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Wed 08/19/09 10:00 AM

many women in particular see this as a 'safe' option

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exactly drinker

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Wed 08/19/09 10:00 AM




love is what u make it


In my opinion, love just is, there is nothing deliberate about it.


what u make of it then.imo it isn't love just is love has to be worked at. if only it were as simple as being just is.


Well imo, love comes easy, and doesnt require work, but the actual relationship does.


well i'm glad it comes easy for some ppl but it doesn't for everyone.

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Wed 08/19/09 09:58 AM

I'm not sure the question was about the sexual act however i can assure u it is a lot easier for a man to 'perform' than one may think and this does not necessarily make one bi.


for me, there'd have to be some sexual aspect to the relationship before i were able to completely fall in love, whether it be the actual act, or a helluva lot of innuendo flirtations about it.

if a man were gay and leading me on in that way, i doubt i'd be able to maintain a friendship with him after - i don't stay friends with liars, whether they lie to me, to others, or to themselves.


what if the other party IS NOT leading u on? it happens.

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Wed 08/19/09 09:56 AM






i don't think i could get to the point of being in love with someone and not know their sexual orientation.

surely, there'd have to be at least some reciprocation on their part before the feelings progressed to that level.




This is my opinion also, thanks Lisa! :thumbsup:


unfortunately there are a great deal of gay men and women who do reciprocate and marry/live with members of the opposite sex for whatever their reasons may be. also a great deal of women fall in love with and again marry/live with gay men and again for whatever reasons. so i suppose it's not always as clear cut as we would like to believe (imo)


Theres a diff between reciprocating, and loving someone back. Ppl who r hiding from their sexuality r selfish imo, because they r robbing the other person of true happiness.



there is indeed a difference and for all we know perhaps they do love back. some ppl however are not hiding from their sexuality and unfortunately still go along with the whole thing for whatever reasons. i do not believe ppl that are hiding from their sexuality are selfish as we have no idea what is going on or has gone on in their lives. personally i don't get it but thats just me. also i'm not sure they are robbing the other person of true happiness the other person may however be robbing themselves. relationships and sexuality are not always how they seem to outside parties. but each to their own i suppose.


Well i honestly dont think there r that many ppl who will willingly marry a person that doesnt find them sexually attractive. They maybe can love, in a friends kind of way, but not in a romantic sexual way. This would lead me to assume (however rightly or wrongly) that most gay ppl who r in straight marriages r hiding their sexuality, or bisexual, hence a gay person is not being honest with the other person, and deluding them into thinking they love them romantically, when in fact, their love is prob more of a friendship love, thus robbing them of the chance to meet someone who does love them the way they deserve.




not only are there many ppl that would do it they advertise for it.many women in particular see this as a 'safe' option after all they have been through and in my experience a lot of these marriages are non sexual. weird but true. if they are honest and enter into a straight marriage(which ppl do)then the gay person is not responsible for the robbing. i would say.

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Wed 08/19/09 09:50 AM
Edited by gayfifer on Wed 08/19/09 09:51 AM


love is what u make it


In my opinion, love just is, there is nothing deliberate about it.


what u make of it then.imo it isn't love just is love has to be worked at. if only it were as simple as being just is.

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Wed 08/19/09 09:49 AM





i don't think i could get to the point of being in love with someone and not know their sexual orientation.

surely, there'd have to be at least some reciprocation on their part before the feelings progressed to that level.




This is my opinion also, thanks Lisa! :thumbsup:


unfortunately there are a great deal of gay men and women who do reciprocate and marry/live with members of the opposite sex for whatever their reasons may be. also a great deal of women fall in love with and again marry/live with gay men and again for whatever reasons. so i suppose it's not always as clear cut as we would like to believe (imo)


yeah, maybe years ago, but i don't think there's a stigma attached to being gay any longer and people aren't hiding away behind some door in an attempt to be 'normal'.

besides, if they'd had a sexual relationship with me, doesn't that make them bi as opposed to gay or lesbian?


Yeh, thats wat i was thinkin....a gay man CANT hide it....therefore, if he manages to maintain, he must be bisexual.


on the contrary a gay man CAN hide it.

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Wed 08/19/09 09:48 AM




i don't think i could get to the point of being in love with someone and not know their sexual orientation.

surely, there'd have to be at least some reciprocation on their part before the feelings progressed to that level.




This is my opinion also, thanks Lisa! :thumbsup:


unfortunately there are a great deal of gay men and women who do reciprocate and marry/live with members of the opposite sex for whatever their reasons may be. also a great deal of women fall in love with and again marry/live with gay men and again for whatever reasons. so i suppose it's not always as clear cut as we would like to believe (imo)


yeah, maybe years ago, but i don't think there's a stigma attached to being gay any longer and people aren't hiding away behind some door in an attempt to be 'normal'.

besides, if they'd had a sexual relationship with me, doesn't that make them bi as opposed to gay or lesbian?


there is unfortunately a great deal of stigma still attached to it in some places/countries (otherwise the recent hangings of 11 gay men in iran for example,just for being gay would not happen). I'm not sure the question was about the sexual act however i can assure u it is a lot easier for a man to 'perform' than one may think and this does not necessarily make one bi.

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Wed 08/19/09 09:44 AM




i don't think i could get to the point of being in love with someone and not know their sexual orientation.

surely, there'd have to be at least some reciprocation on their part before the feelings progressed to that level.




This is my opinion also, thanks Lisa! :thumbsup:


unfortunately there are a great deal of gay men and women who do reciprocate and marry/live with members of the opposite sex for whatever their reasons may be. also a great deal of women fall in love with and again marry/live with gay men and again for whatever reasons. so i suppose it's not always as clear cut as we would like to believe (imo)


Theres a diff between reciprocating, and loving someone back. Ppl who r hiding from their sexuality r selfish imo, because they r robbing the other person of true happiness.



there is indeed a difference and for all we know perhaps they do love back. some ppl however are not hiding from their sexuality and unfortunately still go along with the whole thing for whatever reasons. i do not believe ppl that are hiding from their sexuality are selfish as we have no idea what is going on or has gone on in their lives. personally i don't get it but thats just me. also i'm not sure they are robbing the other person of true happiness the other person may however be robbing themselves. relationships and sexuality are not always how they seem to outside parties. but each to their own i suppose.

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Wed 08/19/09 09:34 AM
love is what u make it

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Wed 08/19/09 09:32 AM


i don't think i could get to the point of being in love with someone and not know their sexual orientation.

surely, there'd have to be at least some reciprocation on their part before the feelings progressed to that level.




This is my opinion also, thanks Lisa! :thumbsup:


unfortunately there are a great deal of gay men and women who do reciprocate and marry/live with members of the opposite sex for whatever their reasons may be. also a great deal of women fall in love with and again marry/live with gay men and again for whatever reasons. so i suppose it's not always as clear cut as we would like to believe (imo)

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Wed 08/19/09 09:26 AM

I have my license...and I didn't even have to hit anyone with the vehicle.smokin

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: drinker


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Wed 08/19/09 05:38 AM




blocking off the forth road bridge for a whole afternoon was my best - to date!


Good Lord man! That is amazing...I can only hope to achieve such status at my driving exam.smokin


the down side is the permanent pain meds later in life grumble


Are they good pain meds? I might be up to the challenge if they are...smokin


well sorta like speed really :wink:

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Wed 08/19/09 05:35 AM


blocking off the forth road bridge for a whole afternoon was my best - to date!


Good Lord man! That is amazing...I can only hope to achieve such status at my driving exam.smokin


the down side is the permanent pain meds later in life grumble

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Wed 08/19/09 05:32 AM
blocking off the forth road bridge for a whole afternoon was my best - to date!

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Wed 08/19/09 05:29 AM

I need to go to sleep now. Bye all.


waving waving

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Wed 08/19/09 05:26 AM

Soon to head out...did you know that hitting a pedestrian in Carmageddon is 20 points, two in a row is a 2x multiplier...I bet I can at least get three before they end the exam.smokin


i'm rather good at pile ups myself blushing

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Wed 08/19/09 05:20 AM

<----am obese (in 17 third world countries)

Sorry, I couldn't resist...the bad is leaking out......pitchfork


ahhh normality resumes biggrin

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Wed 08/19/09 05:13 AM



And no, your bum doesn't look big in that.........surprised :laughing:


didn't work, no hits grumble maybe i should turn it around bigsmile


Nah...give the lone ranger one a lap....


we can play cowboys...:laughing:


i want tonto bigsmile

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Wed 08/19/09 05:11 AM

And no, your bum doesn't look big in that.........surprised :laughing:


didn't work, no hits grumble maybe i should turn it around bigsmile

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Wed 08/19/09 05:07 AM


coooooooo eeeeeeeeeee

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