Topic: Don't wait till the last second
Dragoness's photo
Thu 01/17/08 07:03 PM

i believe so strongly Abra that if you were so happy and so free ~ and so secure in your existence & your convictions ~ Abra ~ truly ~
it would not even matter to you ~ one smidgeon ~
what any one of us who profess Christianity says or does ~ thinks or doesn't think


Do you think that just because I’m happy I should be content to sit back and watch cancer consume others?

To me, Christianity is cancer of the spirit. It’s seriously harmful and detrimental to humanity in general.

It has a terrible historical record of driving mankind in the wrong directions.

Do you realize that it was Christians who came to America and ran the natives here off their land calling them savages?

Do you realize that it was Christians who went to church to be saved by Jesus whilst their African slaves picked cotton in their field.

Yes, Christianity, the supposedly ‘godly’ religion.

It’s bigotry gone wild, is what it is. Someday humanity will finally be rid of this terrible spiritual disease.



Being spiritual and having light and love in you has nothing to do with Christianity or a man made god for that matter. You are correct at the horrors committed by religions to this day. Any organization that feels justified by a diving power in judging and persecuting others is a danger, there is no way around it.

Differentkindofwench's photo
Fri 01/18/08 01:35 AM
Is a discussion forum not supposed to --- well, discuss, allow participants to state what they think, believe, agree, disagree with? Do different viewpoints not enhance discussion?

I wonder if Isabelle from the childhood poem of Isabelle and the Bear had a religious preference.

Isabelle, Isabelle,
met a bear.
Isabelle, Isabelle,
didn't care.
The bear said,
"Isabelle, glad to meet you,
how do Isabelle, now I'll eat you".
Isabelle, Isabelle
didn't scream or scurry.
Isabelle, Isabelle,
didn't cry and worry.
She washed her hands
and straightened her hair up.
then Isabelle, quietly ate the bear up.

Don't remember who wrote it....Polite lil buggers though weren't they?

no photo
Fri 01/18/08 05:31 AM

"Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen."


Yep, that sounds like a typical Christian alright. laugh

Praise the Lord and eat thy neighbor!



Its a joke.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/joke

Do you always jump at opportunities to add your 2c on Christianity?
It kind of looks like that every time you do it, you're reacting out of some sort of insecurity in your OWN belief/faith since you see these Christians to be so sure of their beliefs.

no photo
Fri 01/18/08 07:26 AM

The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head & spoke:

"Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen."


wow God can even make bears talk but amazingly can't give an amputee their limb back ....a talking bear? ..must have been yogi the bear and booboo

Differentkindofwench's photo
Fri 01/18/08 07:33 AM


"Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen."


Yep, that sounds like a typical Christian alright. laugh

Praise the Lord and eat thy neighbor!



Its a joke.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/joke

Do you always jump at opportunities to add your 2c on Christianity?
It kind of looks like that every time you do it, you're reacting out of some sort of insecurity in your OWN belief/faith since you see these Christians to be so sure of their beliefs.


Holy buckets of bear bait or neighbors to be consumed or whatever, I thought both versions had their amusement value. An enlightened bear named yogi! Never caught that before. How come with those pairs, yogi and booboo; pinky and the brain the supposed dumb one always has better common sense?

no photo
Fri 01/18/08 07:59 AM

Holy buckets of bear bait or neighbors to be consumed or whatever, I thought both versions had their amusement value. An enlightened bear named yogi! Never caught that before. How come with those pairs, yogi and booboo; pinky and the brain the supposed dumb one always has better common sense?


BooBoo and Pinky were simpletons ..and received the benefits from their counterparts for being their minion

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 01/18/08 08:09 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 01/18/08 08:43 AM


"Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen."


Yep, that sounds like a typical Christian alright. laugh

Praise the Lord and eat thy neighbor!



Its a joke.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/joke

Do you always jump at opportunities to add your 2c on Christianity?
It kind of looks like that every time you do it, you're reacting out of some sort of insecurity in your OWN belief/faith since you see these Christians to be so sure of their beliefs.




very excellent observation untamed drinker
thank you very much flowerforyou
that is what i have been saying all along..smokin

if people are so sure of themselves and what they believe in,

why don't they just go their merry way & live their livesdrinker

why is it that they insist on criticizing Christianity ? huh


because there is an inherent ~ deep-seated need
for all of us to be reconnected with our Creator
since birth and we are all just trying to find
our way back to the garden ~ flowerforyou


if we would only get over ourselves
for long enough to realize it flowerforyou



jonlaw's photo
Fri 01/18/08 08:21 AM

"
i believe so strongly Abra that if you were so happy and so free ~ and so secure in your existence & your convictions ~ Abra ~ truly ~
it would not even matter to you ~ one smidgeon ~
what any one of us who profess Christianity says or does ~ thinks or doesn't think


Do you think that just because I’m happy I should be content to sit back and watch cancer consume others?

To me, Christianity is cancer of the spirit. It’s seriously harmful and detrimental to humanity in general.

It has a terrible historical record of driving mankind in the wrong directions.

Do you realize that it was Christians who came to America and ran the natives here off their land calling them savages?

Do you realize that it was Christians who went to church to be saved by Jesus whilst their African slaves picked cotton in their field.

Yes, Christianity, the supposedly ‘godly’ religion.

It’s bigotry gone wild, is what it is. Someday humanity will finally be rid of this terrible spiritual disease.






until the Lord returns,

there will always be people who misuse the name of Christ

that does not mean that He is any less important or magnificent


{{{ you are so hung up on what people have done
by misappropriating the Name & Power of Jesus
that you fail to see Jesus for who He really is }}}


and no matter what anyone says....drinker
&
no matter how you hate to hear it :smile:



The Birth ~ Life ~ Death and Resurrection of Jesus the Christ

has had the most monumental significance in all of history flowerforyou
"


Does not the bible read " many will come in my name saying I am He" (saying yes Jesus is Lord) and will decieve many"

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 01/18/08 08:21 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 01/18/08 08:55 AM


i believe so strongly Abra that if you were so happy and so free ~ and so secure in your existence & your convictions ~ Abra ~ truly ~
it would not even matter to you ~ one smidgeon ~
what any one of us who profess Christianity says or does ~ thinks or doesn't think


Do you think that just because I’m happy I should be content to sit back and watch cancer consume others?

To me, Christianity is cancer of the spirit. It’s seriously harmful and detrimental to humanity in general.

It has a terrible historical record of driving mankind in the wrong directions.

Do you realize that it was Christians who came to America and ran the natives here off their land calling them savages?

Do you realize that it was Christians who went to church to be saved by Jesus whilst their African slaves picked cotton in their field.

Yes, Christianity, the supposedly ‘godly’ religion.

It’s bigotry gone wild, is what it is. Someday humanity will finally be rid of this terrible spiritual disease.



Being spiritual and having light and love in you has nothing to do with Christianity or a man made god for that matter. You are correct at the horrors committed by religions to this day. Any organization that feels justified by a diving power in judging and persecuting others is a danger, there is no way around it.


first of all ...the joke about the bear
was sent to me thru an email ...
i didn't make it up and it was funny, yet tragic too


if you keep looking at all the incorrect things
that people do ~ you will miss the importance here

that is why it is so imperative to look to God
and not to man


Man will always fail but God is the Creator
of the entire universe ...

who are we "His creation "

to question his Great & Master plan flowerforyou


we can only see a tiny portion of the Great Master's Plan..flowerforyou

how can anyone think that we can look at some miniscule ~
microscopic portion of the design
& plan of the entire Universe ~
and even begin to make a judgement or opinion ~
knowing only a tiny fragment of the Great Master's plan drinker
and thinking that we are in any position or place
to even begin to question His omnipotent authority ??? noway

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 01/18/08 08:32 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 01/18/08 08:34 AM

I thought the story was sort of funny...

I'm a bit surprised that the Christians like it though- it's actually quite critical of christians IMO. Christians have literally killed and metaphorically "eaten" cultures whose individuals didn't agree with or convert to their beliefs.

ACtually, if I think about it too much I don't like the story because I really dislike when one religion is so intolerent of others beliefs.

Then again maybe I should just lighten up and laugh at the praying bear?






it's a joke with a message ~ dear ...drinker

wasn't meant to offend you or anyone flowerforyou

I am not intolerant of other people's beliefs...flowerforyou
as long as they are not evil &
as long as they do not hurt others flowerforyou

You have no idea the lifestyles i am exposed
to ~ living in California and by the Bay Area

although different lifestyles are everywhere ...drinker

there are people af all different beliefs drinker

who love me cause they see Jesus in me flowerforyou

and they know i genuinely love them :heart:

and i don't judge them ~ God is the Judge flowerforyou


and I pray for their eternal salvation :heart:

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 01/18/08 08:33 AM


"
i believe so strongly Abra that if you were so happy and so free ~ and so secure in your existence & your convictions ~ Abra ~ truly ~
it would not even matter to you ~ one smidgeon ~
what any one of us who profess Christianity says or does ~ thinks or doesn't think


Do you think that just because I’m happy I should be content to sit back and watch cancer consume others?

To me, Christianity is cancer of the spirit. It’s seriously harmful and detrimental to humanity in general.

It has a terrible historical record of driving mankind in the wrong directions.

Do you realize that it was Christians who came to America and ran the natives here off their land calling them savages?

Do you realize that it was Christians who went to church to be saved by Jesus whilst their African slaves picked cotton in their field.

Yes, Christianity, the supposedly ‘godly’ religion.

It’s bigotry gone wild, is what it is. Someday humanity will finally be rid of this terrible spiritual disease.






until the Lord returns,

there will always be people who misuse the name of Christ

that does not mean that He is any less important or magnificent


{{{ you are so hung up on what people have done
by misappropriating the Name & Power of Jesus
that you fail to see Jesus for who He really is }}}


and no matter what anyone says....drinker
&
no matter how you hate to hear it :smile:



The Birth ~ Life ~ Death and Resurrection of Jesus the Christ

has had the most monumental significance in all of history flowerforyou
"


Does not the bible read " many will come in my name saying I am He" (saying yes Jesus is Lord) and will decieve many"




yes, it is true ...there will be many imposters

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 01/18/08 08:42 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 01/18/08 09:28 AM


The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head & spoke:

"Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen."


wow God can even make bears talk but amazingly can't give an amputee their limb back ....a talking bear? ..must have been yogi the bear and booboo





yes..it was yogi and boo boo...laugh drinker laugh


and btw.....

speaking of miracles....drinker


the doctors were gonna take half of my mother's stomach


due to cancer ...:cry:

and on the sixth day of looking at this
growth in her stomach ,
her doctor emerged from his lab
and told her that there was no sign of cancer
and that he could not understand it~noway

there was "nothing " medically
to substantiate the missing cancerous growth


Praise the Lord ~ flowerforyou

jonlaw's photo
Fri 01/18/08 09:04 AM


"
The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head & spoke:

"Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen."


wow God can even make bears talk but amazingly can't give an amputee their limb back ....a talking bear? ..must have been yogi the bear and booboo





yes..it was yogi and boo boo...speaking of miracles....


the doctors were gonna take half of my mother's stomach


due to cancer ...

and on the sixth day of looking at this
growth in her stomach ,
her doctor emerged from his lab
and told her that there was no sign of cancer
and that he could not understand it~noway

there was "nothing " medically
to substantiate the missing cancerous growth


Praise the Lord ~ flowerforyou
"



Thanks for your unmoveable faith Rapunzel you have been an inspiration to me the way you handle adversity. With people like you the world is just that much better off for it.:flowerforyou

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 01/18/08 09:14 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 01/18/08 09:27 AM
Thank you Jon...:heart: flowerforyou :heart:

i have avoided putting myself in the line of fire
but i could not avoid this or tarry any longer

these souls are too precious
for me to leave the planting field now


The Lord is soo good

I have asked Him
to annoint my tongue~
i have come a long way with diplomacy

God loves Whom He chastens
and i have been fortunate enough
to be put in the fire of adversity
to be cleansed & purified
in His Holy Fire
for all the dross
to be skimmed off the top
that i may emerge
as the finest and purest
of spiritual molten gold


a spiritual metamorphosis flowerforyou

Phoenix rising from the ashes
of darkness and despair drinker

and my name?


Vanessa ~ meaning Butterfly in Greek
and ~ Star in Hebrew

and where do stars shine their very brightest ???

in the very darkest of night ~ Hallelujah flowerforyou


Praise the Lord Jesus The Christ flowerforyou

The Magnificent King of Kings smokin

and

the Absolute Lord of Lords drinker



no photo
Fri 01/18/08 10:08 AM



The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head & spoke:

"Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen."


wow God can even make bears talk but amazingly can't give an amputee their limb back ....a talking bear? ..must have been yogi the bear and booboo





yes..it was yogi and boo boo...laugh drinker laugh


and btw.....

speaking of miracles....drinker


the doctors were gonna take half of my mother's stomach


due to cancer ...:cry:

and on the sixth day of looking at this
growth in her stomach ,
her doctor emerged from his lab
and told her that there was no sign of cancer
and that he could not understand it~noway

there was "nothing " medically
to substantiate the missing cancerous growth


Praise the Lord ~ flowerforyou


I glad to hear the good news about your Mother and that she is ok ....but more obvious proof that God has something to do with healing people would be to grow back the limbs of the amputee ...your Mother may unknowningly possess the power to healed herself at an excelerated rate or to lessen the chance of argument believed that she has been healed by God ..but the undisputed fact still remains that God or Jesus never grows limbs back

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 01/18/08 10:10 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 01/18/08 10:33 AM
just because you and i
have not heard of limbs growing back

does not negate the possibility
that it has happened somewhere
we are not aware of drinker

or that it will happen in the future flowerforyou




and really: her healing had nothing to do
with her own ability to heal herself

and it had everything to do with faith ...
she had ulcers for over 40 years...

again...
we don't know why God chooses to heal some and not others
and what His perfect timing is ~ may not be ours flowerforyou

we are the Creation and not the Master Creator drinker

it is only by the grace of God that my Mom lives today flowerforyou

and she is a pillar of strength
and faith in her Lord & Savior ...

and she has no doubt where she is going
when she passes from this Earth ...
so, don't focus on what you think the Lord has not done...

focus on the amazing Miracles He has done...
do a google search of amazing modren day miracles...

search out how many powerful people
who denounced Christ all of their lives~
have fiannly found themselves at the foot
of the old rugged cross and they have
finally finally found their Lord

listen to the video of Evel Knieval please

it is so touching and beautiful...

i challenge all of you
who do not acknowledge Christ as Lord

to listen to Evel Knieval's amazing testimony

before He went Home to be with God

at Paster Schuller's Crystal Cathedral

no photo
Fri 01/18/08 10:17 AM

just because you and i
have not heard of limbs growing back

does not negate the possibility
that it has happened somewhere
we are not aware of drinker

or that it will happen in the future flowerforyou


but the fact remains you can aways hear a story of God healing everything but the obvious woes of the amputee

hey I even checked on youtube and behold no videos of limbs growing back...I guess it's up to man to get the job done

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 01/18/08 10:31 AM
you are missing the bigger picture here ...


the bible talks about straining a gnat and swallowing a camel

remove the boulder from your own eye,
before you try to take the speck of dirt from someone else's


and just because you have not heard
of that kind of healing ,
doesn't mean it hasn't happened ~ flowerforyou


please get the pizza off your record...ohwell
your album keeps skipping dear ...huh


time to move on drinker


i'm not going to let you or anyone else

sidetrack me

and i refuse to lose sight of the bigger picture :heart:


i have said what i was supposed to say ...drinker

i have planted seeds everywhere i could here flowerforyou

now,

i will leave the rest up to God ...:heart:


we all have to give an account
flowerforyou
of our lives one day to our Creator ~drinker

whether we acknowledge Him or not :wink:






no photo
Fri 01/18/08 10:56 AM

you are missing the bigger picture here ...


and you are missing the point ..that God and Jesus doesn't answer the prays of the amputee ..instead of denying this fact you should instead should ask yourself why ....oh I forgot..faith requires you not to ask why

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 01/18/08 11:07 AM
oh please dear ...

you are not getting it....

well, i see that you have no faith ...

and you only believe what you see

and refuse to admit that all kinds of things

<miracles included> happen all the time

that you are unaware of


and by the way ...



just where did men get the brains to do the prosthesis ?

oh, i know....you have all the answers...

from some freak explosion in the universe laugh

or maybe he got his brains
from crawling out of the slime with the salamanders laugh