Topic: They lied about wmds
FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 02/17/08 01:41 PM

That he did, but most of the world did in fact think he still had them. Kind of irrelevant now tho, we're there & as we've both said, pulling out right now isn't an option;^]


Indeed.

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Sun 02/17/08 01:41 PM
Most of their talk has been concerning time phase withdrawel complimented with employing UN peace keepers. It's already been covered months ago & is considered well known enough that it isn't disscussed as much anymore;^



do you have a link to that cause I sure never heard about it...I wonder if the UN has...

Turtlepoet78's photo
Sun 02/17/08 01:44 PM

Most of their talk has been concerning time phase withdrawel complimented with employing UN peace keepers. It's already been covered months ago & is considered well known enough that it isn't disscussed as much anymore;^



do you have a link to that cause I sure never heard about it...I wonder if the UN has...


Been living under a rock?;^]

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Sun 02/17/08 04:18 PM
after a massive propoganda campaign the world and most of america believed saddam Had wmds..............turns out it was exactly thata massive propoganda campaign based on out right lies and deceptions, what dribble it is to say well we are there now lets deal with it............isay deal with it by putting Bush and his whole gang on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity and then we may get some respect in the world or get some alies we dont have to buy off.

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Sun 02/17/08 04:27 PM

after a massive propoganda campaign the world and most of america believed saddam Had wmds..............turns out it was exactly thata massive propoganda campaign based on out right lies and deceptions, what dribble it is to say well we are there now lets deal with it............isay deal with it by putting Bush and his whole gang on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity and then we may get some respect in the world or get some alies we dont have to buy off.


lol drink up buddy, but look up the definition of lie before you do.

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Sun 02/17/08 04:42 PM


after a massive propoganda campaign the world and most of america believed saddam Had wmds..............turns out it was exactly thata massive propoganda campaign based on out right lies and deceptions, what dribble it is to say well we are there now lets deal with it............isay deal with it by putting Bush and his whole gang on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity and then we may get some respect in the world or get some alies we dont have to buy off.


lol drink up buddy, but look up the definition of lie before you do.
Text of the Downing Street Memo - a document containing meeting minutes transcribed during the British Prime Minister's meeting on July 23, 2002

The Foreign Secretary said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran. We should work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam to allow back in the UN weapons inspectors. This would also help with the legal justification for the use of force.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/1

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Sun 02/17/08 04:43 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Sun 02/17/08 04:44 PM



after a massive propoganda campaign the world and most of america believed saddam Had wmds..............turns out it was exactly thata massive propoganda campaign based on out right lies and deceptions, what dribble it is to say well we are there now lets deal with it............isay deal with it by putting Bush and his whole gang on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity and then we may get some respect in the world or get some alies we dont have to buy off.


lol drink up buddy, but look up the definition of lie before you do.
Text of the Downing Street Memo - a document containing meeting minutes transcribed during the British Prime Minister's meeting on July 23, 2002

The Foreign Secretary said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran. We should work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam to allow back in the UN weapons inspectors. This would also help with the legal justification for the use of force.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/1


We were there earlier, and like I said before, it doesn't say anything that your warped agenda would hope. Not once does it say they know Saddam has no WMD and are going in anyways.

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Sun 02/17/08 04:51 PM




after a massive propoganda campaign the world and most of america believed saddam Had wmds..............turns out it was exactly thata massive propoganda campaign based on out right lies and deceptions, what dribble it is to say well we are there now lets deal with it............isay deal with it by putting Bush and his whole gang on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity and then we may get some respect in the world or get some alies we dont have to buy off.


lol drink up buddy, but look up the definition of lie before you do.
Text of the Downing Street Memo - a document containing meeting minutes transcribed during the British Prime Minister's meeting on July 23, 2002

The Foreign Secretary said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran. We should work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam to allow back in the UN weapons inspectors. This would also help with the legal justification for the use of force.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/1


We were there earlier, and like I said before, it doesn't say anything that your warped agenda would hope. Not once does it say they know Saddam has no WMD and are going in anyways.
basicly that iswhat it says you can factor that in with all the former CIA folks who had gone public saying the administration didnt wisht to hear anything that implied saddam was not working or didnt have wmds. I can start cuttin gand pasteing them for you if you like. the war is a based on lies and you were fooled to no end and now you live in denial. what a great feat of propoganda this is, stalin or goebells would be jelouse

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Sun 02/17/08 04:54 PM
Our gov't are liars.........shocker

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Sun 02/17/08 04:56 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Sun 02/17/08 04:56 PM





after a massive propoganda campaign the world and most of america believed saddam Had wmds..............turns out it was exactly thata massive propoganda campaign based on out right lies and deceptions, what dribble it is to say well we are there now lets deal with it............isay deal with it by putting Bush and his whole gang on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity and then we may get some respect in the world or get some alies we dont have to buy off.


lol drink up buddy, but look up the definition of lie before you do.
Text of the Downing Street Memo - a document containing meeting minutes transcribed during the British Prime Minister's meeting on July 23, 2002

The Foreign Secretary said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran. We should work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam to allow back in the UN weapons inspectors. This would also help with the legal justification for the use of force.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/1


We were there earlier, and like I said before, it doesn't say anything that your warped agenda would hope. Not once does it say they know Saddam has no WMD and are going in anyways.


basicly that iswhat it says you can factor that in with all the former CIA folks who had gone public saying the administration didnt wisht to hear anything that implied saddam was not working or didnt have wmds. I can start cuttin gand pasteing them for you if you like. the war is a based on lies and you were fooled to no end and now you live in denial. what a great feat of propoganda this is, stalin or goebells would be jelouse


It doesn't say that in the least bit.

Second-longest serving Director of Central Intelligence, brought to the job by Clinton gave a Slam Dunk to the evidence, based off his own evidence gathered by the CIA and the evidence gathered by many foreign intelligence services.

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Sun 02/17/08 04:57 PM
Edited by chuck366 on Sun 02/17/08 04:57 PM
u guys have been going at it for hours, wow

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Sun 02/17/08 04:57 PM

i say deal with it by putting Bush and his whole gang on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity and then we may get some respect in the world or get some alies we dont have to buy off.
I agree, Bush and his team needs to be put on trial...If someone came into the U.S. and did what we did in Irag how would we feel? As far as I know were the only one to ever use a nuclear bomb. So how do we get to choose who can have them and who canthuh huh huh

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Sun 02/17/08 04:59 PM

u guys have been going at it for hours, wow


lol this is a restart from the discussion many hours ago.

All I said was prove he lied, a definition madisonman doesn't seem to comprehend and can't prove.

Dragoness's photo
Sun 02/17/08 05:02 PM
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE WERE LIED TO, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE WERE DUPED, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE PERPETRATOR OF 9/11 IS STILL WALKING FREE!!!!

A war crime was committed that cost us thousands of lives, Iraqis thousands of lives. This is a great crime.

We should be ashamed to even defend the instigator of this war. He is a bane to this country.

What has this war accomplished apart from death and destruction? We got Saddam who DID NOT DO 9/11, no reason to celebrate there. We have managed to single handedly kill more innocents then bin laden did us. We have stuck our foot in a long time standing religious war that has waged there, will not end because of us either until someone concedes and that is not going to happen. We are losing our young people daily and will not get bin laden out of Iraq. WE WILL NOT GET BIN LADEN OUT OF IRAQ!!!!! IF THAT DOESN'T BOTHER YOU, YOU ARE NOT IN YOUR RIGHT MIND!!!!

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Sun 02/17/08 05:03 PM


u guys have been going at it for hours, wow


lol this is a restart from the discussion many hours ago.

All I said was prove he lied, a definition madisonman doesn't seem to comprehend and can't prove.


I was reading earlier. It seems the "whole truth" will never come out, so I consider it a debate

madisonman's photo
Sun 02/17/08 05:06 PM

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE WERE LIED TO, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE WERE DUPED, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE PERPETRATOR OF 9/11 IS STILL WALKING FREE!!!!

A war crime was committed that cost us thousands of lives, Iraqis thousands of lives. This is a great crime.

We should be ashamed to even defend the instigator of this war. He is a bane to this country.

What has this war accomplished apart from death and destruction? We got Saddam who DID NOT DO 9/11, no reason to celebrate there. We have managed to single handedly kill more innocents then bin laden did us. We have stuck our foot in a long time standing religious war that has waged there, will not end because of us either until someone concedes and that is not going to happen. We are losing our young people daily and will not get bin laden out of Iraq. WE WILL NOT GET BIN LADEN OUT OF IRAQ!!!!! IF THAT DOESN'T BOTHER YOU, YOU ARE NOT IN YOUR RIGHT MIND!!!!
drinker love flowerforyou

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Sun 02/17/08 05:08 PM
Edited by yzrabbit1 on Sun 02/17/08 05:12 PM

Who lied? CIA, DIA, FBI, MI6, the French, Germans, the Canadians, other British Intelligence Services, the Spanish, and many more all believed that Iraq had WMD. Even the UN believed that Iraq may have WMD as they believed he was definately hiding something and would never allow full access. Just prior to the invasion the UN Inspectors were finally show missiles that we prohibited that could reach a range further than they had in 1991.

So, I suppose the 'moron' Bush and cronies duped everyone into the lie? lol come on madisonman, think.



It was real easy for me. Before the Iraq war ever started I was 100% sure there was no nuclear threat there. You know what great intelligence I had access too? Ralph Nader. He gave a speech in my state where he simply stated that previously when Saddam had nuclear abilities a little country called Israel sent planes in and destroyed the nuclear threat. Nader assured us in the speech that this little country had a pretty good spy network in the area and somehow he felt that if they did not feel threatened then there was no threat. Simple as that! Ralph Nader with 10 minutes of reasoning was able to out think all of the conservative war mongers itching to go to Iraq and willing to use bad to non existent information to lie us into war.


So you can admit one of 2 things here

Ralph Nader is smarter then the whole Bush Administration

Or The Bushies Lied

madisonman's photo
Sun 02/17/08 05:10 PM


i say deal with it by putting Bush and his whole gang on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity and then we may get some respect in the world or get some alies we dont have to buy off.
I agree, Bush and his team needs to be put on trial...If someone came into the U.S. and did what we did in Irag how would we feel? As far as I know were the only one to ever use a nuclear bomb. So how do we get to choose who can have them and who canthuh huh huh
flowerforyou

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Sun 02/17/08 05:10 PM
If you want to prosecute for war crimes, would you hold Bill Clinton to the same standard. I remember a factory (I think in Sudan) that was blown apart by Tomahawks because Bill Clinton told us it was a factory that produced WMD's, while other claim it made asprin. Also remember at least two strikes against Iraq ordered by Bill Clinton, one was to punish Saddam for kicking out UN Inspectors.

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Sun 02/17/08 05:12 PM


Who lied? CIA, DIA, FBI, MI6, the French, Germans, the Canadians, other British Intelligence Services, the Spanish, and many more all believed that Iraq had WMD. Even the UN believed that Iraq may have WMD as they believed he was definately hiding something and would never allow full access. Just prior to the invasion the UN Inspectors were finally show missiles that we prohibited that could reach a range further than they had in 1991.

So, I suppose the 'moron' Bush and cronies duped everyone into the lie? lol come on madisonman, think.



It was real easy for me. Before the Iraq war ever started I was 100% sure there was no nuclear threat there. You know what great intelligence I had access too? Ralph Nader. He gave a speech in my state where he simply stated that previously when Saddam had nuclear abilities a little country called Israel sent planes in and destroyed the nuclear threat. Nader assured us in the speech that this little country had a pretty good spy network in the area and somehow he felt that if they did not feel threatened then there was no threat. Simple as that! Ralph Nader with 10 minutes of reasoning was able to out think all of the conservative war mongers itching to go to Iraq and willing to use bad to non existent information to lie us into war.


Lie? Do you need a dictionary too? The Intelligence services of the French, DIA, CIA, MI6, Germans, and so on must all be Bush cronies he tricked.

Come on, such ridiculous claims.