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Topic: whos really the bad guy?
ysrider's photo
Thu 12/28/06 06:47 AM
The opinions on this topic run strong and deep. Everyone has their
facts, and they certainly don't all agree. I think the war in Iraq can
be argued much in the same way you could argue religion, with facts and
data to back any arguement. So for now I will say - thank God we are
here in the US, and thank God there are guys who are willing to defend
our rights to have this argument. God bless those whose lives are at
risk, and God save those who put innocent people in harms way for no
good reason.

And regarding the invasion of the US by the Europeans a few centuries
ago, I feel no pride about what we did to the good people of the land
here on this continent. They were people of the earth, and people of
nature, and they loved and cared for the land. In comparison, we have
been a plague on this continents soil. I'm grateful to be where I am
and who I am, but I'm not proud of how some things have been done
historically. I'm thinking the current time will be viewed similarly in
the future. I could be wrong.

Blessed be.

PublicAnimalNo9's photo
Thu 12/28/06 12:33 PM
Whether the "Clintonista regime" provided the intelligence on the WMDs
in Iraq is a moot point anyway. The fact is, and obviously this bears
repeating since some don't seem to quite get it. REAGAN GAVE BIO & CHEM
WEAPONS TO IRAQ. THAT'S RIGHT...A REPUBLICAN!!! Let's face, whether Dem
or Rep, US foreign policy has been its own worst enemy too many times in
recent history. The US fully supported Russia during the war against
Nazism. After that, it was a 50 year cold war in which obscene sums of
money were spent on more efficient nuclear payloads and delivery
systems, and ways to defend against these new develpments.
The US supported Iraq during their war with Iran, supplying weapons (bio
& chems included) and money. In less than 20 years, all of a sudden,
then man that the world's staunchest anti-communist supported, become
enemy #1.

The US supports Bin-laden and the Muja'hadeen(sp)aka: the Taliban,
during the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, providing weapons, money and
support from US intelligence agents. Next thing ya know, the US and its
interests are their #1 targets.

Don't worry about being the world's police force and concentrate on
making your own country a safer, better place to live.
The US truly is a great nation. But greatness just doesn't come from
projected military might,(altho one needs that might to hold on to that
greatness),it also shows in how the gov't looks after its ppl. Just
think about the BILLIONS that have been spent on the war in Iraq that
could have been used to feed and house the less fortunate, instead of it
being spent in a way that causes others in another country to become
"de-housed".
Or spent on R&D for new drugs and cures for diseases. Or to provide
artificial limbs to those that have lost theirs in accidents.
I'm not an anti-war nut or anything. Unfortunately, there are times when
wars must be fought. Iraq just wasn't one of those times.
And while the Clinton admin "provided" the intelligence on Iraqi WMDs,
the problem was how the whole thing went down, which was the fault of no
one but the U.N.
With ALL the warning Saddam had, he could have easily shipped the bulk
of it to Syria or even Iran, knowing that Iran prolly hated the US more
than he did.
This gave Saddam the same advantage as a drug dealer, whom the police
call 2 weeks in advance to say, "Oh btw, just wanted you to know, we're
coming to raid your place a week from next Tuesday".
That tactic isn't going to prove very profitable.

redmange420's photo
Thu 12/28/06 12:49 PM
HANG ALL POLITICIANS AND START A NEW GOVERNMENT!!!!!!

We need American people in the American government, not stuuuuuupid
politicians, dag nabbit!!!

PublicAnimalNo9's photo
Thu 12/28/06 12:51 PM
yeah..isn't part of that US democracy thing sposed to be "....OF the
people"?

redmange420's photo
Thu 12/28/06 12:57 PM
Yup, key words though, "supposed to be" They'd all have heart attacks
if they had to actually do their jobs, and I for one think they all need
to take pay cuts until the lower class is treated the same way as the
upper class.

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