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Topic: NEVER FORGET !
Guitarjizzard Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 165	Mon 01/14/08 08:01 AM
Please keep this going so everyone can see what we are made of in this country! No thanks. Everyone already knows we are made of the best war machines on Earth.

zman000081 Joined Thu 11/29/07 Posts: 4859	Mon 01/14/08 08:02 AM
There is a huge difference in murdering and self defence.

rocksterrebel Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 45	Mon 01/14/08 08:04 AM
so your saying....to serve the people that died in the twin towers.......we are developing stuff to kill more people............one of our guys was killed by a car sucider.... the other 10 marines in the group with anger went in and shot an entire family that were civilians....one of them was a disabled 60 something year old in a wheelchair........America has killed more innnocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan that would make the deaths in the twin towers pale in comparison.........its not more death machines.........its communication and peace we need................i dont want to ofend anyone but like it or not thats the truth........murder causes hatred and more murder......so i dont agree to keep it going soz Boo **ing who. Our efforts over there are based around avoiding civilian casualties. However, the people we're fighting don't have that problem. I guarantee they've killed more civilians than we have, by a lot. That whole area of the world is a mess, and it needs cleaning up. Most of those people are so backward and ignorant that it's a god damn shame. We have to start cleaning it up sometime, now is as good as ever. its up to the people of their country to change their country.........no one else. so boo **ing who yourself

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Mon 01/14/08 08:05 AM
i am just voicing my opinion............thats all............its communication we need...... remember......one country's terrorist is another country's freedom fighter!!!! This is true. It still comes down to the leader of the country initiating the war that is at fault. I just didn't want the confusion that seems to cloud people's understanding. Our young men and women are in harms way because of our leaders here. 9/11 was a most devastating event to our country and this administration has made it worse instead of better. The fact they are recycling is good. I did not know they were recycling.

lonelyshorty Joined Mon 10/15/07 Posts: 4737	Mon 01/14/08 08:07 AM
Boo fricken hoo, you know what go cry a me a frickin river. THOSE PEOPLE OVER THERE ARE GIVING THEIR LIVES SO PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAN BI*** ABOUT THEM BEING OVER THERE. I have a friend that just rejoined the army. He is going to be in harms way when he leaves. I totally support what hes doing.

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Mon 01/14/08 08:07 AM
USS New York It was built with 24 tons of scrap steel from the World Trade Center . It is the fifth in a new class of warship - designed for missions that include special operations against terrorists. It will carry a crew of 360 sailors and 700 combat-ready Marines to be delivered ashore by helicopters and assault craft Steel from the World Trade Center was melted down in a foundry in Amite, LA to cast the ship's bow section. When it was poured into the molds on Sept 9, 2003 , "Those big rough steelworkers treated it with total reverence," recalled Navy Capt. Kevin Wensing, who was there. "It was a spiritual moment for everybody there." Junior Chavers, foundry operations manager, said that when the trade center steel first arrived, he touched it with his hand and the "hair on my neck stood up." "It had a big meaning to it for all of us," he said. "They knocked us down. They can't keep us down. We're going to be back." The ship's motto? "Never Forget" Please keep this going so everyone can see what we are made of in this country! so your saying....to serve the people that died in the twin towers.......we are developing stuff to kill more people............one of our guys was killed by a car sucider.... the other 10 marines in the group with anger went in and shot an entire family that were civilians....one of them was a disabled 60 something year old in a wheelchair........America has killed more innnocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan that would make the deaths in the twin towers pale in comparison.........its not more death machines.........its communication and peace we need................i dont want to ofend anyone but like it or not thats the truth........murder causes hatred and more murder......so i dont agree to keep it going soz Like everything in life, rocksterrebel, we all our own opinions, I am respecting yours at this moment. The USS New York, is a symbol used for YES THOSE WHO DIED, those who live and those who fight for this great country of ours. I post this as a thank you to all who have given their time, their lives and I will continue to support our TROOPS!!! I urge those who support our TROOPS (notice did not mention war/killing/etc). I AM SUPPORTING OUR YOUTH, CAREER SOLDIERS WHO STAND AND FIGHT WHILE WE CONTINUE ON AS NORMAL. NOT SUPPORTING NOR EXPRESSING MY OPINION ON THE WAR... FORWARD AND LET STAND AND SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. FRANCES no......i will not support any person who will murder another..............no way!!! rockerrebel - then please tell me - If you dont support our troops - what do you stand for?

zman000081 Joined Thu 11/29/07 Posts: 4859	Mon 01/14/08 08:10 AM
Thanks to all that supports the Soldiers.

Guitarjizzard Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 165	Mon 01/14/08 08:15 AM
its likely too much to ask to not use the "supporting troops" red herring to further this thread along huh?

rocksterrebel Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 45	Mon 01/14/08 08:17 AM
USS New York It was built with 24 tons of scrap steel from the World Trade Center . It is the fifth in a new class of warship - designed for missions that include special operations against terrorists. It will carry a crew of 360 sailors and 700 combat-ready Marines to be delivered ashore by helicopters and assault craft Steel from the World Trade Center was melted down in a foundry in Amite, LA to cast the ship's bow section. When it was poured into the molds on Sept 9, 2003 , "Those big rough steelworkers treated it with total reverence," recalled Navy Capt. Kevin Wensing, who was there. "It was a spiritual moment for everybody there." Junior Chavers, foundry operations manager, said that when the trade center steel first arrived, he touched it with his hand and the "hair on my neck stood up." "It had a big meaning to it for all of us," he said. "They knocked us down. They can't keep us down. We're going to be back." The ship's motto? "Never Forget" Please keep this going so everyone can see what we are made of in this country! so your saying....to serve the people that died in the twin towers.......we are developing stuff to kill more people............one of our guys was killed by a car sucider.... the other 10 marines in the group with anger went in and shot an entire family that were civilians....one of them was a disabled 60 something year old in a wheelchair........America has killed more innnocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan that would make the deaths in the twin towers pale in comparison.........its not more death machines.........its communication and peace we need................i dont want to ofend anyone but like it or not thats the truth........murder causes hatred and more murder......so i dont agree to keep it going soz Supporting the troops has nothing to do with the war machine here. Our illustrious leaders that we vote into office are the reason for the wars and killing, not the troops. The men and women who serve our country do it for our country and they are doing what they are told. One can still support the troops and not be pro-war. Those men and women are honorable and deserve our respect. I do not believe in the policies of this administration either but I will never say anything against those young men and women who are putting their lives on the line daily for our country. Put the blame where it belongs on the people who keep voting in these incompetents. unless you want to kill you will sign up to an army.............maybe if noone joins armies......there will be no munitions and no dictatorial use of to enforce power..

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Mon 01/14/08 08:19 AM
its likely too much to ask to not use the "supporting troops" red herring to further this thread along huh? Sorry, guitarjizzard, the reason I posted this thread was to inform - if you or anyone else is truly not interested or offended I apologize. But my point in this thread was to inform and yes to support my troops, while I have one biological daughter, I have over 20 - 30 kids overseas, serving in various capacities and yes, I support each and every one of them. So, hate to decline your request, but No, I will not cease asking others to SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.

lonelyshorty Joined Mon 10/15/07 Posts: 4737	Mon 01/14/08 08:24 AM
USS New York It was built with 24 tons of scrap steel from the World Trade Center . It is the fifth in a new class of warship - designed for missions that include special operations against terrorists. It will carry a crew of 360 sailors and 700 combat-ready Marines to be delivered ashore by helicopters and assault craft Steel from the World Trade Center was melted down in a foundry in Amite, LA to cast the ship's bow section. When it was poured into the molds on Sept 9, 2003 , "Those big rough steelworkers treated it with total reverence," recalled Navy Capt. Kevin Wensing, who was there. "It was a spiritual moment for everybody there." Junior Chavers, foundry operations manager, said that when the trade center steel first arrived, he touched it with his hand and the "hair on my neck stood up." "It had a big meaning to it for all of us," he said. "They knocked us down. They can't keep us down. We're going to be back." The ship's motto? "Never Forget" Please keep this going so everyone can see what we are made of in this country! so your saying....to serve the people that died in the twin towers.......we are developing stuff to kill more people............one of our guys was killed by a car sucider.... the other 10 marines in the group with anger went in and shot an entire family that were civilians....one of them was a disabled 60 something year old in a wheelchair........America has killed more innnocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan that would make the deaths in the twin towers pale in comparison.........its not more death machines.........its communication and peace we need................i dont want to ofend anyone but like it or not thats the truth........murder causes hatred and more murder......so i dont agree to keep it going soz Supporting the troops has nothing to do with the war machine here. Our illustrious leaders that we vote into office are the reason for the wars and killing, not the troops. The men and women who serve our country do it for our country and they are doing what they are told. One can still support the troops and not be pro-war. Those men and women are honorable and deserve our respect. I do not believe in the policies of this administration either but I will never say anything against those young men and women who are putting their lives on the line daily for our country. Put the blame where it belongs on the people who keep voting in these incompetents. unless you want to kill you will sign up to an army.............maybe if noone joins armies......there will be no munitions and no dictatorial use of to enforce power.. but if theres no miltary whos going to defend our country? In WWII, if we didnt join the war Hitler would have taken over and we would be German. the same for when the Japanese attacked. In the Revolution, if those men didnt fight we would be British. Men and women have died for you and me through out the years. If we took away the military whos going to defend us and make the world safer? What would happen if we did? hmmmm lets see.....maybe another country will bomb us and kill more people...then people like you would say oh but we took away the military whos going to stop the bad guys now? What if another dictator like Hitler rose to power? hmmmm whos gonna stop him? We cannot take away the military. Use your logic duh!!!!!!!!

rocksterrebel Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 45	Mon 01/14/08 08:24 AM
i am just voicing my opinion............thats all............its communication we need...... remember......one country's terrorist is another country's freedom fighter!!!! This is true. It still comes down to the leader of the country initiating the war that is at fault. I just didn't want the confusion that seems to cloud people's understanding. Our young men and women are in harms way because of our leaders here. 9/11 was a most devastating event to our country and this administration has made it worse instead of better. The fact they are recycling is good. I did not know they were recycling. war is a business.. same as mcdonalds is a fast food joint. the only reason bush invaded iraq was because of the mess his daddy made of it.that and that alone is a significant reason the twin towers toppled and lets not forget there are people who believe and always will that america was involved in the collapse of the towers, to cook up war fever thus to create more business

rocksterrebel Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 45	Mon 01/14/08 08:26 AM
There is a huge difference in murdering and self defence. in certain circumstances yes........i agree with yu

lonelyshorty Joined Mon 10/15/07 Posts: 4737	Mon 01/14/08 08:28 AM
another thing to think about....if you did take away the military think about all the people you would be putting out of a job. there are thousands of people who are in the different branches of the military. Our ecomony is strained enough and there are lots of people with out jobs, but if you put thousands of men and woman without jobs that is going to create more of a scarcity of jobs.

rocksterrebel Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 45	Mon 01/14/08 08:32 AM
Boo fricken hoo, you know what go cry a me a frickin river. THOSE PEOPLE OVER THERE ARE GIVING THEIR LIVES SO PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAN BI*** ABOUT THEM BEING OVER THERE. I have a friend that just rejoined the army. He is going to be in harms way when he leaves. I totally support what hes doing. no,what you should of done was support your good friend and tell him to stay here at home so he can rear a family and enjoy his life wth his friends and loved ones............and no, if people go over to a war and risk their their lives and dies..........that is their problem.......i did not ask anyone to go to war

rocksterrebel Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 45	Mon 01/14/08 08:34 AM
USS New York It was built with 24 tons of scrap steel from the World Trade Center . It is the fifth in a new class of warship - designed for missions that include special operations against terrorists. It will carry a crew of 360 sailors and 700 combat-ready Marines to be delivered ashore by helicopters and assault craft Steel from the World Trade Center was melted down in a foundry in Amite, LA to cast the ship's bow section. When it was poured into the molds on Sept 9, 2003 , "Those big rough steelworkers treated it with total reverence," recalled Navy Capt. Kevin Wensing, who was there. "It was a spiritual moment for everybody there." Junior Chavers, foundry operations manager, said that when the trade center steel first arrived, he touched it with his hand and the "hair on my neck stood up." "It had a big meaning to it for all of us," he said. "They knocked us down. They can't keep us down. We're going to be back." The ship's motto? "Never Forget" Please keep this going so everyone can see what we are made of in this country! so your saying....to serve the people that died in the twin towers.......we are developing stuff to kill more people............one of our guys was killed by a car sucider.... the other 10 marines in the group with anger went in and shot an entire family that were civilians....one of them was a disabled 60 something year old in a wheelchair........America has killed more innnocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan that would make the deaths in the twin towers pale in comparison.........its not more death machines.........its communication and peace we need................i dont want to ofend anyone but like it or not thats the truth........murder causes hatred and more murder......so i dont agree to keep it going soz Like everything in life, rocksterrebel, we all our own opinions, I am respecting yours at this moment. The USS New York, is a symbol used for YES THOSE WHO DIED, those who live and those who fight for this great country of ours. I post this as a thank you to all who have given their time, their lives and I will continue to support our TROOPS!!! I urge those who support our TROOPS (notice did not mention war/killing/etc). I AM SUPPORTING OUR YOUTH, CAREER SOLDIERS WHO STAND AND FIGHT WHILE WE CONTINUE ON AS NORMAL. NOT SUPPORTING NOR EXPRESSING MY OPINION ON THE WAR... FORWARD AND LET STAND AND SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. FRANCES no......i will not support any person who will murder another..............no way!!! rockerrebel - then please tell me - If you dont support our troops - what do you stand for? Love

zman000081 Joined Thu 11/29/07 Posts: 4859	Mon 01/14/08 08:35 AM
Rockster so what if was your family friends and loved one in one of the planes that got killed.

rocksterrebel Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 45	Mon 01/14/08 08:36 AM
Thanks to all that supports the Soldiers. i said earlier, i will not support murder!!!

lonelyshorty Joined Mon 10/15/07 Posts: 4737	Mon 01/14/08 08:37 AM
Boo fricken hoo, you know what go cry a me a frickin river. THOSE PEOPLE OVER THERE ARE GIVING THEIR LIVES SO PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAN BI*** ABOUT THEM BEING OVER THERE. I have a friend that just rejoined the army. He is going to be in harms way when he leaves. I totally support what hes doing. no,what you should of done was support your good friend and tell him to stay here at home so he can rear a family and enjoy his life wth his friends and loved ones............and no, if people go over to a war and risk their their lives and dies..........that is their problem.......i did not ask anyone to go to war He wants to go. He actually retired from the army for awhile. He wants to go back. Even if I tried to convince him to stay home, he wouldnt. He told me it kills him that hes not over there. He is willing to go and I'm behind him 100%.

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Mon 01/14/08 08:37 AM
Thanks to all that supports the Soldiers. i said earlier, i will not support murder!!! THEN WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO VISIT/WRITE IN THIS THREAD... IF YA DONT LIKE WHAT IS BEING SAID/IF YOU DONT AGREE, OK... THE SAME AS IT'S OK FOR THOSE OF US THAT WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR TROOPS PROUDLY.