Is societies ways/beliefs do you believe are for the better or for the worst when your grandparents raised thier children?

Why do you believe it is?

Blessings of Shalom....Miles

I think it depends on the person. I just recently became a grandmother,her mom is 15, so they liv eat home with me. I honestly look forward to not makeing the mistakes with her that I did my kids. I have learned alot in the last 16 yrs. LOL

I believe we all hope that. We learn from our mistakes. It's what we do after realizing them that matters. I am sure you will be a wonderfull grandparent.. Blessings..Miles

I'm not sure what you are asking miles?

WOW!, just this minute I completed a reply to a thread called 'Somebody is raising their kid right'. It said a lot about my great-grand & grand parents time. I won't bother to post the whole thing here.

My opinion is based on the experiences of my life. These experiences are not just the events in my life, but where these events to place. In other words the culture of my surroundings.

My son and I, a few years ago, together viewed a documentary concerning the rise above oppression, by Black Americans, between the 1950's and I believe the mid 80's. My son was born in 1984. I was often surprised at his comments during the show and at the end of the presentation we began to talk.

He honestly could not comprehend that I had grown up in that era. So vast is the difference between then and now, that my son could not relate to in at all, not even through me.

WE ARE far and away a much better community. This was not my Great-grandparents doing, not even my grand-parents, they were all bigoted and frightned. It was my parents generation, the Kennedy generation that pushed for this change in ethics. It was the baby-boomers who made it reflect in the morals of society.

We are a better community, but we have a long way to go.

My own question HERE would be, from what sector of society is the greatest prejudice being reflected from? What groups are being oppressed and who is doing the opressing?

We need to change it. It will not be changed if we wait for the 'morals' of 'believers' to change, it must be changed from the ethical perspective of people who value peace and the common advancement of humanity as a community.

Differentkindofwench

Red says alot about what i mean. Is the generation we are in better or worse or indifference than when our grandparents were alive. Like I never knew my grandpa he died 3 years before I was born in 1960. I wonder what his eyes would see.But i am looking through our eyes. have we become closer or father away from a society that we would or want our children to live in. What would you do or not do to change our ways of living..Shalom..Miles

I was born in 1949, the same year the Transistor was invented.

As a very young child we had a black & white TV and Elvis Presley was just making his debut. I remember living through the 50’s as a tot looking at everyone’s shoes. The girls wore those two-tone back and white sneakers and bobby socks. The guys all wore sun glasses and tried to act like Elvis. There was a lot of gossip about how Mr. Presley’s “Rock-n-Roll” couldn’t be too healthy for the spiritually minded person.

In hindsight, I don’t think rock-n-roll turned out to be a bad thing all. I’ve listened to rock-n-roll my entire life and it didn’t make me become an evil person.

I spent my teenage years rambling through the 1960’s. They were mixed times. In the 1960 President John F. Kennedy (JFK) launched the Vietnam war (or at least officially intensified it). This war continued all through the 60’s. So it was always in the background, and often times in the forefront.

JFK also made a pledge to put a man on the moon. So even though the Vietnam War was raging in the background, there was much focus on science. I was naturally interested in science from a very early age, but the promise of going to the moon and possibly even more space-age ventures was quite intriguing. I was very studious and dove into science like a great white shark diving into a pool of seals.

The rock-n-roll controversy was still fresh, and the Beetles wanted to “Hold Her Hand”.

1963 JFK is shot in the head. The President of the United States of American is Dead!

I remember sitting in an English class at the time I heard the news. I also recall my English teacher. She was an extremely obese woman who was more interested in teaching us morals than English. She used to really chew into any student who said the word “guy”. She thought that was the most despicable term. But referring to everyone as “guy” was quite popular. Hey! Whacha up ta guys?

She HATED that term and said that this kind of language would be the ruin of our culture.

With JFK out of the picture (a really confident leader with lot of charisma I might add) President Johnson took over. President Johnson talked real slow with a southern drawl. He also pronounced everything as though it started with an “H”. And his hair was cut to reveal his over-sized ears. As kids we used to make fun of him saying “President Johnson has the biggest ears in the WHole WHide WHorld” And we’d say it with a slow southern drawl.

Once Johnson become president support for the war in nam dwindled quickly. He was accused of not knowing what he was doing and many war protests began. This was really the beginning of the “60’s era” as we call it today.

Fortunately Johnson stuck with the space program and we did land a man on the moon in 1969. I remember watching the entire thing on TV. And then going outside and starting at the moon for hours at a time.

The 1970’s, brought even more of the “60’s” style protests, the war continued on. Marijuana become common place. So common it was almost impossible to go out without someone offering you a joint. You could by an ounce of grass for $15 and it was POTENT stuff, nothing to sneeze at. Drugies today would love to buy an ounce of grass for $15.

I actually put of smoking grass for a very long time. I would refuse it saying that I don’t need drugs to enhance my life, which was true. Ironically, I got a job as a police officer and discovered that even the cops were smoking it whilst on duty!!! At that point I just threw my hands in the air and said, “Alright, pass it over here”.

The 70’s also brought most of the drug related music and anti-establishment music, especially the anti-war music. Helen Redding broke her famous single “I am woman, hear me ROAR!” and women were burning their bras and carrying signs, “Make Love Not War”. I think there was a lot of confusion between women’s rights a desire to have sex in those days.

In the 1980’s things slowly wound down. But the 1990’s things were getting back to the more fundamentalist way of thinking again. I think that’s probably where we are today.

A lot of good stuff come out of the so-called 60’s though. Even though there was a lot of drugs and rebellion against establishment, I think it also served to wake people up to the value of thinking freely. I would hate to see us go back to the before the 60’s.

Finally, just as a reminder, for those who think that we are in anyway heading downhill morally, you should only need to look over history a little bit closer. It’s always an undulation. Never still.

Just look at the Roaring 20’s!!! Are we better off or worse off than those days????

In those days gangsters ruled the streets with machine guns!!! Law and order was hard to come by. Alcohol and cocaine and heroin were commonplace, but the heroin was kept more quiet. (It never happens to our family - that kind of thing!).

Those days were really crude and the electric chair was the star of the show!!!

So if you’re going to ask if the human race, in-general, is in decline PLEASE compare with ALL OF HISTORY, not just our own close yesterdays. Overall I’d say we’re doing pretty darn good!

I mean its easy to point out the two world wars that killed so many My grandfather fought in WWI and my father In WWII. Very young men going of to war. They both were alcoholics for most of their lives. In this day and age we can treat stuff like Post traumatic stress, or even look at alcoholism with a more realistic light.
My father also went through the depression and it is family folk lore that he never had his first cookie till he was 12.

RAbbit, I cracked up at your 'cookie' story. My dad was a storyteller. He used to tell us about walking to school, three miles away, in snow knee deep with holes in his shoes and then he'd add - UPHILL. Then one day a new story, and it ended with a bad snow storm and how he had to walk HOME in that snow with holes in his shoes and he added UPHILL.

Having heard the first story for so long, my mom, brother and I, BURST out lauging so hard and the look on my dad's face when he 'finally' realized what we were laughing at made us laugh all the more. We never did fininsh the meal, we all talked and laughed for at least two hours.

ODDLY - as an adult, I have heard so many people talk about the stories their parents told them and how they had to walk (someplace) and back home again all UPHILL.

most things have improved. some things have gotten worse.