Topic: Why Obama Dissed His Grandmother
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Tue 03/25/08 05:00 AM
Posted Mar 22nd 2008 4:47PM by Dinesh D'Souza
Filed under: Barack Obama, Controversy, Race Relations

Ever heard of the Obamorons? These are the morons who will cheer anything that Barack Obama says. Right now the Obamorons are wildly enthusiastic about their man's race speech, and are trying to persuade the rest of us to stop talking about the Reverend Jeremiah Wright and move on to talking about how Obama is the next best thing since Jesus Christ.

Obama does have some very good qualities, but it's clear he also has a dark side that is only now beginning to surface. Consider his bizarre analogies aimed at vindicating the Reverend Wright. Many of us, he argues, "disagree" with things that our pastors and family members have said. True, but how many of us have pastors who say stuff like the Reverend Wright? It's one thing to sit quietly while my pastor says things I don't agree with about evolution or the Rapture, quite another for Obama to sit quietly while his pastor says that America deserved to be attacked on 9/11 and that the U.S. government deliberately injected AIDS into the country. My guess is that even in the black church "God damn America!" is not exactly standard rhetoric. Certainly the Reverend Martin Luther King didn't talk like that.

Especially bizarre was Obama's analogy between the Reverend Wright and his white grandmother. According to Obama, grandma too was given to racial "stereotypes" and at one point confessed to her fear of black men. First of all Obama didn't cite what stereotypes his grandmother held. A stereotype is merely a generalization: it may be true or false, harmful or benign. As the sociological literature on the subject shows, most stereotypes contain at least a grain of truth, because stereotypes develop out of popular experience.

As I document in my book The End of Racism, fears of black men are rationally explained as the consequence of the fact that black men have the highest violent crime conviction rate of any group in our society. One out of four young black men are at any given time in prison, on probation, or on parole. Some years ago Jesse Jackson admitted that if he heard footsteps in the dark and turned back to find out that the person was white, he would feel relieved. The point here is that Obama's grandmother's views, as relayed by Obama, seem rooted in empirical facts and bear no comparison with the Reverend Wright's maniacal ravings.

Besides, she's his grandmother! We choose our pastors and mentors but we don't choose our grandparents. When Obama calls the Reverend Wright "family," this is because he selected him as a friend and teacher. At any point during the past two decades, Obama could have walked away from the pew. Wright is not "family" in the involuntary sense that Grandma is family. In addition, Obama's grandmother made her remarks in private, within the sanctity of the household. The Reverend Wright has been shouting his doctrine from the pulpit for decades. Private prejudice is much less harmful than public hate speech.

Obama is smart enough to know all this. So what is the explanation for the bizarre moral equivalence that he seeks to create between his pastor and his grandmother? It cannot be that she treated him badly, since Obama himself says she loved him more than anything in the world. The only other explanation is that Obama is that Obama is more attached to the radicalism of the Reverend Wright than he is to his kind old grandmother. He is quite willing to protect Wright, and his own presidential prospects, by throwing grandma under the bus. Hell of a guy, right Obamorons?flowerforyou

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Tue 03/25/08 05:36 AM
i have to agree...the sad thing is...that he might just be the next presidnt...im not a racist...but obama is scarry...he as no national security knowledge...HELP AMERICA if he is elected...

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Tue 03/25/08 05:48 AM
Just a question: with how close Obama is with his pastor etc.. who would be really running the country then?

I do know when JFK was elected...many back then thought the pope would have a hand in it (rightfully worried or not)

I question a lot of the actions of Obama

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Thu 03/27/08 02:54 AM
Edited by leahmarie on Thu 03/27/08 03:10 AM
The topic of this thread is "Why Obama Dissed His Grandmother." I will give the answer to that in five words "to save his political ass."

I agree with everything that is being said and I also have to question Obama's actions in aligning himself with Rev. Wright. This man is clearly a racist and anti-American. If you are not black, he will trash you. Yesterday, the news was full of Wright targeting Italians. In the November/December 2007 issue of Trumpet Newsmagazine Wright wrote an eulogy of the late scholar Asa Hilliard wherein he referred to Italians as having "garlic noses." Then Wright continued with his eulogy, or should I say insults against Italians, saying that the Roman government was "Aparthheid and that Jesus' death on a Roman cross was nothing but a public lynching, which was Italian style."

This was supposed to be an eulogy to Asa Hilliard, but Rev. Wright used it to slur Italians and hurl anti-American insults saying "the American government runs everything from the White House to the schoolhouse, from the Capitol to the Klan, and white supremacy is clearly in charge."

Every issue of Trumpet published last year included Wright's column, "The Message," in which he covered a range of subjects, including his views on other African-American churches as expressed in his April 2007 commentary "Facing the Rising Sun." What did he say in that one? He said "blacks live in a world controlled by white supremacy, and America is on its way to hell in a hand basket because of lying politicians. America is a culture that still thinks 'white is right'"

What does Obama think of Rev. Wright? Well according to Obama's federal income tax return for 2006, Obama gave Rev. Wright's Trinity United church $22,500 in contributions.

One of the posters on this thread alluded to the fact that actions speak louder than words. Another statement made by one of the posters is that you don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend. When Obama found himself in this situation, he should have spoken up. If he didn't want to do it explicitly, then he should have done it implicitly by getting up and leaving the pew, the Rev. Wright, the church, and never returning.

As far as Obama's speech last week is concerned, it was eloquent, but it didn't address the central issue. And that is why Obama has Rev. Wright as his spiritual advisor and mentor when the Reverend has such extreme views.

I realize that a lot of people are saying that candidates should not have to answer for the theological views of their pastor, church or denomination. BUT, Rev. Wright's views are not theological views, they are political statements. Therefore, this is a serious issue that Obama needs to address and he did not do so in his speech last week.

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Fri 03/28/08 10:37 AM
How about some imput on this thread?

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Fri 03/28/08 11:52 AM
Obama has said that he carefully picked his friends and associates in college and afterwards to include many from the radical left. If his association and picking the Rev Wright left any doubt in your mind, check it out, it's in his book.

As far as the Rev Wright is concerned one does not have to be white to be a biggot and fan the fires of racism.

Many of you are too young to remember the riots of the 60 Detroit, Watts, and Washington D.C. to list a few. Perhaps you should do some research on them, it was a very ugly time for all of America.

I was stationed at Ft Meyer, VA, that is right next to the Pentagon and Arlington Cemetary, when Dr King was assasinated and I saw first hand the aftermath of the riot in Washington D.C. I saw people looting and burning block after block of our nation's capitol.

Anyone who fans the flames or racial hatred white or black is just wrong. Anyone who chooses a spiritual advisor and friends who constantly fans those flames should not be elected to the highest office in the nation.

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Fri 03/28/08 10:23 PM
I agree with you in that yes, it is okay to have a diversification of friends, but not when they include people who, as you put it, constantly fan the flames of hate toward White America and advocate anti-Americanism.

I was disappointed with Obama's speech. The way he spoke, it was obvious he was claiming the moral high ground. Where does this child of privilege who went to two Ivy League schools, then spent 17 years in a church where racist rants were routine, come off preaching to anyone? What are Barack's moral credentials to instruct white folks on what they must do, when he failed to do what any decent father should have done: Take his wife and daughters out of a church where hate had a home in the pulpit?