Topic: Honesty matter?
ayyan 's photo
Thu 06/04/20 06:02 PM
Online can find true partner

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Thu 06/04/20 08:20 PM
Hello ayyan ....

Honesty online should matter but sadly not everyone is honest or values honesty . Be safe and enjoy the site waving

ayyan 's photo
Fri 06/05/20 09:39 AM
Thank u dear

JohnE's photo
Fri 06/05/20 10:43 AM
Yes. Less complications that way.

ReginaLinGa's photo
Sat 06/06/20 02:17 PM
Yes, honesty always matters. It's one of the most important things. Without honesty you can't build trust, and without trust you don't have anything. It's end game, before it begins.

mzrosie's photo
Sat 06/06/20 03:49 PM
Honesty online and on real life matters.
You see if you told the truth at the very start, you wouldn't have to remember the lies that you had said before. lol


LarchTree's photo
Sat 06/06/20 04:30 PM
Why would someone WANT to be fake? That would be so sad and stressful.

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Mon 06/15/20 04:05 PM
well said

mysticalview21's photo
Mon 06/15/20 04:29 PM

Honesty online and on real life matters.
You see if you told the truth at the very start, you wouldn't have to remember the lies that you had said before. lol


:heart: have heard that said very true flowerforyou

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Tue 06/16/20 07:15 AM
Honesty matter?

Depends on how you mean this.
Depends on practical use.

With online dating you don't really get any special brownie points for honesty.
Like "Oh, I'm not all that attracted or interested, but they were honest, so now I owe them a date and chance."

Some people also can't understand there's a huge middle ground between honesty and dishonesty. That there's not an inherent inverse proportional relationship between honesty and dishonesty.
Some things are private or none of someone's business.
Sometimes you can say "I'm not comfortable discussing that," and that will drive them away, or they just won't accept that so you offer a parsed, condensed, skipping important parts version because it's the first date and none of their business. Or you/they think that's going to happen so instead you, or they, will try to change the subject, or use humor as a distraction. That can be seen as an attempt to be dishonest.

And there's the problem with people conflating "honesty" with "truth."
So you get them saying something "bad," and then defending it with "just being honest."
Or they believe something to be true, but it isn't. They can still be honest, they just might wrong, it might be willful.

And there's the issue of intent and degree.
I mean there's a difference between you coming back from a physical where the doctor stood you barefoot against the wall noting you were 5ft 11 & 9/10th inches tall, then talking to a women on a dating site whose profile reads "must be at least 6 ft tall!" telling her that you're 6 ft tall, and dating a woman for a month telling her that you're actually married and have 4 kids and didn't tell her before because she didn't ask.

So asking "Honesty matter?" is vague.
Are you "really" asking:
- "Will/should honesty be rewarded?"

- "How should I judge profiles and people, what tolerance levels should I have? Should I call someone a dishonest person regardless of their pictures showing red hair but their profile says blonde? Or reads athletic body type but pictures show BBW/BHM? Or reserve judgment until I can determine that when they tell me they care about me I know they actually care? Information nugget at a time? Or broad picture?"

- "How honest should I be? How forthcoming or how much information about my life, my flaws, my problems, my personality, whatever, should I put in my profile/emails/discussions with people? To what degree exactly and specifically is it going to matter if I put my best foot forward in my profile and early interaction vs. just putting everything out there all at once?"

Honesty matter? Online can find true partner

Or is this just an English as a secondary language thing and what you're really asking is "I'm not like the other guys. I'm looking for a real relationship, not just sex, honestly, no one's responding to my emails, I'll just billboard onto the forums and hope one of the (I think look at these) millions emails me. Could someone email me?"

Why would someone WANT to be fake?

No one wants to be fake.
They want an alternative something to be true.
Look at the advice for people lacking confidence or social skills or getting over a heart break.
A vast majority of the advice for those people amounts to "just fake it until you make it!"


Tom4Uhere's photo
Tue 06/16/20 09:09 AM
People don't generally like it when I am honest.
They want me to be tactful and respectful towards them.
They don't want to know every detail about my life, they want to know the details they expect which affects them the most.

I grew up on a farm in rural United States. Much of my youth was spent isolated with a few close friends.
As a young adult, I was the wide-eyed call it like it is type of person.
My college friend told me to squint and use tact when dealing with others and interaction got a bit easier.

As I got older I refined my tact and gained the ability to fairly accurately predict others expectations. I aligned with more people and refined my leadership skills which made me an effective manager.

Now, having lived that precarious battle of honesty with others and facing my own mortality I have reverted back to the honesty and knowing eyes.
I no longer care what others think of me and no longer put tact above honesty.
Sure, I still try to be tactful when I have to but its no longer that important to me.

I find most people shallow, stingy, rude, self-centered and delusional.
I must curb my honesty to fit in with social etiquette.
Honesty is a first person value.
To thine own self be true.
I have inner contentment because I have removed my delusions about reality.
I have looked, sorted and accepted myself as I am.
I am honest because I know who and what I am, with no need to lie about it to myself or anyone else.

The GF I have now adores me.
We met on this site from my current profile (I haven't changed it).
She told me (after we got to know each other personally) my profile is very accurate.
It doesn't tell everything about me but it tells enough, accurately, to start a relationship.
You can't build a good relationship based on lies.