wouldn't it be non-sexual? Meaning if there was an all powerful being that encompasses everything would it make sense that it would have no gender to it?

My logic here is that the creatures on this planet for the most part are two gendered. So would it not make sense that an all encompansing god would represent both male and female attributes? So it would then not be able to be one or the other but be non gendered, right?

I think God is basically whatever each invidual person thinks he is..I think it's a He but SEVERAL of my friends think it's a girl and use the word "Goddess" instead of "God"

"He" is just the pronoun that is used. It doesnt actually mean that the so called "God" is male.

If you're gonna think of it that way, and it says in the bible, "Let's make man in our image..." and Adam was made first, with Eve made later to compliment the man... and when reproductive cells get together... they make a female first, and some of them turn into male.... then why wouldn't your God have both?

Disclaimer: I say 'your God' because I'm not sure you're talking about the one I know..

I agree with the ideal that if a person has a preference it should be accepted.

I was just pondering the logic of an omnipotent power of creation. We identify in our logical minds with two sexes so that would be our logical choice but in the bigger picture outside of our personal perspectives, if this allmighty being was out there, it would only create that which it is made of or would have knowledge of, so it would be both or non gendered in order to encompass both genders, right?

The so called "One True God" possesss female attributes Dragoness. Just look closely at the creation myth. "He" and "Him" are just the pronouns that are used.

I don't have a god per se, I am a studier of religions and people. Just pondering a thought here. Stepping outside of the box so to speak.

I would think if god is the start and end of all as proclaimed then he/she/it would encompass all. It makes sense that it cannot "create" that which it does not know or have of itself so then would it be non-gendered or bi-gendered as you have suggested? I know the thought of bi-gendered would not sit well in most peoples comfort zone but just for the point of speculation, it would be one or the other, right?

This is the bottom line. There just doesn't seem to be a non-gendered pronoun other than 'it' and who wants to call god an 'it'?

I've often wondered about this, because only do we not have a non-gender personal pronoun, but neither do we have an all encompassing personal pronoun that refers to a single individual. For example we have "They" and "Them" which is a personal pronoun that refers to groups of mix gender. But we don't have a personal pronoun that is genderless. That is really strange too, especially in this day and age when women sometimes are offended if an author continually refers to the reader as a 'he' or an unnamed professional as a 'he'.

All we can really do is write He/She or S/he, but those slashes get ugly real quick. Also writing out "He or She" gets boring real quick too.

However, in addition the lack of a good genderless personal pronoun, it does say in the Bible that God created man in his image, and then created woman from a rib of man. Many argue that this means that God was male. I don't buy into that whole story to begin with so it's moot to me.

I often refer to the pantheistic view of God as effeminate because in that view God is everything. God is nature. (i.e. Mother Nature, or Mother Earth, etc.) So it seems fitting to think of God in the effeminate in that context. Not to genuinely imply that God is a female gender. God has no gender. God is all that exists, she is all genders.

Another thing too is that if God is the mother of all creation it seems fitting again that we should refer to her in the effeminate. After all, she gave birth to the universe. If God is a guy that would mean that the universe is nothing more that a huge gob of ejaculated material from a big bang.

Abra, dragoness, everyone else...



If 'God' was everything, 'God' ,to me at least, must be much more than one thing...

Perhaps the most correct form of pronoun would be plural then...

Of course I denounce any personification of a 'God' to begin with, so any personal pronoun would not truly apply towards my beliefs...

I usually just say 'God'...unless I am speaking with another using their commonly accepted reference for a conversational ease of purpose...

Why do we need the pronoun? I just say "god" all the time.

We have discussed this gender question before with some interesting perspectives but I think that in a very general sense creative forces (life creators) are normally thought of as female. Protectors and disciplinarians tend to be perceived as male... so maybe it depends on what you are looking for from your god? Isn't the god created to meet man's needs.

But for me, I always thought the idea that god was similar to man in composition was just a convenience, a convention to make man more comfortable with god... to feel closer to god by having some kind of similarity of form.

How could a creature similar to man create a whole world, solar system, etc.? This idea is not believable for me.

I have no idea what the creator of the universe looks like but I doubt it is like anything I have ever seen before so I can't see a gender being important... I don't perceive god as even having may a gender as god may well be a force or energy based.

I don't know for sure as I've never seen god.

Peace and joy to all regardless of the gods you choose or the genders you choose for your god.

According to Scripture, God is "He." Simply. He is always referred to with male pronouns (in the original languages: Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew) and always referred to Himself as "He."


I don't think the "He" is simply a "default" pronoun to describe God. And the fact God *directly* made Adam male--in His image--does have significance and shouldn't be flippantly dismissed.

Yes, language has its limitations, but that doesn't mean we need to resort to mystifying or over-complicating how God describes Himself in Scripture.

If "one" doesn't believe in Scripture, then, of course, "one" can come up with all sorts of descriptions/definitions of god(s) as far as the human imagination can wander...which, so far, has been pretty darn far.

(And frankly, it would annoy me, at least, quite profoundly to ever encounter a magically ambiguous personal pronoun devoid of gender, existing mainly to cater to post-modern society's relativistic whims. But that's just a semi-bitter aside. )

Well personally I'm monotheisticpolydualism.... so I believe in one "god" with many faces.... I guess you could say that my "god" is a hermaphrodite... sorry...that's meant to be humerous.....

In the english language and most others if a noun is non descript it takes the male conjegation... that is why "he" is called "he" in the bible.

Hmmmm. Well, I did a bit of research, and changed my mind a bit.

To sum up this (pretty interesting) article (here: http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2167) on this topic in one, verbose sentence: God is spirit and therefore has no physical gender, but we refer to Him as He because of Scripture, which does INDEED include massive amounts of instances of unequivocally masculine pronouns referring to God and many more masculine descriptions (i.e. "God the father") and names ("...Yahweh, Elohim, Shaddai, Sebbaoth, Adonai, Kurios, and Theos—are all masculine gender").

I love it, abra Not only did you touch on the limitations of our communication tools in this area but you have touched on some of the speculation I have heard from others on "creators" being universally interpreted as female. I am not a male hater, I believe in equality of all humans regardless to any differences they have. This also goes along with god being preceived as white. I have seen some beautiful pics of a black Jesus, that are thought provoking from the normal accepted teaching and pictures. Interesting as always Abra

Understandable creative I was just contemplating the "way it always is" accepted and why. Always love your input

I was stepping out of the box. Not for annoyance just contemplation. No offense intended. I am aware of the scriptures and all it involves. My god would encompass male and female if I had one. I do not. But I was raised on the christian god so I am aware.

Ah, I see. I see. Icy.

I didn't mean to be too "confrontational" either, Dragoness; sorry if I offended, as well. Just expressing a Scriptural perspective on these various out-of-the-box musings of yours.

P.S. Some people muse (loudly) atop boxes; others, inside boxes; while the rest prefer extra-box musings...

Makes sense. Not conventional, necessarily, but understandable on the many faces of god.

I do know that the male conjegation is preferred in "proper" english in alot of cases.

Got cannot be a man or woman, but it would be sad to think that god did not have some of the best parts of the human. So I am going to have to say my God is a woman, warm,welcoming,soft, just the kinda place you want to go when you need comfort. However I know that god is genderless.