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According to the Hebrew lexicon Asah means:of uncertain derivation
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Why couldn't anyone actually answer the only way it was ment.....lol...you people crack me up....you go from one extreme to the next. He did it to try to strive us from him. To make sure he could tell the true believers from the ones who were uncertain. He himself did no such thinkg to confuse us but to make us turn to him.
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Gen 1:1-2 :1 In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth — 2 the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness [is] on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters, YLT Now this is the flow of the Hebrew of Gen 1:1-2 Now on verse 2 the same meaning Jeremiah used and you can speculate yourself to what he is refering to. But the key is the same flow of the Hebrew words translated WITHOUT FORM is in specifically Jer 4:23 Jer 4:23 23 I looked [to] the land, and lo, waste and void, And unto the heavens, and their light is not. YLT This can get really deep but I am going to show you the rest of these verses in Jeremiah and show you the flow of the Hebrew. Phrases. Jer 4:20-28 20 Destruction on destruction is proclaimed, For spoiled hath been all the land, Suddenly spoiled have been my tents, In a moment — my curtains. 21 Till when do I see an ensign? Do I hear the voice of a trumpet? 22 For my people [are] foolish, me they have not known, Foolish sons [are] they, yea, they [are] not intelligent, Wise [are] they to do evil, And to do good they have not known. 23 I looked [to] the land, and lo, waste and void, And unto the heavens, and their light is not. 24 I have looked [to] the mountains, And lo, they are trembling. And all the hills moved themselves lightly. 25 I have looked, and lo, man is not, And all fowls of the heavens have fled. 26 I have looked, and lo, The fruitful place [is] a wilderness, And all its cities have been broken down, Because of YHWH, Because of the fierceness of His anger. 27 For thus said YHWH: All the land is a desolation, but a completion I make not. 28 For this doth the land mourn, And black have been the heavens above, because I have spoken — I have purposed, And I have not repented, Nor do I turn back from it. YLT Now these words are very interesting. As we see what Yahweh said in Isa. Isa 40:21-22 21 Do ye not know — do ye not hear? Hath it not been declared from the first to you? Have ye not understood [From] the foundations of the earth? 22 He who is sitting on the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants [are] as grasshoppers , He who is stretching out as a thin thing the heavens, And spreadeth them as a tent to dwell in. YLT Now here again Yahweh’ is sitting on the circle of the earth. He speaks of tents Jer 4:20 20 Destruction on destruction is proclaimed, For spoiled hath been all the land, Suddenly spoiled have been my tents, In a moment — my curtains. YLT there is no doubt just from the Gen 1:1-2 that the earth existed before our creation.. The rest is something for you to just think about.. Blessings...Miles |
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According to the Hebrew lexicon Asah means:of uncertain derivation http://www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=06213 'asah to do, fashion, accomplish, make (Qal) to do, work, make, produce 1a to do 1a to work 1a to deal (with) 1a to act, act with effect, effect to make 1a to make 1a to produce 1a to prepare 1a to make (an offering) 1a to attend to, put in order 1a to observe, celebrate 1a to acquire (property) 1a to appoint, ordain, institute 1a to bring about 1a to use 1a to spend, pass (Niphal) to be done to be made to be produced to be offered to be observed to be used (Pual) to be made (Piel) to press, squeeze |
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Fossils take millions of years to form, right? Nope. Fossils form extremely quickly, within a matter of days or weeks. Otherwise, you wouldn't have fossilized impressions of soft tissue.
Sorry spider, the reason we have soft tissue examples is not because fossils form in a matter of days or weeks. It is because the preservation of the tissues happened that quickly... Nice try though... |
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Did you know that the scriptures are meant to be sung? You can not take 1 word and say that is what it means here. Use a englishmans concordance sometime and see how one hebrew word is translated through the rest of the scriptures. You will find it will depend on the context. But Youngs Literal Translation. Is Pretty well respected when it comes to the flow of the Hebrew. I realize you will fight to the death to keep tradition. But you will never understand prophesy at all. You can not keep or accept Torah. This is sad when you just read Zech 14 as soon as Yahshua has destroyed his enemies and goes into Jerusalem. The very first thing he does is starts making those who rejected Torah start doing it. oh well...Blessings of Shalom..Miles
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I don't think any one would contest that the heavens and the earth were created by God. That is not an issue. The point is that they were not created "without form and void."
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. There you have a plain statement. If God created the heavens, then there were suns, moons, galaxies, stars and all of that already. But the next verse says something different. Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. The earth was in darkness. No light could strike its surface. King James translators wrote: The earth was without form and void. the words without form and void are tohu and bohu and mean chaos and confusion. God did not create the world in confusion. He is not the author of confusion (ICor 14:33). And,as Isaiah writes: Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in VAIN he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. The word vain here is the same one in Genesis. So God did not create the earth in vain, but Genesis says it was vain. The word "was," is also important here. It could and should be translated "became." Thus God created the heavens and the earth. There was a sun and there was light, but something happened. It was the war in heaven with Satan the devil. This war led to the destruction of the earth, and the world that was with its dinosaurs perished with them having food in their mouth. It just took seconds to wipe out the habitable earth. By this war, the earth "became" chaotic and confused. After the war, God put things back in place, and made the earth inhabitable again. Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Art |
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Fossils take millions of years to form, right? Nope. Fossils form extremely quickly, within a matter of days or weeks. Otherwise, you wouldn't have fossilized impressions of soft tissue.
Sorry spider, the reason we have soft tissue examples is not because fossils form in a matter of days or weeks. It is because the preservation of the tissues happened that quickly... Nice try though... Here is a full page with examples of rapid fossilization. I know you will discount this page without looking at it, but it didn't take much effort to post, so I don't mind. http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/fossils.asp |
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Did God just put all this evidence here to confuse us?
Why would you think that God put evidence here to confuse us? Confuse us with respect to what? Manmade mythology? I think it much more likely that men are confusing mythology with God. |
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Fossils take millions of years to form, right? Nope. Fossils form extremely quickly, within a matter of days or weeks. Otherwise, you wouldn't have fossilized impressions of soft tissue.
Sorry spider, the reason we have soft tissue examples is not because fossils form in a matter of days or weeks. It is because the preservation of the tissues happened that quickly... Nice try though... Here is a full page with examples of rapid fossilization. I know you will discount this page without looking at it, but it didn't take much effort to post, so I don't mind. http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/fossils.asp How do you expect that not to be biased? It's a religion site...lol As far as I know creationist dismiss scientific fact, so why should I believe that THEIR facts are correct and science is wrong? These are the same people that once claimed that earth was the center of the universe. They still claim that there is a bearded guy in the sky watching over us. Sorry but aren't we just a little to old for imaginary friends? |
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