Yes, remember April Glaspie and her amazing stint at Middle East diplomacy?

Saddam-Glaspie meeting

Transcript of Meeting Between Iraqi President, Saddam Hussein and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie. - July 25, 1990 (Eight days before the August 2, 1990 Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait)

July 25, 1990 - Presidential Palace - Baghdad

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie - I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. (pause) As you know, I lived here for years and admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. We know you need funds. We understand that, and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. (pause) We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business, but when this happens in the context of your threat s against Kuwait, then it would be reasonable for us to be concerned. For this reason, I have received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship - not confrontation - regarding your intentions: Why are your troops massed so very close to Kuwait's borders?

Saddam Hussein - As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death.

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie - What solutions would be acceptab le?

Saddam Hussein - If we could keep the whole of the Shatt al Arab - our strategic goal in our war with Iran - we will make concessions (to the Kuwaitis). But, if we are forced to choose between keeping half of the Shatt and the whole of Iraq (i.e., in Saddam s view, including Kuwait ) then we will give up all of the Shatt to defend our claims on Kuwait to keep the whole of Iraq in the shape we wish it to be. (pause) What is the United States' opinion on this?

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie - We have no opinion on your Arab - Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960's, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. (Saddam smiles)

On August 2, 1990, Saddam's massed troops invade and occupy Kuwait. _____

Baghdad, September 2, 1990, U.S. Embassy

One month later, British journalists obtain the the above tape and transcript of the Saddam - Glaspie meeting of July 29, 1990. Astounded, they confront Ms. Glaspie as she leaves the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.

Journalist 1 - Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador?(Ambassador Glaspie does not respond)

Journalist 2 - You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait ) but you didn't warn him not to. You didn't tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait.

Journalist 1 - You encouraged this aggression - his invasi on. What were you thinking?

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie - Obviously, I didn't think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait.


Journalist 1 - You thought he was just going to take some of it? But, how could you? Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed , he would give up his Iran (Shatt al Arab waterway) goal for the Whole of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You know that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as an historic part of their country!
Journalist 1 - American green-lighted the invasion. At a minimum, you admit signaling Saddam that some aggression was okay - that the U.S. would not oppose a grab of the al-Rumeilah oil field, the disputed border strip and the Gulf Islands (including Bubiyan) - the territories claimed by Iraq?

(Ambassador Glaspie says nothing as a limousine door closed behind her and the car drives off.)

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madisonman,

You should really do some
fact checking first.

Check out the Wikipedia article on April Glaspie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Glaspie

In the article it states that 'she had "repeatedly warned Iraqi President Saddam Hussein against using force to settle his dispute with Kuwait."'

Hey havent you learned what a transcript is? I dont care what wykopedia says..if it is a lie you will need more proof than wykapedia.

you can live in denial all you wish whatever floats your boat buddy

Meetings with Saddam Hussein
Glaspie's appointment as U.S. ambassador to Iraq followed a period from 1980 to 1988 during which the United States had given covert support to Iraq during its war with Iran. Although the extent of U.S. assistance to Iraq during the period is disputed, it was purportedly substantial; the Soviet Union and France also supplied aid to Iraq.[1]

It was in this context that Glaspie had her first meeting with Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and his Deputy Prime Minister, Tariq Aziz, on July 25, 1990. At least two transcripts of the meeting have been published. The State Department has not confirmed the accuracy of these transcripts, but Glaspie's cable has been released at the Bush Library and placed online by the Margaret Thatcher Foundation.

One version of the transcript has Glaspie saying:

We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business, but when this happens in the context of your threats against Kuwait, then it would be reasonable for us to be concerned. For this reason, I have received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship — not confrontation — regarding your intentions: Why are your troops massed so very close to Kuwait's borders?

Later the transcript has Glaspie saying: "We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America."

Another version of the transcript (the one published in the New York Times on 23 September 1990) has Glaspie saying:

But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late '60s. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America. James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction. We hope you can solve this problem using any suitable methods via Klibi [Chadli Klibi, Secretary General of the Arab League or via President Mubarak. All that we hope is that these issues are solved quickly.

When these purported transcripts were made public, Glaspie was accused of having given tacit approval for the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, which took place on August 2, 1990. It was argued that Glaspie's statements that "We have no opinion on your Arab — Arab conflicts" and that "the Kuwait issue is not associated with America" were interpreted by Saddam as giving free rein to handle his disputes with Kuwait as he saw fit. It was also argued that Saddam would not have invaded Kuwait had he been given an explicit warning that such an invasion would be met with force by the United States.[2][3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Glaspie

so yea I went to wikopedia and the sugar coated thing you are refering to was her statement to the senate committe, i wonder if she were under oath ? anyhow I will go by the exact transcript and not what april said she said.

you are most welcome to produce the transcript and prove my post wrong, since you cannot you insult.

What was provided is a transcript nothing more either prove its wrong or not, there is no conspiracy.

Yes, a possibly doctored transcript
provided by Saddam Hussein from Iraq.

How credible do you think that
transcript is, coming from Saddam?

go googling then and prove that to be true even your wykopedia site mentions it. and the only proof you have that it is not true is that April Gilepsi said it wasnt. Its funny how all you good people only have opinions I wait your proof that it is doctored my Hussain

Here is a denial by the State Department on the
allegations that April Glaspie indicated to
Saddam Hussein that Iraq could take the
northern part of Kuwait.

http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/1992/921020-248867.htm

There is an excerpt from a book written
by former career diplomat Joseph Wilson
where he indicates April Glaspie was
made a "convenient scapegoat"
(Chapter 4 Coming to Baghdad, page 99).

http://books.google.com/books?id=nS9puh1zDKkC&pg=PA98&dq=april+glaspie+notes&sig=Ly7yTrD3kvJ9cEwlkEQkRksqZQQ#PPA99,M1

If you read what's in the next link, it states
that that transcript is "from a translation of
Iraq's transcript of the meeting".

In fact, that is the ONLY transcript that existed.
She was called on such short notice that there
was no time for our side to take notes.

So I ask again, are you going to TRUST Saddam Hussein's
version of events?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/us_ambassador_to_iraq_april_glaspie.html

Being that saddam was a cia asset for many years I remain skeptical that there is much honesty involved in any of it. http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

Good link.

And I still remain skeptical
that the transcript provided
by the Iraqis wasn't spun
to serve their own propaganda.