I mean.. I was ordered to pay other dues that she doesn't deserve during my divorce. If I didn't pay it I would be put in Jail.. Seems like it has something to do with jusice. Dunno really. I think i'm using the wrong word probably. LOL

I am not saying to take people out of low end jobs if that is what they want in life. As you said someone has to fill these positions. HOWEVER, your assumption that the government will pay for you to go to colege, if you are lowend? That is not as easy or true as you think.
The gavernment will offer you the pell grant, yes if you meet certain criteria. HOWEVER, this grant is a percentage based off of your income. And rarely is it enough to cover all expenses. So, if you are like me working a minimum wage job 4 days a week (normally three), you have absolutely NO money left over to go towards ANYTHING. Yet the pell grant does not usually cover everything eeded for school, because SO MANY people need it.


oh and you think managing someplace liuke ihop or Mcdonalds is low end? no it isnt. It isnt high, I agree there. but it is not low either. Management officials are not usually under poverty levels, whereas the general worker is.

I think it's interesting that you can never pin point who is responsible for bad rulings.. There are major flaws but because most child support cases have flaws it the norm?

what about insurence companies? that's a big beast that needs to be taken down a notch or two

Sorry, I misstated it.

Yes the court overseas the enforcement of it. But it is the child welfare acts and such that actually make up the laws and guidelines for child support.

Yeah.. Thats what I mean.. LOL wrong word..

Oh I agree with you completely on the insurance needing to be taken down. Even thuogh we may not agree on how to do it, lol. I personally feel we should go to a system like Canada or Germany have where there are no insurance providers, and medical is garunteed because you are a citizen. This does not mean you are garunteed a face lift at age 45, lol. That would come out of your own pocket. But basic health, like broken bones, the flu/colds, anything on a day to day basis needed would be covered.

lol yea any lower it would probably end up on COPS, I just have heard so many people pushing to get everyone through college. I think education is a great thing but I also think it starts way sooner than after high school.. our society has a variety of people.. some don't recieve education the whole time they go through elementary school, middle school or eventually drop out half way through high school.

would college really save some of these uneducated people?..then in turn is is safe to say they are forced to go into the military because they are not at that level

I love how scared everyone is for reformed health care.. I think we could learn a few things from our neighboring countries.. Didn'te to be that insurence was regulated some 10 years ago and suddenly someone got lax on that whole thing? I think insurence companies make a freakin butt load and should be held accountable for dropping soo many people during the hurricane katrina.. that was so rediculous and still no one is being prosecuted for wrongful doing!

No, I agree that we need to also revamp the eduction system as a whole and make sure our children are taught to their level of competency. BUT we need to make sure that level of comepetency is brought up , and not settle for the bare minimum also.
I personally believe in haveing an equivelancy exam at the end of EVERY grade, not just certain ones, to see if you have learned enough to go on to the next level. And I am sorry, but if you fail to make a certain level on this exam? You do not advance to the next grade the following year. And if this happens a second time? Your teacher(s) and parent(s) are investigated (although I hate that term, I do nto mean it to be as serious and forbidding as it sounds), to see why you are not learning enough. Hell, maybe even do this the first time you get held back.

I would like to see mandatory drug testing to get welfare, or any kind of public assistance. If the taxpayers with the jobs can pass a drug test to earn their money, so can the welfare recipients. And no, I am not against welfare or assistance when needed, the sysem just needs major revamping.

Yeah you pay in to the GI bill your first year of service. So why would I have to pay the money back after I served four years and payed in to the GI bill for my education?

I dont htin I understand what your saying here or asking. However as far as the gi bill goes, it would be a thing of the past. Right now, a majopr percentage of veterans who buy the gi bill (and yes you buy it on payments for one year) do not get to use the gi bill, because it is set up as a reimbursement program, not a paying program. You have to first be enrolled in college, with classes scheduled. Most colleges and universities you can not be enrolled and scheduled, unles syou have already paid for those classes first. Catch 32.
Hopefully this answeres what you were saying.

The majority of the people that join the enlisted part of the military are poor and really have no other option to get anywhere in life. Not to say all of them do. Thats why we also have a commissioned part of the military for people that go to school for foer years on the governments expense and have to serve four years in service after they graduate.

I've been going to school for the last 5 years to become and elementary teacher and have spent a lot of that time working in the classroom.. I have to tell you they are pushed to the limit with what they have to do.. I don't think a lot of people know what a teacher goes through not only day in and day out but through out the whole year.. they are regulated and the students are tested frequently. It's the funding. They have NONE.. I can't express to you how some of these teachers survive with only $100 (maybe) all year and that includes paper copies and some of your basic needs. AND that is only the schools I've worked in with decent budgets.

I don't agree with higher stress on the younger students. Play during the early years is so crucial to emotional and social development.. What we need are top teachers to create a new program, people who know these studetns and developmentally what is appropriate for them.

I think you will rarely find a "bad" teacher, it's mostly funding and not being able to do what they need to educate these students. Atleast in Washington state

I am prior service. Spent four years in the Army 82nd airbourne. It is not that hard to get money for school and other things aswell through the GI bill. I have been there and alot of my military friends have done the same.

okla sixpack- I agree fully

Talk about what needs to be changed how about government paid health care and college. You know what makes a country strong is its educated and healthy people.

hey owen.. out makin some new lady friends?

Some, I posted that then had a work related call so I was unable to look at it again.

good talk everyone- I'm out

peace and love and all that jazz