Topic: If we had all the answers would the word mystery not exist?
Luke's photo
Mon 04/13/20 10:27 PM
I believe that in creation we are meant to learn from our mistakes and build on them. Sometimes we don’t know the right way to do something until we have made the mistake which brought us to understand why. Maybe some questions are not meant to be answered. Maybe some answers simply need to be created. If you truly believe anything is possible, through God it can be created at our own hands. Especially at this time of great need, I pray for healing on those suffering from this current pandemic we are experiencing and in the future as well. Amen.

darkowl1's photo
Mon 04/13/20 11:12 PM
Edited by darkowl1 on Mon 04/13/20 11:14 PM
You had most of the answers.... They were in the Alexandria library. But it was sacked and burned because it contained things that didn't agree with Roman/Christian beliefs. Funny that they say it was "accidental". They burned the harbor, and most of the city!

More was lost in that single night than in the last 6,000 years of knowledge, from Stonehenge, to the secrets of the Pyramids from all over the world, Atlantis, neolithic sites worldwide, Animals, and all of it was common knowledge then.... gone.

I'm still really pissed about that one.mad

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Mon 04/13/20 11:33 PM
Edited by Tom4Uhere on Mon 04/13/20 11:34 PM
If you had all the answers you would be a god.
It would mean you know everything about everything, everywhere, everywhen.
If that were the case, chaos would not exist because you would be able to understand the patterns hidden in chaos.

No mystery is an understatement.

If you had all the answers you would understand everything.
You would understand all forms of cause and effect.
You could not only exist without ignorance you could predict future events precisely because you understand cause and effect.
You could step out of universal entropy. You would live forever.
You would have the knowledge of the Universe.
Not only the species that populate it but of the forces which exist in it as well.
You would understand every animal and plant and bacteria, including alien lifeforms.
Such an understanding would allow you to manipulate space and time.

Luke's photo
Tue 04/14/20 01:08 AM
Constantine also burned most scripture written by Jesus himself and arranged many books in the Bible to his own liking.. you speak as if I agree with the burning of this library you speak of and are generalizing by using the word Christian or Roman.. to be honest I am 420 friendly and am not your ordinary type of believer. But if it makes you feel better, go ahead and vent about how much you hate being told what to do by people who live unsaintly lives as I might agree with you somewhere along the line..but please don’t let your generalization take away from the individuality of people like Mother Theresa, Ghandi, Pope Pius II and his efforts to expose the truth of Gestapo arresting Jews in Italy and abroad (which is just coming out 80 years later) or if you really wanna go way back how about Joan of Arc? It is true the Church is in need of something new (which is part of this ongoing argument I have within my faith)and vibrant although there is a lot of good in it to. You won’t hear about it though because typically they won’t be the type to brag about it. As a matter of fact.. no charitable organization in the U.S. feeds, houses, or even visits people in jail more than the Catholic Church if I am not mistaken. Knowledge is a valuable thing I completely agree. I believe it is also a blessing and a responsibility to do what is right with it.

Luke's photo
Tue 04/14/20 01:55 AM
So, If you had all the answers the word mystery would not exist/no longer exist right? Unless some type of investigation/research had to be done to get those answers. Hence our present REALITY. There would be no need to learn anything. Or to grow from being a toddler and learn how to walk. Quite the experience for loving parents who want to see their children thrive. Like those moments when you feel totally accomplished when you achieve a long-term goal you’ve been working on, those moments would not exist. If you had everything already, nothing would be earned it would be handed to you, because no man in his single lifetime would have the mental capacity to attain and act on all of these findings. Never-mind a long enough life-span in order to have time to do so. If we had all of the answers (considering what we already know and understand as real) chaos would exist especially if the understanding of it was already present in you mind. For chaos to not exist, it would mean it would never have happened, and there would be no need to understand something that Never existed. If you meant chaos would cease to exist that’s a different story. Having all of the answers doesn’t necessarily imply you won’t make mistakes or that you might be perfect in having this ability because at the end of the day we’re still human. As humans we rely on each other to get **** done. When you’re the MVP on a squad which might have a losing record, does that make you the league MVP or just the team MVP?

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Tue 04/14/20 08:45 AM
Unless some type of investigation/research had to be done to get those answers.

You are twisting your own rule.
You already know all the answers so why would you need investigation or research.

There would be no need to learn anything.

This is implied with your OT.

learn how to walk

Again, you know everything so you already know how to walk.

Like those moments when you feel totally accomplished when you achieve a long-term goal you’ve been working on, those moments would not exist.

Only if your understanding of everything surpasses selfish pride. However, understanding everything would also cause you to understand self-esteem.
So, those moments would exist, just not for you.

For chaos to not exist, it would mean it would never have happened, and there would be no need to understand something that Never existed.

Understanding what never existed/what cannot exist defines the significance of what does exist/always existed.
If everything that happens has a pattern, it can be predicted so chaos would no longer exist, for you.
The only reason why chaos exists to us is because we can't understand the complex patterns of nature completely. Chaos is random interaction over time.
If everything is known everywhere, everywhen, there is no random, thus...no chaos.

Understanding everything might include understanding chaos never existed and it was lack of understanding which causes other beings to invent chaos to explain the things in nature they do not understand.

In other words...The Universe is finitely complex. Everything has a pattern always. Cause and effect is predictable if you understand the pattern.

A simple example is billiards (pool). You play pool by understanding cause and effect. The pattern of striking one object into another resulting in a predetermined path. "Eight ball in the corner pocket"
The better you understand the interactions of playing pool, the better you are at predicting what will happen when that interaction takes place.
For most people, the 'break' is chaotic yet for a pool shark, the break is predictable and can be mastered.

Skill is based on understanding. When you are skilled at something you understand it so well the chaotic element is removed.

Talent is the reflexive understanding of something.
A talented musician understands what to do to make their instrument produce the sounds they desire.

Someone sitting at a piano banging keys produce a chaotic noise which may or may not have musical tones within it.
However, someone who understands the piano and is skilled can use the same device to play symphonies of tone which cause emotion.

The key to chaos is pattern recognition and once you understand all possible and impossible patterns you will find chaos never existed at all.


Ladywind7's photo
Tue 04/14/20 11:45 AM

If you truly believe anything is possible, through God it can be created at our own hands.


Welcome. What do you mean by this statement please? :smiley:

msharmony's photo
Tue 04/14/20 12:10 PM

I believe that in creation we are meant to learn from our mistakes and build on them. Sometimes we don’t know the right way to do something until we have made the mistake which brought us to understand why. Maybe some questions are not meant to be answered. Maybe some answers simply need to be created. If you truly believe anything is possible, through God it can be created at our own hands. Especially at this time of great need, I pray for healing on those suffering from this current pandemic we are experiencing and in the future as well. Amen.


Amen. When we can no longer learn anything, we are no longer really 'living'. Life is about a learning journey.