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| Topic: Why are women treated as some kind of tool | |
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Perhaps it goes back to the early days of civilization where the men were the hunter-gatherers and the women stayed at homecamp and took care of the children and comfort items. When farming was instituted, many women tended the farm while the men still hunted for meat. Slowly men began farming and tending the camp. Over time, the roles merged a lil every generation. Fast forward to present day. Old attitudes have given way to new individualism. Women tend to be more independent as persons, having equal rights in the free world. Over-all, women have healthier self-esteem than a few generations ago. TV, movies and even real-life women demonstrate abilities which meet or exceed their male counterparts. I think it has a lot to do with respect. Not only self-respect but the respect some men give their women. Some men have no issue with treating a woman as a person. Others still treat women as things or slaves. Personally, I don't need a care-taker. I'm quite capable of taking care of my own needs. I do the dishes when I choose to. My gf, will see the dishes and just do them. I always tell her she doesn't need to do my chores but she says she doesn't mind. To prevent this, I try to do my chose before she comes over so our time together is spent together. On the opposite end of the scale, when I was married...I worked and my X kept the house. This is because she didn't work, stayed home with the family. I worked long, strange hours and always felt tired. The only time I could really help out with the house is over weekends and most of that time was spend going out and doing things as a family. My X once told me she couldn't sleep if the house was not clean. She was compulsive about it. Frankly, what she called a dirty house was what I called lived in. But...things change in life. To me, the man/woman roles which used to be so important to me are now less important. I guess it comes from living alone for a long time. I tend to cherish together time more than chore duty. It seems to be working pretty good because my gf and I have a strong relationship. A relationship based on equality not master and slave. Tom, that makes sense. After all, we all have to survive. |
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I don't expect the woman to be anything other than what she is. In my house, everyone would be expected to do their part equally. i guess dudes who think the woman should do the house work by themselves are guys who probably don't hold on to a woman very long...and that just leaves more women for me...so thanks dudes! Appreciate that!
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Men are too
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Depends on where you live. In most western countries that type of thinking is old-fashioned. It's much more common nowadays for both partners to work and to share the chores at home. My ex wife was convinced, after getting married, the husband must provide for the family, and that the wife can stay at home. I think, it depends, on how you are brought up by your parents, and not where you live. Hey liverpool guy. I was on hiatus for a coupla years How r u?....Back to the point. I agree with the point that it depends on how you are brought up. All grand here 
My parents always told me, that a couple should share all family duties, though my ex wife was the complete opposite. One reason, that marriage went down the drain, I suppose. Mine wanted to work, so I let her. Then it became my money ran the house, her money was hers. I paid for her car, insurance, put gas in it, and I couldn't borrow it unless I had to get parts for mine. If hers broke, I had to fix it, and pay for parts. I'm glad mine circled the drain. |
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That is not a teaching from the Bible. That is not a teaching coming from any Christian church that I know of, and I have studied Christian churches for 40 years.
Citing non-Christian mythology that has never been a Church teaching is not a good way to approach the subject of this discussion thread. it is just what it is I'm me your u but if near In era that's how women and men were brought up every little girl is read and told she's a princess a prince will marry her and life is about getting that 2.5 kids and the white Pickett fence |
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because if not born in the old days when it was expected of a woman to be the stay home subservient and lived by the vows of marriage whether beat down or not u got what u got they had the fear of God in them to me and women then no choice better worse or yr chastised and no way good wife they are told these things it is inbred in the girls that was there purpose in life being a good little wife and pregnant all the time if not they were whores or a lousy wife frowned on her worth very little sex was only for babies if not yr a no good woman
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Women are expected to do all the household chores including taking care of the kids. But, men have expectations to fulfill too, like providing for the family, protecting them etc.
The key is to give and take, to be helpful with each other's responsibilities. Many women do enjoy being the stay at home, full time wife and mom. |
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LET ME CLEAR SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY. I AM NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT SEX.
What I really dont understand is why a woman is EXPECTED to do dishes, buy groceries, clean the house, and so on. I mean why the 'hard' things? It just interests me. you are right |
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Instead of asking why,
Why don't we Men do it for one day or a week an try.. maybe a true answer will be Find... Respect Women. Care & Love is only they need.
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I raised 2 kids alone, I have no problem with doing it
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Because they like to get drilled.
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LET ME CLEAR SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY. I AM NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT SEX. What I really dont understand is why a woman is EXPECTED to do dishes, buy groceries, clean the house, and so on. I mean why the 'hard' things? It just interests me. '' ITS HER HOUSE'' YOU TAKE CARE OF THE GARBAGE, THE LAWN, THE CAR , AND TAKE CARE OF HER EMOTIONAL NEEDS...THEN HE GET'S THE BEST DEAL ''THE COOKIE''... |
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Some people say that it's 2022 and women are this or that, equal or unequal. But since it's 2022 there is another way of looking at it, and that is maybe the woman isn't a woman at all and that's why said person is having trouble. Maybe should see a shrink and have that checked because evidently you can't go by the way the good Lord fashioned you to tell what you are any more.
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