Often I contemplate others' personal expressions considering the concept of a 'God', and how it relates to and affects mankind. Within this I must also consider how well everything fits together with what is known, and moreover what can be concluded as a result of that which is known.

I have found that the very foundation of every belief system inherently necessitates faith. Especially when considering ones in which the core, the foundation upon which all else rests and is built upon, is later confused throughout the belief system. In cases like this, the believer then must choose which of the teachings resonate well within the believer, because the teachings do not logically follow themselves. Or the believer can deny the contradictions throughout the system, which is often done as a result of their own personal need for it all to make sense. This is especially the case when one's entire existance, in thought, is hinged upon their beliefs that something outside of themselves holds them all together, or is their purpose to exist.

Should the premises(foundation) be true, then so shall the conclusions, if based upon what logically follows. Everything in the middle would lead one to the next logical conclusion without contradicting any previous conclusion. For a sound logical conclusion this is a must. If not, no logic can apply anywhere else within the system, and it is based upon purely personal faith which is based upon worldly measure, like it or not... that is the case...

I suppose this would not be an issue if the system also included the belief of an ever-evolving, changing, and separate creator 'God'... or if there is no separate creator 'God'. One which changes according to that which it has experienced and/or observed. In this case though, it would be a futile attempt to make logical sense out of any consideration thereof.

Most systems require the notion of a separate existance between 'God' and it's creation, which is impossible if 'God' always was and was the only existance, or between 'God' and itself... which in and of itself is also impossible... for the same reason.

The beginning of thought when considering 'God' completely depends upon one's own personal perspective. Where must one begin the consideration in logical form?

At the beginning, of course...

Most importantly, the foundation and all that logically follows should fit every actual known situation, for if it does not... it is false.

Anyone else have any thoughts on the subject?

There is a quote, most often attributed to Nietzsche, which I have run across on a number of occasions:

"Faith means not wanting to know what is true."

Works for me.

Yes. Because no one knows. No one knows where it all came from. And no one knows where it all goes. How we came into existence and how (or even if) we cease to exist.

For me, I usually accept that I may never know. I don't know what makes cotton candy taste good either. But I like to let it melt on my tongue.

But I know it can be difficult at times. When bad things happen many would like the comfort of knowing that the bad things happened *for a reason*. Others just need to know everything.

But explaining the inexplicable is not necessary. Breathing is.

Have fun. Live. If thinking about the nature of god and the creation of the universe is fun for you then have at it. I like to think about it sometimes but for now I'm off to worship creation my favorite way...

at the beach.

Peace and joy to all.