hocus pocus abracadabara. I like the prayer.

So you think we should abandon the poor too?

I'm glad I left Christianity when I did.

I wonder who really is responsible for the Lottery? The government takes most of that money. YOUR ELECTED REPUBLICAN government.




Generalizations don't solve problems. I guess we should let the poor get poorer and the rich get richer.




An yet frozen embryos are disposed of without thought, birth control is frowned on by the Catholic Church and women are expected to get married and not refuse to bare children or refuse their husbands whether they want to or not. No thanks.



Sounds like a confession to me, arrest that man!



Well by all means, beat the crap out of them, call them "evil" and lock them in the closet then.



Another confession, call the police...



First they criticize laziness, now they criticize ambition. I wish they would make up their minds.



Well by all means lets form a new army of thought police and sex police who raid people's bedrooms and arrest people for oral and anal sex.



Oh God forbid any of us escape from the dark ages of witch burning and find enlightenment!!


It's not a prayer at all. Not at all. It is propaganda and rhetoric.

Now I have to go puke. I'm feeling a little sick.

Jeannie

Welfare has a known fraud rate in the double digits. I think the reverend was speaking of people who are taking assistance...not working...not trying to work...when they are capable of working. You already knew that, you will stoop to any depths in an attempt to sully Christians.

I agree that welfare has a lot of fraud abuse, and I have seen people who really need it to proud to take it. But it has saved a lot of children that were born because the welfare refused to pay for abortions.

If you want to stop welfare, and abortions, who will pay for and care for all the unwanted babies of the poor???

Jeannie

There is no bottom beneath contempt.

This man is using religion as a means to pressure people who are affiliated with that relation to back his personal political views.

There is nothing lower than that Spider.

You can call this man a “Christian” till the cows come home. I see him as a hypocrite who is using the power of religion for political motives.

To me this isn’t even about religion. It’s about the abuse of religion for the purpose of gaining blind support in the political arena.

Abra, I totally agree. This man is using Christians for his own agenda pretending to be one of them. He is beneath contempt. Anyone who falls for that kind of manipulation should rethink it. That is manipulation and it has nothing to do with logic or reasoning. It also does not solve any problems.

It is political, it is not a prayer to ANY GOD.

He's a Christian.

He was asked to give a prayer.

He prayed about what he was concerned with.

What part don't you get?

What Jeanniebean said is the part I DO get.

And it works! Just look at how all the Christians are ready to back this guy!

It's cut-throat politics at it's ugliest.

All in the name of Jesus?

I thank God I’m not a Christian anymore.

I wouldn’t want to shame Jesus in this way.

It’s beneath contempt.

It was not a prayer. It was a political statement. The last two lines would have been sufficient as a prayer.

If you seriously think that was a prayer, I wish you would really think again. Is your mind that easy to mold? Do you not see? What part of that propaganda spoke for all the people present? He was being a politician and mixing Church and State is always a very bad idea. We are a nation of many faiths. That man was shoving his beliefs down everyone's throats.

What part of that don't you understand?

Jeannie

http://www.dack.com/web/bull****.html


The above website will help anyone who wants to type in a simple phrase and transform it to meaningless jargon or bull****.

Its very funny.

<sarcastic remark here>

I think wouldee uses it a lot.

</sarcastic remark ends>

Jeannie


I noticed my post has a word that has been censored. That is crap. If you want to know what the word is, it starts with an s and means crap.

Hello everyone I posted something earlier yet everyone again just bypassed it like it didn't exist. I find it funny. Perhaps I write too much and should keep it shorter? lol

History shows that religion can abuse power in the government and it also shows that it has done alot of great things to. It is a give and take and a endless debate when it comes to religion of what is good or wrong.

If a atheist or agnostic President one day will do better in the white house is yet to be seen. I find it sad that some religions are so unruly to others who don't accept other belief systems that help them feel good about themselves. Why take away something they feel good about if they don't force it onto others?

Just recently Kucinivich was being bashed in the news press about him believing in aliens. Why is that such a terrible thing I will never know. I think he is a great congressman and had some really valid points in his speeches. I know many will disagree and that is no surprise to me.

We also cannot forget that this country was also grounded by religious people. If we look at the United States of America I see that alot of the famous documents use God in it. Now as a European I am mor familiar with my history, yet as I live in this country presently I learn alot about how this country was grounded and for what purposes. It is fascinating indeed.

Such documents that I have been reading lately that include god in it are:

The pledge of allegiance to the flag.

The Constitution

The Declaration of Independence.

I am sure there are alot more of them here.

If I understand correctly, your forefathers left Europe at the time to leave religious perjury and tried to establish a independent country after being taxed wrong and given little citizenship rights.

Once the 13 colonies were given independence and granted as a Republic the forefathers worked hard to allow citizens to choose their religion or none at all. If this is to be the case then perhaps religion or no religion can work either way in the government as long as the person is allowed to choose it on their own. I mean it is alot different with countries who actually insist on using their religion in their politics like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Qatar, Kuwait, etc.

I personally don't belong in any religious affilate for I don't need to be a member of a group to be accepted in society. For all I care I can be a hermit in the huge array of groups that represent somekind of belief system. lol

Either you like me for who I am or you don't. I think being spiritual and having common sense is a blessing in itself if I may add.

Then again I don't want to know what some people call common sense either for it could be totally against any normal ethics. lol

cheers

I think you are just too reasonable, and polite. Who can argue with your reasoning? Not me.

If you want quick responses, smiles, I would have to suggest that you be more argumentative, like Funches, or opinionated, or stubborn etc. But stay just the way you are. Every forum of crazies needs the voice of reason.

Dear Jeannie,

Perhaps you are right I would make a terrible politician!

I will only address 2 things here because people have the right to opinions

welfare: yes...I have seen people that just want to lay around and collect money or they think the world owes them. on the flip side...I know there are good people out there that need a helping hand until they can get back on their feet

abortion: many use it as a form of birth control or a way out of their own mistake. flip side is...until you have been raped or molested...you can't honestly say what you would do

Jeannie,

I typed in, "where do you get off?"

it gave me...

"whiteboard extensible functionalities"

"deploy distributed convergence"

"engage ubiquitous synergies"

"reintermediate interactive ROI"

"deploy proactive schemas"

"morph magnetic networks"

None of those is suitable for making my point known as well.


So, then I thought to eloquate this, "assumptive jabs miss the mark."

and again it gave me,....

"strategize value-added channels"

"mesh open-source channels"

"monetize user-centric portals"

"syndicate killer experiences"

"matrix global content"

None of that speaks to my point either.


So, I tried this one, "elitists never understand truth"

and Simon says......


"re-invent out-of-the-box convergence"


"whiteboard user-centric initiatives"


"transform front-end infomediaries"


"re-invent holistic infomediaries"


none of that gets it, either.

Exhausted at being eluded of a suitable prose to tickle you, I sought this one, as though it might make sense to you.....

...JESUS LOVES YOU.

and it said,

" enhance sticky interfaces"

"cultivate virtual niches"


"generate end to end models"

"architect sticky models"

"benchmark synergistic initiatives"

"deliver vertical paradigms"

"whiteboard end-to-end infrastructures"

"visualize visionary e-business"

"embrace 24/365 metrics"

"cultivate world class markets"

"mesh visionary infrastructures"

"reintermediate dynamic solutions"


"transition cross-media channels"



"syndicate B2B content"


"transition collaborative channels"


"empower killer action-items"

"harness holistic paradigms"


"implement integrated content"


nope, nada zippo.


SO, I posed this. "Jeannie is bored and needs attention"

and Simon says....

"leverage plug and play markets"

"iterate mission-critical e-markets"

"exploit wireless architecures"

"synergize strategic technologies"

Now that is funny.


So, God Bless you becomes " facilitate user-centric deliverables"

and I'm out becomes "monetize enterprise platforms"


well, goodbye, dear...

or rather....synthesize 24/7 initiatives

ALL Christians??? I do not believe I did any such thing

In fact...I only addressed 2 things and gave both sides

It was only a small percentage of Christians. I don't think Abra meant to imply that all Christians backed him, he just said "Look at all the ones who do.."

I'm sure just as many Christians found his remarks out of line as the ones who backed them.

But to say that prayer bothers people in not the issue here. This was a public and Political platform. That they even asked anyone to pray surprises me. They eliminated public prayer in schools didn't they? They should eliminate it in congress and other political platforms.

The alien gods love for countries and human leaders to proclaim that they are "under God" because they are claiming to be "God."

This means that when these alien beings return to take control of the Planet, they will be the Gods we are "under."


JeannieB

Dear Jeannie,

They won't find me! I will be hiding in a cave! lol