Topic: HELP WITH SOME1 SPECIAL
ecbouton's photo
Fri 03/14/08 02:57 PM
O.k is anyone familiar or has any experience with special ed children - high skool age? if you do, could you please message me. i have a problem and its reaching a point where its dangerous physically.

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Fri 03/14/08 03:04 PM
depends on what you are asking...

i've been around special ed kids quite a bit: my aunt runs a self-contained life-skills learning program for high school kids, and my mother is a board certified behavior analyst that specializes in autistic children.

i also have two special needs kids of my own.

never hurts to ask...can only tell you that we have no clue, lol.

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Fri 03/14/08 03:08 PM
You have mail ecbouton. flowerforyou

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Fri 03/14/08 03:09 PM
can you speak with their parents or caregiver about the issue? It would be shame if something happened that could be prevented and you certainly dont want it to get to the point that the authorities involved if you don't have to.

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Fri 03/14/08 03:20 PM

O.k is anyone familiar or has any experience with special ed children - high skool age? if you do, could you please message me. i have a problem and its reaching a point where its dangerous physically.


special needs????or have i got that wrong, sorry if i have.

ive worked with special needs children, but they were only aged 6

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Fri 03/14/08 06:13 PM
my little brother is in highschool, and hes never been mean towards special ed kids, but this one is becoming violent. its getting to the point that he is actually stalking my brother - he follows my brother from class to class and during school holidays he calls the house and harasses my mother. ( summer spring break ) he even sometimes rides around the block on his bike. this kid has to ride a long way from his house to my moms, hes very determined. every time hes around my brother he feels the need to be in constant physical contact with him. he has to be touching my brother in some way, he grabs and pulls and has to be touching or grabbing him in some way. my brother has tolerated it and tried to be very nice about it, but to no avail, and when he tries to get this boy off him the boy gets violent, and attempts to scratch or hit my brother - and has been successful more than once. well my mother and the skool had a meeting with this boy and his parents, and they are aware of this and have tried everything to get thier son to leave my borther alone, and it does for a week or two, but then it gets bad again. i think this boy uses this diability to his advantage, because when he gets caught by a teacher following my borther from class to class - he knows to lie, which means hes aware that this behavior will get him in trouble. when this boy gets in trouble, he then grabs all the girls that my brother is friends with and hangs out with, he grabs them in a sexual manner - my brother has no patience for this what-so-ever, and im afraid that my brother will hurt this boy.

erin

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Fri 03/14/08 06:15 PM
call the cops touching him is battery.
saying things is assault.

Either way it's something they need to know about.

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Fri 03/14/08 06:18 PM

call the cops touching him is battery.
saying things is assault.

Either way it's something they need to know about.


the skool police know - but when he calls my mom, harrass sounds bad, he doesnt say nething hateful - just that he has to talk to sean ( my brother ), and then she tells him that hes not there and that he wont be back, and he calls over and over almost every two hours.

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Fri 03/14/08 06:20 PM
i really truly feel bad for this kid. his parents say that hes very confused because all the kids he played with when he was younger dont want to be his friends anymore, and hes confused about it. but my brother was never his friend, they didnt even go to the same skools until 7th grade to this year ( junior year ).

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Fri 03/14/08 06:21 PM


call the cops touching him is battery.
saying things is assault.

Either way it's something they need to know about.


the skool police know - but when he calls my mom, harrass sounds bad, he doesnt say nething hateful - just that he has to talk to sean ( my brother ), and then she tells him that hes not there and that he wont be back, and he calls over and over almost every two hours.


are there different schools, for pupils that need more help and support???

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Fri 03/14/08 06:23 PM


call the cops touching him is battery.
saying things is assault.

Either way it's something they need to know about.


the skool police know - but when he calls my mom, harrass sounds bad, he doesnt say nething hateful - just that he has to talk to sean ( my brother ), and then she tells him that hes not there and that he wont be back, and he calls over and over almost every two hours.


That is harassment. A visit from the cops to this kid will do wonders. No one is that tough. If he is then he's going to have some problems with them. Don't call the 911 number. Call the other non-emergency line. Talk to the desk detective.

You are making a reasonable assumption that this is not right. You aren't flipping out. Forget the school police this is now happening off campus. Call and talk to someone.

ecbouton's photo
Fri 03/14/08 06:25 PM
not sure, but the skool district is supposed to be one of the best for these children, so i doubt theyll want to move him. i just want to keep this kid from getting hurt. my brother is running out of patience - quickly.

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Fri 03/14/08 06:27 PM



call the cops touching him is battery.
saying things is assault.

Either way it's something they need to know about.


the skool police know - but when he calls my mom, harrass sounds bad, he doesnt say nething hateful - just that he has to talk to sean ( my brother ), and then she tells him that hes not there and that he wont be back, and he calls over and over almost every two hours.


That is harassment. A visit from the cops to this kid will do wonders. No one is that tough. If he is then he's going to have some problems with them. Don't call the 911 number. Call the other non-emergency line. Talk to the desk detective.

You are making a reasonable assumption that this is not right. You aren't flipping out. Forget the school police this is now happening off campus. Call and talk to someone.





Thanx so much.

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Fri 03/14/08 06:29 PM
Hope you do it. Things can escalate and get so much worse. That tough kid is facing nothing but a talking to right now. Later on he could lose his education, his freedom, his entire life could change. You're doing him and your bro a favor.

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Fri 03/14/08 06:30 PM
i would go and talk with the school again, it sounds to me he needs a lot more help and support than hes getting. i dont think telling the police will be much help, unless hes physically assualted him.

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Fri 03/14/08 06:32 PM

i would go and talk with the school again, it sounds to me he needs a lot more help and support than hes getting. i dont think telling the police will be much help, unless hes physically assualted him.


he has, my brother stays with me every weekend. and he just came home from work and had me clean his arm from two long scratches on his arm.

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Fri 03/14/08 06:34 PM


i would go and talk with the school again, it sounds to me he needs a lot more help and support than hes getting. i dont think telling the police will be much help, unless hes physically assualted him.


he has, my brother stays with me every weekend. and he just came home from work and had me clean his arm from two long scratches on his arm.


well if thats the case you need to go to the police while the evidence is there. he sounds like his illness is way to advanced to be in the school hes in, and he needs to be transfered somewhere else. keep persisting.

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Fri 03/14/08 06:35 PM

i would go and talk with the school again, it sounds to me he needs a lot more help and support than hes getting. i dont think telling the police will be much help, unless hes physically assualted him.


They are trained to diffuse problems before they get out of hand. I've watched Cops before on TV. laugh

The police will help, guaranteed. It will take several hours though because this is not an emergency. Your local taxes are spent on public safety. They'll help.

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Fri 03/14/08 06:37 PM
It sounds like the kids doesn't understand personal boundaries. If he's acting different when other people are around and he lies then he understands what he's doing at least to some extent. Your brother needs to just be honest with him, but he needs to make sure he's not rude.

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Fri 03/14/08 06:50 PM
Please take your brother to the prosecutor and wherever you need too in order to obtain a restraining order. This kid is dangerous. A restraining order won't keep him away but is legal proof of your brothers intentions to not be harrassed. I work with special needs middle schoolers and they can be violent at the drop of a hat. Don't delay in taking action. I don't want to frighten you and certainly would never want to get an innocent child in trouble with the law, but this is not the innocent acts of a child. His lying lets those around know that he is aware that his actions are wrong. Pleae protect your brother and other students by pursuing this, the school will try not to get too involved but you must keep after them and log every encounter and photograph all physical evidence. Do not depend on others wanting to get involved from the school---they are probably afraid of him and his ability to make their life miserable. Make a police report of every incident just for a paper trail. This student is a danger to you and your family. He is deeply disturbed and needs professional help.