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Fri 03/23/12 01:24 PM


Basically it comes down to that law being flimsy and dangerous.

This is not the wild wild west and we sure as heck don't want to return to those times by any means.

But we are speaking of the south and they take a while to catch up down there to human equality and human dignity and human respect from my experience.


I have shown this line of reasoning to be fallacious, yet you continue to use it.


That is because you haven't "shown" a dang thing other than your very biased opinion.

Which are like a holes everyone has one.

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Fri 03/23/12 01:23 PM

Oh but we do.

We have all heard the 911 tapes and he did follow after being told not and that was before the shooting so he was hunting.

It was obvious from a few words exchanged on the tapes. I know you heard the tapes right?
This is following, which is not illegal.

Please explain to me where on the force Continuum following lays?

Do you know what the force continuum is? Can you explain its applicability?

since the boy did at some point beat him, it will be zimmermans word against a corpse about what 'started' the confrontation, and by stand your law, that might not matter either,,,,
You keep parroting on about SYG, even after I have shown that based on the witness testimony it is not a factor in this case.

That we have a possible lack (I say possible becuase the police have no relased all the witness testimony yet) of evidence is not an argument against SYG. This is the logical inconsistency I am arguing against here.

You know, Zimmerman has done a great disservice to the second amendment community, I wish this had never happened. I am all about non-confrontational tactics when dealing with these kinds of situations, HOWEVER I am all about logical thought, proper use of the law, and NOT violating a persons rights becuase we the community want "heads to roll" That leads to anarchy.



Following with the intention of harm is hunting, you didn't know that?

I figured you hunted.

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Fri 03/23/12 01:19 PM
Basically it comes down to that law being flimsy and dangerous.

This is not the wild wild west and we sure as heck don't want to return to those times by any means.

But we are speaking of the south and they take a while to catch up down there to human equality and human dignity and human respect from my experience.


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Fri 03/23/12 01:12 PM






:wink: I feel threatened by the right wing fanatics trying to take away my rights, I guess I need to "stand and deliver" eh???happy laugh Only I wouldn't use a stupid gun because they are stupid. I would use a net and restrain them all and tickle the shyte out them until they say uncle.
What rights are you referring to, the right to due process, the civil rights which prevent Zimmerman from being arrested without probably cause? . . . and which right wing fanatics?

This post just seems like baiting to me. Be specific please.


Baiting what a tickle fest?

Where have you been? Women's rights are under attack all over the place on the right wing aisle these days, sheesh.
Name one. Ill help you fight for it, just make a logical case and you will have my support. My main focus politically is supporting individual rights. I support the ACLU, I support the NRA, I support all organizations which work to secure the rights laid out in the constitution and BOR.

Stand your ground is VERY important for individual rights.


Since you are a member of the Aclu good place to start go to their site and hit the women's rights button and there will be lists.

Hope you being male can understand the fight, it seems hard for men to understand since they don't have uterus' or the health issues that go with having a woman's body.
What does this have to do with Stand your ground?


Do you read your post above mine?

That will answer your question.

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Fri 03/23/12 01:11 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 03/23/12 01:13 PM



He did hunt him down.
Do you think following is the same as hunting someone down?

What is the difference between following and hunting someone down?

These are exactly the kinds of questions that must be answered for you to reach these conclusions, and when a person does not do the work to answer these questions the conclusions they reach are flawed.

Being a critical thinker this is the only reason I care about this case. The worst kind of thought is being used here, emotional rhetoric with 0 objective criteria.


You are lying here. Sorry.

You do care and you are defending a flimsy stupid gun stupid law because it has shown itself for the stupidity of what it is.

OH He hunted after being told to stop following, with a gun, with intention, that is hunting. Sorry for the disappointment I know you feel over that.
I have made logical arguments, counter than with logical arguments of your own. Otherwise your just posting to stir up resentment which is against the forum rules.

The law in question deals with how contact is initiated, and if a person breaks off contact, then the other party reengages. Please do read the original post for clarification. (not that we the public have any information regarding these details: which is the foundation of my argument, without these details you CANNOT know who was responsible for the escalation of the fight)


Oh but we do.

We have all heard the 911 tapes and he did follow after being told not to and that was before the shooting so he was hunting.

It was obvious from a few words exchanged on the tapes. I know you heard the tapes right?

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Fri 03/23/12 01:09 PM




:wink: I feel threatened by the right wing fanatics trying to take away my rights, I guess I need to "stand and deliver" eh???happy laugh Only I wouldn't use a stupid gun because they are stupid. I would use a net and restrain them all and tickle the shyte out them until they say uncle.
What rights are you referring to, the right to due process, the civil rights which prevent Zimmerman from being arrested without probably cause? . . . and which right wing fanatics?

This post just seems like baiting to me. Be specific please.


Baiting what a tickle fest?

Where have you been? Women's rights are under attack all over the place on the right wing aisle these days, sheesh.
Name one. Ill help you fight for it, just make a logical case and you will have my support. My main focus politically is supporting individual rights. I support the ACLU, I support the NRA, I support all organizations which work to secure the rights laid out in the constitution and BOR.

Stand your ground is VERY important for individual rights.


Since you are a member of the Aclu good place to start go to their site and hit the women's rights button and there will be lists.

Hope you being male can understand the fight, it seems hard for men to understand since they don't have uterus' or the health issues that go with having a woman's body.

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Fri 03/23/12 01:04 PM

He did hunt him down.
Do you think following is the same as hunting someone down?

What is the difference between following and hunting someone down?

These are exactly the kinds of questions that must be answered for you to reach these conclusions, and when a person does not do the work to answer these questions the conclusions they reach are flawed.

Being a critical thinker this is the only reason I care about this case. The worst kind of thought is being used here, emotional rhetoric with 0 objective criteria.


You are lying here. Sorry.

You do care and you are defending a flimsy stupid gun stupid law because it has shown itself for the stupidity of what it is.

OH He hunted after being told to stop following, with a gun, with intention, that is hunting. Sorry for the disappointment I know you feel over that.

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Fri 03/23/12 01:01 PM


:wink: I feel threatened by the right wing fanatics trying to take away my rights, I guess I need to "stand and deliver" eh???happy laugh Only I wouldn't use a stupid gun because they are stupid. I would use a net and restrain them all and tickle the shyte out them until they say uncle.
What rights are you referring to, the right to due process, the civil rights which prevent Zimmerman from being arrested without probably cause? . . . and which right wing fanatics?

This post just seems like baiting to me. Be specific please.


Baiting what a tickle fest?

Where have you been? Women's rights are under attack all over the place on the right wing aisle these days, sheesh.

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Fri 03/23/12 12:58 PM


Considering it is a set up for what just wrongfully happened that in and of itself is the main problem.

If a person is of the mind set that all hispanic kids are criminal and he feels he can "stand" and shoot for absolutely no other reason but with the flimsy stupid law in his favor he gets away with it.

Idiots with guns have been our problem in this country for a long time. None of the non idiots ever save the day with said guns either mostly because most non idiots don't need or have a gun.



thats what complicates it further dragoness, that a physical altercation occured between assuming the boy was criminal and shooting him

and because noone knows for certain the circumstances of the altercation other than at some point the boy was winning,,,,


this law may justify the shooting due to lack of DEFINITIVE evidence of who was the 'aggressor'


Well and criminals do tend to silence their victims so that "dead men tell no tales". He did hunt him down.

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Fri 03/23/12 12:56 PM
:wink: I feel threatened by the right wing fanatics trying to take away my rights, I guess I need to "stand and deliver" eh???happy laugh Only I wouldn't use a stupid gun because they are stupid. I would use a net and restrain them all and tickle the shyte out them until they say uncle.

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Fri 03/23/12 12:51 PM
Considering it is a set up for what just wrongfully happened that in and of itself is the main problem.

If a person is of the mind set that all hispanic kids are criminal and he feels he can "stand" and shoot for absolutely no other reason but with the flimsy stupid law in his favor he gets away with it.

Idiots with guns have been our problem in this country for a long time. None of the non idiots ever save the day with said guns either mostly because most non idiots don't need or have a gun.

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Fri 03/23/12 12:46 PM
Even though I do have issues with him being too religious and stuff, he is a good man and has done good by this country.

I will vote for him again based on his merits.

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Fri 03/23/12 12:44 PM
It is a good thing that it is becoming more mainstream to be religionless especially the major religions which are the great destructors.

Next we need to get it out of the government and schools so it can be practiced at home where the founders wanted it to be.

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Fri 03/23/12 12:40 PM

wow....
i was raised super-religious, and it never resonated within me.
finding that religion did not make any true sense to me,,,was a gradual, painful thing.


I do understand. I am still working through the damage it has done to me.

But life is so much better without it. If I had only known then what I know now.:thumbsup:

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Thu 03/22/12 10:27 PM
noway slaphead

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Thu 03/22/12 10:21 PM
In my search for information I ran across an atheist site that offers recovery from religion for those who need help shaking the monkey of religion off their back.

It makes sense that this could be helpful for many people as religion has been allowed to run rampant and has been deceptively taught as the only answer to morality, problem solving, recovery, grieving, etc... And in truth it only makes a person sicker in the end. Makes their lives more empty.

I am going to check into it and see what kind of good stuff they have.

:thumbsup:

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Thu 03/22/12 10:12 PM
Heads need to roll on this one.

The man shot an unarmed 17 year old based on skin color alone.

I have been informed by whites in the south personally that a black person enter their neighborhood after dark especially, they won't come out alive.

So this just verifies that some of them mean it.

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Thu 03/22/12 10:06 PM
It was a better journey with Obama at the helm.

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Tue 03/20/12 05:19 PM



I use.....Dynomite.......

Nuttin stands in my way!!!!!!

laugh smokin laugh


LOL I can relate.

Been a warrior woman all my life. I just chose some wrong battles along the way.


There are no wrong battles in life. You gotta fight for what you gotta fight for. The outcome (like losing) has nothing to do with whether the fight or the battle was right or wrong.


Love it. :thumbsup:

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Tue 03/20/12 04:52 PM
laugh

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