgive and forget.




On the contrary, it's the other way round.

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Fri 11/25/11 11:36 AM
FOR JENNIEBEAN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS295nU-NxM

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Fri 11/25/11 11:31 AM

Why did Israel (and possibly America was involved) attack Egypt?




What do you mean.

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Fri 11/25/11 11:26 AM



Israel was founded, in the beginning, on TERRORISM. Facts are facts. They are not to be trusted when they talk of peace.

Should the Native Americans have trusted our government?

Nope.

Its the same thing.



What counts is here and NOW. Israel has done everything possible to get peace, made every concession possible. Israel is still in a state of war with her neighbours. Israel goes over and beyond helping the citizens of her enemies even during a war. Quite honestly I think you are not informed of current events at all.


I don't think you are informed of current events at all.


On the contrary I am very informed. What have I said that was incorrect then?

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Fri 11/25/11 11:22 AM

Israel was founded, in the beginning, on TERRORISM. Facts are facts. They are not to be trusted when they talk of peace.

Should the Native Americans have trusted our government?

Nope.

Its the same thing.



What counts is here and NOW. Israel has done everything possible to get peace, made every concession possible. Israel is still in a state of war with her neighbours. Israel goes over and beyond helping the citizens of her enemies even during a war. Quite honestly I think you are not informed of current events at all.

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Fri 11/25/11 11:16 AM



All that proves is that without war, weapons, guns etc., the world economy is in the toilet.

It really is all about money, and no world power really wants peace.
They all pretend they want peace but that is the last thing they want. That would ruin the economy.




It doesn't "prove" that at all...Predictable but flawed statement....


Not a flawed statement at all.
(But according to Cowboy, there is no such thing as proof of anything anyway.)laugh

Proof is only a matter of belief as per the evidence. (Its proof enough for me.)

Israel says they want peace, but they pissed too many of their neighbors off and so now what their neighbors want is revenge. There is no trusting Israel now. Their claims of wanting peace is pretty much a lie.

War is big business.








On the contrary, Israel has made far far more concessions than it should. If Israel existing pisses people off as you say, then tough. Israel has behaved far better than other countries that are at war.

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Fri 11/25/11 11:16 AM
Edited by 5apphire on Fri 11/25/11 11:16 AM



All that proves is that without war, weapons, guns etc., the world economy is in the toilet.

It really is all about money, and no world power really wants peace.
They all pretend they want peace but that is the last thing they want. That would ruin the economy.




It doesn't "prove" that at all...Predictable but flawed statement....


Not a flawed statement at all.
(But according to Cowboy, there is no such thing as proof of anything anyway.)laugh

Proof is only a matter of belief as per the evidence. (Its proof enough for me.)

Israel says they want peace, but they pissed too many of their neighbors off and so now what their neighbors want is revenge. There is no trusting Israel now. Their claims of wanting peace is pretty much a lie.

War is big business.









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Fri 11/25/11 06:34 AM
So as they say "get 20 Jews in a room and you will get 100 opinions," so let's here them.............

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Fri 11/25/11 06:12 AM
I see the world in a very sorry state at the moment and it's getting worse. That makes me sound a depressive??? No, it makes me sound a realist.

Wouldn't it be great to turn the clock back just a few years - then I would be able to give you a much more positive answer.

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Fri 11/25/11 06:07 AM
Edited by 5apphire on Fri 11/25/11 06:19 AM
Coffee, or perhaps something stronger!

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Thu 11/24/11 10:19 PM

she is completely perfect now. Rarely cries. Such a happy loving baby. :) thanks for all advice though


I am pleased she is well now. It is hard with young babies, and believe me even when their are in their twenties, (as in my case) it is just as hard!!!